$255M for Akash SAMs: Armenia Signs Another Arms Deal with India

[NG Missile Vessels]

At the end of the day you have an italian designed aircraft carrier that took several decades to come to fruition.

Indian industries contribution to INS Vikrant:
1. Combat Management System: Tata Advanced System
2. Electronics Warfare Suite 'Shakti' : Bharat Electronics Limited
3. Ships Data Network: Bharat Electronics Limited
4. Power Distribution System: L&T
5. Integrated Platform Management System: Bharat Heavy Electricals Limited
6. AK 630 CIWS: M/s Gun and Shell Factory, Cossipore
7. Stabilized Optronics Pedestral: BEL, Chennai
8. Integrated Bridge System: Navicom , Mumbai
9. Ship Weapon Interlock Safety System: M/s BAeHAL, Bengaluru
10. Kavach Mod II: Machine Tool Prototype Factory, Ambarnath
11. EM Log/Echosounder: KELTRON, Trivandrum
12. Air Conditioning and Refrigeration Plants: Kirloskar, Pune
13. Steering Gear: L&T Defence, Mumbai
14. Centrifuges: Alfa Laval, Pune
15. RO Plant: Rochem, Mumbai
16. Diesel Alternator: Wartsila, Mumbai
17. Gearbox: Elecon Engineering
18. High Pressure and Low Pressure Compressors: LG India
19. Anchor Capstan: Geetha Engineering, Mumbai
20. Hatches and Doors: Godrej, Mumbai
21. Impressed Current Cathodic Protection: Sargam Metals, Chennai
22. Laundry and Galley: Sushma Marine, Mumbai
23. RHIB and LCVP Davits: SHM Shipcare, Mumbai
24. Sanitation System : Vacman Sanitation Solutions, Mumbai
25. SRGM: Haridwar unit of BHEL

The dream of having an indigenous aircraft carrier would not have materialised had it not been for a little-known steel factory in Odisha. The first good news in India’s two-decade-long quest to construct an aircraft carrier came from the Steel Authority of India (SAIL) factory in Rourkela which delivered a special quality military-grade steel — DMR-249A — for building Vikrant.
In the late 1990s, the Indian Navy acquired a Russian formula on military-grade steel, but had no idea about the process and chemistry. The Naval Material Research Laboratory and Heavy Engineering Corporation first gave it a go, but failed.
The Defence Metallurgical Research Laboratory and SAIL picked up the baton and, after a few years of trial and error, delivered top-quality steel to the shipyard, saving the country hundreds of crores.
The experience helped Indian steel factories manufacture such steel for indigenous construction of every warship and submarine. A second special type (DMR249z25) was created for Vikrant’s machine and engine rooms so that the chambers are protected from a torpedo hit. The DMR249 steels are one of the military items that India wants to export, thanks to Project IAC or Indigenous Aircraft Carrier, now known as Vikrant. This is not an isolated example.
Several other Vikrant technologies such as the explosion-proof automatic energy lamp and transparent RF shielding now find applications outside the military

I can safely bet that in all likelyhood we will see a TFX flight before the AMCA, despite all this nonsense about "fighter jets since 1960(lol HAL Marut).

No, they can't do that because majority of the prototypes were rolled out without critical sensors and working engine. They're yet to complete the CDR

 

[NG Missile Vessels]

The comparison in the percentage of arms that are imported vs domestically built between Turkey and India is proof enough for the difference in the military industrial complex

DRDO developed shipborne AESA radar on INS Anvesh and Dhruv

https://twitter.com/x/status/1654053833591640064

 

[Kaniska]

These indians are funny. all the drones pictures he posted from his "mighty" defence industry would be considered university projects in Turkiye

Also wasn't your HAL helicopters rejected by your ONLY paying export customer for being poor quality?

Kaveri engine? The one you spent 60 years one and lastly went begging to the french for help?

Do you know that it is also an accomplishment to keep on working on any technological R&D project for 60 years? when there are countries where the priority is to kill their own people in the name of religion.

