PML-N Political Desk

[Bratva]

Bhyee ab Jahangir tareen aur IK key returns kahan se file hongay
Punjab main to lag gaya agriculture tax ab next year in sab key returns KPK se file hongay jahan koe tax nahi hay agriculture par

Sir Jee,,, Tax lagna aur Tax Ada karna do different things hain, Let's see IK aur Jahangir Tareen kay returns ki tarha Agri Tax kitna collect hota hai

 

[SBD-3]

Sir Jee,,, Tax lagna aur Tax Ada karna do different things hain, Let's see IK aur Jahangir Tareen kay returns ki tarha Agri Tax kitna collect hota hai

Main nay to kafi logon key returns dekhay huay hain issi liya baat kar raha hoon

 

[Bratva]

Main nay to kafi logon key returns dekhay huay hain issi liya baat kar raha hoon

Nawaz Sharif kai returns dekhain ya phir nazray churaa li thee un say

 

[SBD-3]

Nawaz Sharif kai returns dekhain ya phir nazray churaa li thee un say

Nawaz sharif's tax rate (~10%) is higher than both IK (~7%) and Jahangir Tareen (~3%)

 

[Bratva]

Nawaz sharif's tax rate (~10%) is higher than both IK (~7%) and Jahangir Tareen (~3%)

I don't like Jahangeer Tareen personally but he is a necessary evil, A evil who is hideous and keeps a low media profile

I can understand IK Tax returns, he is not an industrialist like Nawaz Sharif.

I wish good luck to Nawaz sharif in paying off his loan to london flat

 

[Jazzbot]

you said we are not taxing the rich, I said we are taxing 35 %. You said they are not elite. I said earning 7 mil doesn't make one elite ??? Your answer now ???
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O bhai apni baat hi karte jaa rhay ho meri baat samajh nai aa rhi? Urdu main smjhaooon??? All you are saying is, 35% tax on people with 7 mil plus annual income.. This means a person with about 58,000 monthly salary, how is he elite class person?? He's a simple salaried person with upper middle class. There are people who are earning millions monthly with no declared income and assets, what this govt is going to do to bring them in tax net, make them declare their assets and collect tax from that class? Nothing?? Pehle ye pta karo ke Elite class hy kon? 50 - 60 thousand monthly earn karne wala Elite class main kab se ban gya, Noora logic??

and reduce the allowances and close the door for poor ppl to become MNA 4ever OH Well

What idiocy? Do you justify 80,000+ salary for all MNAs who are mostly landlords, feudal, industrialists and business class people who come to NA in land cruisers, Mercedes and BMWs.. C'mon why paying them so many allowances etc when their daily expenditure is more than their monthly salary.. And it was you and your leadership who created hype about Simplicity and reducing expanses, so ask your dump leadership to introduce a mechanism to accommodate lower and middle class MNAs and strip allowances of rich MNAs to save national funds.. Or else stop doing these hypocrisy..

 

[SBD-3]

O bhai apni baat hi karte jaa rhay ho meri baat samajh nai aa rhi? Urdu main smjhaooon??? All you are saying is, 35% tax on people with 7 mil plus annual income.. This means a person with about 58,000 monthly salary, how is he elite class person?? He's a simple salaried person with upper middle class. There are people who are earning millions monthly with no declared income and assets, what this govt is going to do to bring them in tax net, make them declare their assets and collect tax from that class? Nothing?? Pehle ye pta karo ke Elite class hy kon? 50 - 60 thousand monthly earn karne wala Elite class main kab se ban gya, Noora logic??

????????????? devide 7,000,000 by 12. Seriously? that translates into 583,000 a month not 58,000. Gosh you guys can't even do basic math properly.

 

[Jazzbot]

????????????? devide 7,000,000 by 12. Seriously? that translates into 583,000 a month not 58,000. Gosh you guys can't even do basic math properly.

My bad, I'm in office and was interrupted like 3 times during that post..

My original Post:

O bhai apni baat hi karte jaa rhay ho meri baat samajh nai aa rhi? Urdu main smjhaooon??? All you are saying is, 35% tax on people with 7 mil plus annual income.. This means a person with about 58,000 monthly salary, how is he elite class person?? He's a simple salaried person with upper middle class. There are people who are earning millions monthly with no declared income and assets, what this govt is going to do to bring them in tax net, make them declare their assets and collect tax from that class? Nothing?? Pehle ye pta karo ke Elite class hy kon? 50 - 60 thousand monthly earn karne wala Elite class main kab se ban gya, Noora logic??


Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/nation...21-pml-n-political-desk-52.html#ixzz2WXo9ICho

But you however actually got the idea about what I've asked there, didn't you? And you, like @Tiger Awan have deliberately ignored the actual question..

The question stands there.. What planning has been done to make people declare their actual income and source of income to bring them in tax net and collect tax form them.. The question in Pakistan isn't about imposing tax its about how to collect it and from whom to collect.. There is no mechanism to identify black incomes like foreign remittances, flawed banking systems, most salaries don't come via bank transactions etc and when you have these kind of flaws, most of the people's income go un-noticed. You cannot simply collect tax unless and until you identify a person's true income..

Also Punjab Govt has declared increased Development, Non-Development etc budgets, all this will eventually depend at collection of taxes. If above issues won't be fixed, the targets about tax won't be achieved, and thus we'll have fiscal deficit and will have to take loans to complete these projects. So everything is actually directly linked with tax collection.

 

[SBD-3]

My bad, I'm in office and was interrupted like 3 times during that post..

My original Post:



But you however actually got the idea about what I've asked there, didn't you? And you, like @Tiger Awan have deliberately ignored the actual question..

The question stands there.. What planning has been done to make people declare their actual income and source of income to bring them in tax net and collect tax form them.. The question in Pakistan isn't about imposing tax its about how to collect it and from whom to collect.. There is no mechanism to identify black incomes like foreign remittances, flawed banking systems, most salaries don't come via bank transactions etc and when you have these kind of flaws, most of the people's income go un-noticed. You cannot simply collect tax unless and until you identify a person's true income..

Also Punjab Govt has declared increased Development, Non-Development etc budgets, all this will eventually depend at collection of taxes. If above issues won't be fixed, the targets about tax won't be achieved, and thus we'll have fiscal deficit and will have to take loans to complete these projects. So everything is actually directly linked with tax collection.

Detailed answers
http://www.defence.pk/forums/national-political-issues/200546-political-columns-10.html#post4417900
http://www.defence.pk/forums/econom...ear-2013-2014-discussions-13.html#post4402744

 

[Jazzbot]

25 years of so called good governance in Punjab, and this is situation in heart of Punjab, Lahore and then heart of Lahore, Model Town..

@Leader @nuclearpak @mafiya

Detailed answers
http://www.defence.pk/forums/national-political-issues/200546-political-columns-10.html#post4417900
http://www.defence.pk/forums/econom...ear-2013-2014-discussions-13.html#post4402744

Thanks, will go through it and see if I can find my answers..

 

[Jango]

25 years of so called good governance in Punjab, and this is situation in heart of Punjab, Lahore and then heart of Lahore, Model Town..

Will be going to Lahore next week...let's see!!!

If this was the construction quality, then it would have been better if these things weren't done. When you create something in 6 months, yeh to hona hi hai.

Let's see about the quality of Rawalpindi flyover.

 

[SBD-3]

Punjab Government shows the Guts to tax real estate mafia, agriculture and Big families. Where as Naya KPK resorts to easy money through taxing Afghan Transit Trade.

 

[Jazzbot]

Will be going to Lahore next week...let's see!!!

If this was the construction quality, then it would have been better if these things weren't done. When you create something in 6 months, yeh to hona hi hai.

Let's see about the quality of Rawalpindi flyover.

Guess what, Model Town Lahore is considered backyard of Nawaz Sharif because of his residency in Model Town, if this is the situation in Model Town then God knows what's next to come in other places.. Today going to office, I preferred to avoid going from Kalma Chowk flyover and used alternative route..

 

[Jango]

Punjab Government shows the Guts to tax real estate mafia, agriculture and Big families. Where as Naya KPK resorts to easy money through taxing Afghan Transit Trade.

Where in the link does it say that real estate has been taxed?

And it also says that buying of cars has been prohibited, but what about the cars that were bought right after the elections by Punjab Government? They were around 400 if I am not wrong.

 

[SBD-3]

Where in the link does it say that real estate has been taxed?
And it also says that buying of cars has been prohibited, but what about the cars that were bought right after the elections by Punjab Government? They were around 400 if I am not wrong.