Why is China behaving like a bully?

[rcrmj]

China’s aggression is the cause of all of this.

it takes two parties to cause a disput you clueless servant

 

[djsjs]

By the way, I'm pretty disappointed with the level of discourse from Vietnamese and Filipino members here. So far, I see scant evidence of deep thought or even a hint of consciousness from the posts. Is there nothing more you can offer other than China bad, China aggressive, SCS is ours etc?

If this is the way the Vietnamese and the Filipinos think, then I fear for the future of those countries.

Debate isn't about who shouts the loudest nor who can spout the most slogans. It's about airing out and discussing differences of opinion and basing your opinions from fact.

they never consider the future of their country，nor give a posible solution to the disputes.
barking seems the only what they could do ,which gives no help to any side indeed.
i wish there are some vietnams or Filipino who had seriously look ahead at their country of 2020 or 2030.

 

[rcrmj]

I don´t want to become a slave to the Chinese. Pls feel free to do so on your own. Honestly I don´t need your advice.

ok ok we get it``you wanna be slave to a new master the U.S, let them flock you as much as you guys please

 

[Rechoice]

By the way, I'm pretty disappointed with the level of discourse from Vietnamese and Filipino members here. So far, I see scant evidence of deep thought or even a hint of consciousness from the posts. Is there nothing more you can offer other than China bad, China aggressive, SCS is ours etc?

If this is the way the Vietnamese and the Filipinos think, then I fear for the future of those countries.

Debate isn't about who shouts the loudest nor who can spout the most slogans. It's about airing out and discussing differences of opinion and basing your opinions from fact.

When you look at nine-dash map and read all posts of chinese netizens here on PDF
, if you should be educated guy, no brainwashed victim of extreme nationalism you can understand that claim of china is baseless, when China signed in to UNCLOS. When talking about the history evidents we have strong evidents approved that Island belong to Vietnam.

For Vietnam, they need to study the facts of their country from our history record, how can you require them to offer you some useful info?
For Philoys, they dont have their written history records, where can the facts come?

History records in China recognized that in Man Quing Dynasty Islands no part of China.These old Chinese maps from Chinese historical sources (from 1561 until 1909) indicate that the southernmost border of China ends with Hainan Island. No where does it indicate that the archipelagos of Paracel and Spratly were a part of China. This is in contrast to the ancient maps of Vietnam, which all depicted clearly that these two archipelagos were part of Vietnam.

here is map of Vietnam.

 

[NiceGuy]

By the way, I'm pretty disappointed with the level of discourse from Vietnamese and Filipino members here. So far, I see scant evidence of deep thought or even a hint of consciousness from the posts. Is there nothing more you can offer other than China bad, China aggressive, SCS is ours etc?

If this is the way the Vietnamese and the Filipinos think, then I fear for the future of those countries.

Debate isn't about who shouts the loudest nor who can spout the most slogans. It's about airing out and discussing differences of opinion and basing your opinions from fact.

Go to international court of justice and discourse, dare you ?? it seems like Chinese only dare to use 50cent warriors hiding behind the computer monitor and brag

 

[Viet]

By the way, I'm pretty disappointed with the level of discourse from Vietnamese and Filipino members here. So far, I see scant evidence of deep thought or even a hint of consciousness from the posts. Is there nothing more you can offer other than China bad, China aggressive, SCS is ours etc?

If this is the way the Vietnamese and the Filipinos think, then I fear for the future of those countries.

Debate isn't about who shouts the loudest nor who can spout the most slogans. It's about airing out and discussing differences of opinion and basing your opinions from fact.

I really don´t care what you think or feel!

You are disqualified with just your few posts. It is ridiculous to say Vietnam should do this, Philippines should avoid this. China and the Chinese are NOT in the position to tell us what we have to do. Sure, we (Vietnam) all wish a good relationship with China despite painful history, but unlike the former foes France/Japan/America you continue a policy of intimidation.

I can advice you read more international media, and not only Chinese propaganda news. If you haven´t noticed China does very little to help Vietnam to become a modern country, the main force behind Vietnam economic recovery is Japan.

 

[eddieInUK]

I really don´t care what you think or feel!

You are disqualified with just your few posts. It is ridiculous to say Vietnam should do this, Philippines should avoid this. China and the Chinese are NOT in the position to tell us what we have to do. Sure, we (Vietnam) all wish a good relationship with China despite painful history, but unlike the former foes France/Japan/America you continue a policy of intimidation.
I can advice you read more international media, and not only Chinese propaganda news. If you haven´t noticed China does very little to help Vietnam to become a modern country, the main force behind Vietnam economic recovery is Japan.