 

[hyperman]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1694149727347171427

https://twitter.com/x/status/1652235883297525762

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First Astra test-firing from LCA Tejas just happened off India's west coast. The indigenous BVRAAM was fired from LSP-7.
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Indian Air Force moves Tejas fighter jets to Kashmir

The Indian Air Force has deployed its indigenous Light Combat Aircraft Tejas in Jammu and Kashmir so that pilots gain experience in flying in the valleys along the border with Pakistan. The IAF has multiple bases in the northern sector to support operations on both the China and Pakistan fronts...

www.google.com

https://twitter.com/x/status/1669353979866910722

https://twitter.com/x/status/1643636712705253376

IAF set to receive LCA-Mk1A in February 2024

www.deccanherald.com

The Kaveri is a failed project, it started in 1986, we are in 4 months from 2024. It failed to achieve project requirements, which was a powerplant for the LCA, that never happend and now they are trying to salvage it as a drone engine, which again i have yet to see tests on the drone itself. That turbroprop, didn't we see a drone crash recently with the same engine? Let me know when we see any of those engines in seriel production. lol

The Flying wing is a picture of a toy zoomed in.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe...DRDO_SWiFT.webm/DRDO_SWiFT.webm.720p.vp9.webm

let me know when they show the actual drone with the "Kaveri" fitted. lol

The Arjun is a failed that got rejected by the Indian Army, it was a hodgepodge of equipment bought from abroad, didn't work properly, there were critical design flaws with regards to the armor setup if you look at the OSINT analysis, and that at this point is obsolete. with no real timeline for a new tank with an indigenous powerplant.

The Tejas is the definition of a joke considering when it first started as a project, Project started in 1983, And they still have yet to induct any outside of the development prototypes, basic delta wing designs are outdated now, and this Mirage 2000 clone still hasn't finished development, they didn't even bother adding canards like everyone else was doing in the late 80s-90s. Mark 1 got rejected so they planned for a Mark1A which I still haven't seen go into serial production, and then these people talk about a Mark 2. Maybe it will go into production in the 2030s, when air forces are inducting 5++ or 6th gen fighters. lol

Its straight up embarassing you would pick these examples to brag about "military inductrial complex", India's miltiary industrial complex consists of buying foreign equipment, with heavy graft side deals, maybe a local production line, that inevitably runs into quality control issues. Whith talk of domestic projects that have such nice wikipedia articles, that get delayed and then delayed again, and then delayed again just for good measure, fail to ever go into serial production, then reluctantly forced on its army, which points out flaws and doesn't want to procure it, after which they patch it up haphazardly in updates and modification, and almost never exported.

If I'm being honest I wouldn't even put India in the top 10 of functional military industrial complexes.

Indian industries contribution to INS Vikrant:
1. Combat Management System: Tata Advanced System
2. Electronics Warfare Suite 'Shakti' : Bharat Electronics Limited
3. Ships Data Network: Bharat Electronics Limited
4. Power Distribution System: L&T
5. Integrated Platform Management System: Bharat Heavy Electricals Limited
6. AK 630 CIWS: M/s Gun and Shell Factory, Cossipore
7. Stabilized Optronics Pedestral: BEL, Chennai
8. Integrated Bridge System: Navicom , Mumbai
9. Ship Weapon Interlock Safety System: M/s BAeHAL, Bengaluru
10. Kavach Mod II: Machine Tool Prototype Factory, Ambarnath
11. EM Log/Echosounder: KELTRON, Trivandrum
12. Air Conditioning and Refrigeration Plants: Kirloskar, Pune
13. Steering Gear: L&T Defence, Mumbai
14. Centrifuges: Alfa Laval, Pune
15. RO Plant: Rochem, Mumbai
16. Diesel Alternator: Wartsila, Mumbai
17. Gearbox: Elecon Engineering
18. High Pressure and Low Pressure Compressors: LG India
19. Anchor Capstan: Geetha Engineering, Mumbai
20. Hatches and Doors: Godrej, Mumbai
21. Impressed Current Cathodic Protection: Sargam Metals, Chennai
22. Laundry and Galley: Sushma Marine, Mumbai
23. RHIB and LCVP Davits: SHM Shipcare, Mumbai
24. Sanitation System : Vacman Sanitation Solutions, Mumbai
25. SRGM: Haridwar unit of BHEL

Give me a percentage not a list of foreign vs domestic products and price point percentages as well for foreign and domestic.

The dream of having an indigenous aircraft carrier would not have materialised had it not been for a little-known steel factory in Odisha. The first good news in India’s two-decade-long quest to construct an aircraft carrier came from the Steel Authority of India (SAIL) factory in Rourkela which delivered a special quality military-grade steel — DMR-249A — for building Vikrant.
In the late 1990s, the Indian Navy acquired a Russian formula on military-grade steel, but had no idea about the process and chemistry. The Naval Material Research Laboratory and Heavy Engineering Corporation first gave it a go, but failed.
The Defence Metallurgical Research Laboratory and SAIL picked up the baton and, after a few years of trial and error, delivered top-quality steel to the shipyard, saving the country hundreds of crores.
The experience helped Indian steel factories manufacture such steel for indigenous construction of every warship and submarine. A second special type (DMR249z25) was created for Vikrant’s machine and engine rooms so that the chambers are protected from a torpedo hit. The DMR249 steels are one of the military items that India wants to export, thanks to Project IAC or Indigenous Aircraft Carrier, now known as Vikrant. This is not an isolated example.
Several other Vikrant technologies such as the explosion-proof automatic energy lamp and transparent RF shielding now find applications outside the military

Aren't you still importing steel from Russia for warships? lol

No, they can't do that because majority of the prototypes were rolled out without critical sensors and working engine. They're yet to complete the CDR

If it flies by 2024 people are going to come back to this thread to mock you. Idk what you mean by critical sensors, but first flight almost never have the completed suite of sensors outside of those needed for basic flight(see the YF-23, YF-22, PAKFA etc). the Hurjet already flew, I would not be surprised if th TFX's basic sensors are ready for flight, the engine integration is already done. So we will see which one is in the air first, the TFX or the AMCA. lol, knowing the DRDO record, I wouldn't have my hopes up. lol

 

[hyperman]

Do you know that it is also an accomplishment to keep on working on any technological R&D project for 60 years?

this sounds like cope. lol

when there are countries where the priority is to kill their own people in the name of religion.

RSS/Bajrang Dal in Manipur?

 

[VkdIndian]

As much as I would love to praise Indian efforts, there is no doubt that Turkey has made giant leaps in the development of niche defence tech.

The work they have done on UAVs of various kinds, is stellar. The pace with which they are moving on Kaan is something not seen in the past. It looks almost certain that Kaan would take to the air well before AMCA.

The area where Turkey lacks is an engine, for their fighters, but having seen their zeal in the recent past, there is no doubt that they will produce one in a very short time, compared to many other nations.

India on the other hand, is still shackled by bureaucratic procedures and slumber in the government agencies.

This thread was about India selling stuff to Armenia. These are commercial deals. Whether, they use them properly to defeat AZ or get defeated, is no way a reflection on India and it’s weapon systems. Armenia has to make a plan and buy weapons accordingly. If they don’t then, it is their problem, not India’s.

 

[NG Missile Vessels]

The Tejas is the definition of a joke considering when it first started as a project,

Jamming pods that DRDO has developed for LCA MK1A and SU-30 MKI are based on GaN T/R modules. Confirmed by a DRDO scientist @ 3:27:

We have achieved something which even French do not have. Rafale's SPECTRA has GaA jamming, whilst our LCA Mk1A will have GaN based HBJ pods/EW suite from its first model next year. These ASPJ/HBJ pods we've developed for LCA-Mk-1A & Su-30MKI are both capable of transmitting and receiving, thus consisting of both TX and RX antennas.This configuration would allow both the fighters to do cross-eye jamming much effectively, thereby deceiving the enemy radar by creating false targets.