All right. Do whatever you want and read your history. Mr. Ho-chi-minh will be totally pissed off by you.

 

[Viet]

For Vietnam, they need to study the facts of their country from our history record, how can you require them to offer you some useful info?
For Philoys, they dont have their written history records, where can the facts come?

Sure, we (Vietnam) can remember the history, can´t you?

Let me take one part out of our common history China-Vietnam and go to the year of November 1788, when the Chinese Emperor Qianlong (Qing) sent a massive army to invade Vietnam. The Chinese expeditionary force was commanded by Sun Shi-yi and assisted by General Xu Shi-heng. The Vietnamese General Nguyễn Huệ formed an army and expelled the Qing´s invasion in January 1789 (known as The First Tet Offensive of 1789).

Nguyễn Huệ (1753-1792), also known as Emperor Quang Trung

History reports General Nguyễn Huệ declared in front of his soldiers (100,000 men) before opening the battle:
"
The Qing have invaded our country…

In the universe each earth, each star has its particular place; the North [China] and the South [Vietnam] each have their own government. The men of the North are not of our race, they will not think our way or be nice to us. Since the Han dynasty, they have invaded us many times, massacring and pillaging our people. We could not stand that. Today, the Qing have invaded us again hoping to reestablish Chinese prefectures, forgetting what happened to the Song, to the Yuan, and to the Ming.

That is why we must raise an army to chase them out. You, men of conscience and courage, join us in this great enterprise."

After the war Nguyễn Huệ sent a peace envoy to the Emperor Qianlong (Qing) in a move to restore the relationship.

Victory banquet of the emperor Qianlong to greet Nguyen Quang-Hien, the envoy of Nguyen Hue in Beijing

 

[eddieInUK]

Sure, we (Vietnam) can remember the history, can´t you?
Victory banquet of the emperor Qianlong to greet Nguyen Quang-Hien, the envoy of Nguyen Hue in Beijing

But the modern (red) vietnam do start from China, right ? Ho-chi-minh start his revolution in China and make Vietnam independent.

 

[Rechoice]

But the modern (red) vietnam do start from China, right ? Ho-chi-minh start his revolution in China and make Vietnam independent.

He started from Saigon port, Joined to Communists in Paris - France. He turned home from Paris to Moscow, through China and Thailand and came home 1941.
Ho Chi Minh has a famous announcement in Conference of France Communist Party in Paris 1921: " I don't care about second or 3rd Communal, I follow what kind of Communal which support Vietnam to be independence State. "

 

[ChinaToday]

By the way, I'm pretty disappointed with the level of discourse from Vietnamese and Filipino members here. So far, I see scant evidence of deep thought or even a hint of consciousness from the posts. Is there nothing more you can offer other than China bad, China aggressive, SCS is ours etc?

If this is the way the Vietnamese and the Filipinos think, then I fear for the future of those countries.

Debate isn't about who shouts the loudest nor who can spout the most slogans. It's about airing out and discussing differences of opinion and basing your opinions from fact.

dont be surprised buddy when you talk to people from backward country this bound to happen, debate with them with logic is just a complete waste of time

 

[ChinaToday]

I really don´t care what you think or feel!

You are disqualified with just your few posts. It is ridiculous to say Vietnam should do this, Philippines should avoid this. China and the Chinese are NOT in the position to tell us what we have to do. Sure, we (Vietnam) all wish a good relationship with China despite painful history, but unlike the former foes France/Japan/America you continue a policy of intimidation.

I can advice you read more international media, and not only Chinese propaganda news. If you haven´t noticed China does very little to help Vietnam to become a modern country, the main force behind Vietnam economic recovery is Japan.

we dont talk much of your country in our media , all the info we got about your country is from western media

 

[EastSea]

we dont talk much of your country in our media , all the info we got about your country is from western media

also it's, I understand, you are educated by western media.

 

[djsjs]

also it's, I understand, you are educated by western media.

really ?aren't we educated by the CCP?Paradoxical！！！！！

 

[eddieInUK]

He started from Saigon port, Joined to Communists in Paris - France. He turned home from Paris to Moscow, through China and Thailand and came home 1941.
Ho Chi Minh has a famous announcement in Conference of France Communist Party in Paris 1921: " I don't care about second or 3rd Communal, I follow what kind of Communal which support Vietnam to be independence State. "

I know he is a very close friend to Mao and he can speak perfect Chinese and Cantonese. And chi minh is a common Chinese name. When he is dead, Chinese doctor send by Mao is around him. Thats all I know, China and Viet broke up since China Soviet broke up.