MKI is already a very powerful jet, just imagine the kind of jamming power at its disposal with GaN EW suite.

It will have power to make even AESA LPI radars and AESA missile seekers totally ineffective like SPECTRA

 

[POPEYE-Sailor]

Its a great opportunity for PK n India for test their weapon by donating or selling weapons to armenia n azerbaijan

 

[Chandragupt Maurya]

The Kaveri is a failed project, it started in 1986, we are in 4 months from 2024. It failed to achieve project requirements, which was a powerplant for the LCA, that never happend and now they are trying to salvage it as a drone engine, which again i have yet to see tests on the drone itself. That turbroprop, didn't we see a drone crash recently with the same engine? Let me know when we see any of those engines in seriel production. lol

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The Flying wing is a picture of a toy zoomed in.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe...DRDO_SWiFT.webm/DRDO_SWiFT.webm.720p.vp9.webm

let me know when they show the actual drone with the "Kaveri" fitted. lol

The Arjun is a failed that got rejected by the Indian Army, it was a hodgepodge of equipment bought from abroad, didn't work properly, there were critical design flaws with regards to the armor setup if you look at the OSINT analysis, and that at this point is obsolete. with no real timeline for a new tank with an indigenous powerplant.

The Tejas is the definition of a joke considering when it first started as a project, Project started in 1983, And they still have yet to induct any outside of the development prototypes, basic delta wing designs are outdated now, and this Mirage 2000 clone still hasn't finished development, they didn't even bother adding canards like everyone else was doing in the late 80s-90s. Mark 1 got rejected so they planned for a Mark1A which I still haven't seen go into serial production, and then these people talk about a Mark 2. Maybe it will go into production in the 2030s, when air forces are inducting 5++ or 6th gen fighters. lol

Its straight up embarassing you would pick these examples to brag about "military inductrial complex", India's miltiary industrial complex consists of buying foreign equipment, with heavy graft side deals, maybe a local production line, that inevitably runs into quality control issues. Whith talk of domestic projects that have such nice wikipedia articles, that get delayed and then delayed again, and then delayed again just for good measure, fail to ever go into serial production, then reluctantly forced on its army, which points out flaws and doesn't want to procure it, after which they patch it up haphazardly in updates and modification, and almost never exported.

If I'm being honest I wouldn't even put India in the top 10 of functional military industrial complexes.



Give me a percentage not a list of foreign vs domestic products and price point percentages as well for foreign and domestic.



Aren't you still importing steel from Russia for warships? lol



If it flies by 2024 people are going to come back to this thread to mock you. Idk what you mean by critical sensors, but first flight almost never have the completed suite of sensors outside of those needed for basic flight(see the YF-23, YF-22, PAKFA etc). the Hurjet already flew, I would not be surprised if th TFX's basic sensors are ready for flight, the engine integration is already done. So we will see which one is in the air first, the TFX or the AMCA. lol, knowing the DRDO record, I wouldn't have my hopes up. lol

Tejas surpasses KAAN due to its operational history since 2011. In comparison, KAAN has yet to embark on its inaugural flight, and the process of fighter jet induction typically spans a decade following the initial flight. Tejas, having first flown in 2001, was inducted in 2011. A similar timeline was observed with Rafales, which took their first flight in 1986 and were inducted in 2001. In contrast, Turkey's approach seems hurried in order to garner media attention, which could extend the timeline to around 15-20 years for their fighter jet induction.

 

[hyperman]

Tejas surpasses KAAN due to its operational history since 2011.

Oh Yeah good logic, so Mig-21 were 'surpassing" the Tejas until 2010? lol

This is just foolish coping. lol

Picking out a couple of outliers doesn't make it the rule. The Rafale delays were b/c of a multitude of reasons. Why not use the F-16 as an example? first flew in 1974, and was inducted in 1978. The f-18 first flight 1978, inducted 1983.

making up BS excuses for DRDO failures. lol

Tejas project started in 1983, and the Mark1 failed to meet requirements, and we still haven't seen a Mark1A start induction. then there is supposed to be a Mark2? By all accounts that plane is a disaster. And they are going to build a TEDBF and then an AMCA? on what timeline? lol

You people are very good at writing wikipedia articles, there is an article for every tiny project, but they never materialize. Its all vaporware. lol

 

[NG Missile Vessels]

making up BS excuses for DRDO failures. lol

Tejas project started in 1983, and we still haven't seen a Mark1A start induction. then there is supposed to be a Mark2? By all accounts that plane is a disaster. And they are going to build a TEDBF and then an AMCA? on what timeline? lol

You people are very good at writing wikipedia articles, there is an article for every tiny project, but they never materialize. Its all vaporware. lol

@MirageBlue @CallSignMaverick @Cheepek

the Mark1 failed to meet requirements

 

[hyperman]

@MirageBlue @CallSignMaverick @Cheepek

Oh great now I'm going to be hounded by 4 different people, why not just argue yourself. *sigh* well I have no interests in a flame war, so I'm going to step out of this thread now. lol

 

[Hellfire2006]

REALITY

Indian ROUSTAM UAV is nothing

on the other hand Turkish UCAVs destroyed over 1.000 military equipment in Syria , Libya , Karabakh and Ukraine

34 Countrries bought battle proven Turkish TB-2 , ANKA , AKSUNGUR , AKINCI UCAVs

last one is S.Arabia which buys AKINCI UCAVs for $3,1 billion


Turkiye sold hundreds of military eqipment to 170 countries including UCAVs , Air Defense Systems , Radars , Satellite , Warships , guided MLRS , Ballistic and Cruise Missiles

also Fighter Jets , Helicopters on the way
Azerbaijan joined Turkish KAAN Fighter Jet project

Indian AMCA still on paper

Yet to see a turkish jet which can actually fly.

 

[Foinikas]

Yet to see a turkish jet which can actually fly.

 

[Hellfire2006]

Oh Yeah good logic, so Mig-21 were 'surpassing" the Tejas until 2010? lol

Whatever delays the tejas project suffers are irrelevant in the current sceanrio. Bringing it up again and again serves no purpose considering that it has been serving the indian air force for nearly a decade and has participated in foreign exercises. It's an affordable, simple but effective design which has versatility for integration of multiple weapon systems of indian, western and russian origin making it particularly unique.

This is just foolish coping. lol

Picking out a couple of outliers doesn't make it the rule. The Rafale delays were b/c of a multitude of reasons. Why not use the F-16 as an example? first flew in 1974, and was inducted in 1978. The f-18 first flight 1978, inducted 1983.

making up BS excuses for DRDO failures. lol

Hypocrisy at its peak ! You can justify the dealy in the rafale project despite the fact that france had a very advanced aerospace industry since the 50s yet you ignore the fact that ADA, HAL started the tejas programme from scratch at a time when india was heavily sanctioned by western powers from sourcing critical tech and materials required for the project.

Tejas project started in 1983, and the Mark1 failed to meet requirements,

Update yourself, Whatever issues the mark 1 had were rectified in the FoC configuration..

and we still haven't seen a Mark1A start induction.

The timeline for Mark1A is on schedule dont worry.

then there is supposed to be a Mark2?

Mark2 is from an entirely different category. It's suppossed to be a medium weight fighter like the F16 and Gripen, the fact that you can't differentiate between the two just proves who ill informed and biased you are

By all accounts that plane is a disaster.

For the haters it is a disaster. From all I've heard from air force guys who"ve flown the tejas they like it. It has an operational readiness rate better than any fighter in the indian air force besides the rafale.

And they are going to build a TEDBF and then an AMCA? on what timeline? lol

That should be the least of your worries. A lot of the news about the projects dosen't come out into the media due to offical reasons.we'll never really know what they're doing till roll it out. Hell we didn"t even know what was going on with the UCAV programme till they flew the SWIFT prototype last year. So just wait and relax.