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Alliance with India in US interest – Chicago Sun

Alliance with US not in Indian interests :undecided:. We should learn that from Pakistan's experience. We must build special relationship like US-UK with Russia and Japan. We have a lot to learn from Japan.
 
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Alliance with India in U.S. interest

STEVE HUNTLEY
shuntley.cst@gmail.com

Mar 10, 2011 06:07PM


The future of the Middle East is being rewritten by events that caught policymakers, the usual experts and indeed virtually everyone by surprise. Elsewhere around the globe, developments are unfolding in a couple of places every bit as significant and also with the potential to unsettle U.S. policy. And this time, Washington shouldn’t be caught unaware.

At the top of the list is volatile Pakistan. Trouble there threatens U.S. objectives in Afghanistan. Relations have deteriorated to the point that Pakistan’s military intelligence reportedly no longer helps the CIA target our enemies hiding in remote areas of the country. The reason is dispiriting: U.S. drone attacks are aimed at the Haqqani organization in North Waziristan, which is responsible for bloody attacks in Afghanistan. It has long been supported by Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence agency as a proxy for its interests in Afghanistan. The ISI also backs Haqqani militants and other radical Islamist groups as surrogates in its cold war with India.

The CIA has developed its own network of information-gathering to direct Predator drone missiles on the Taliban, Haqqani and other enemies in Pakistani border areas. But the numbers show the impact of ISI non-cooperation: Drone attacks have declined since last fall.

The ISI has ruthlessly undermined U.S. interests. The CIA station chief in Islamabad had to flee the country after the ISI exposed his identity. Pakistan has thumbed its nose at international treaties by arresting a CIA operative with diplomatic immunity. This is not unlike Iran’s taking hostage U.S. embassy personnel in 1979. U.S. troops have achieved remarkable gains in blunting the Taliban’s momentum in Afghanistan. But in Pakistan, feverish anti-Americanism and religious extremism — the country’s only Christian Cabinet member was murdered recently — threaten to undermine the U.S. war effort.

The other challenge for U.S. policymakers is the increasingly assertive military stance of China. Beijing is pushing up military spending by nearly 13 percent this year. It recently unveiled a stealth jet similar to the U.S. F-22, plans to add 15 vessels to its fleet of more than 60 submarines and is commissioning what will be its first, but certainly not its last aircraft carrier.

China’s acknowledged military spending has soared from $17 billion in 2001 to $78 billion last year, and the actual figure may be closer to $150 billion, according to the Wall Street Journal. That instills worry among its neighbors in the Asia-Pacific region. An Australian defense think tank concluded that China’s arms buildup “is potentially the most demanding security situation faced since the Second World War.”

Fortunately there’s a natural ally for America in countering the Pakistani and Chinese challenges. It’s India, the world’s most populous democracy. To their credit, Presidents Obama and George W. Bush have cultivated ties with India.

The interests of America and India coincide. India, like America, has been the victim of devastating terrorist attacks. Metastasizing radical Islamism, with the potential to turn Pakistan into a failed state with nuclear weapons, is a vital national security issue for Washington and New Delhi. A U.S. decision to aid India with, for example, missile-defense technology would be a powerful message to Pakistan.

China and India fought a war in 1962, and today their emerging economic rivalry matches their growing military arsenals. Japan, South Korea and other neighbors of China also have been alarmed by China’s military buildup and have sought to bolster their own defenses. India constitutes the logical hub for a new American alliance with Asian and Pacific nations to balance Beijing’s growing military clout and to maintain stability in the region.

Washington can’t anticipate every foreign upheaval, but closer ties with India could prepare for what may be gathering storms on the other side of the world.

Pakistan should continue defence partnership with China,North Korea ,Iran and Russia to counter US/ISRAEL/INDIA threat in South,Central and East Asia.

A small correction in the last line added by you , Russia and Iran have much better ties with India than with Pakistan .

You guys should ally with China and N.K against India.

Yeah carry on now.
 
Alliance with US not in Indian interests :undecided:. We should learn that from Pakistan's experience. We must build special relationship like US-UK with Russia and Japan. We have a lot to learn from Japan.

India is not Pakistan . We are never going to make ourselves dependent on the US the way Pakistan did. When you become dependent on another country for so much , it will exploit you , it is true for any country not just USA. Plus do you really think only USA had used Pakistan and that Pakistan has not played USA ?

Please have some respect for your country , there is massive difference between India and Pakistan which the world sees but somehow you don't.
 
Please have some respect for your country , there is massive difference between India and Pakistan which the world sees but somehow you don't.
Mate, I would like to point out the fake Hydrogen bomb test UK had to do to cement their "special" US-UK alliance. India shall never stoop to those levels while at the same time US would not offer such relationship to India.

The line i'd pick from US-Pak chapter is the emphasis on "National interests are permanent, nothing else". Sure India is no Pakistan in more ways than one would admit here.

We should and are buying what we need from US and allies (Israel). But Alliance?
It flows from someones' assertion: "For India, alliance is obligation; for USA, it is an opportunity".

Regards
 
Mate, I would like to point out the fake Hydrogen bomb test UK had to do to cement their "special" US-UK alliance. India shall never stoop to those levels while at the same time US would not offer such relationship to India.

The line i'd pick from US-Pak chapter is the emphasis on "National interests are permanent, nothing else". Sure India is no Pakistan in more ways than one would admit here.

We should and are buying what we need from US and allies (Israel). But Alliance?
It flows from someones' assertion: "For India, alliance is obligation; for USA, it is an opportunity".

Regards

I guess you are right about the fact that we have to be careful in our dealings with US but being in an alliance which is non-military in nature will be beneficial in the long run .My personal opinion is this and US will be able to use/exploit India only as much as we allow them to .
 
I guess you are right about the fact that we have to be careful in our dealings with US but being in an alliance which is non-military in nature will be beneficial in the long run .My personal opinion is this and US will be able to use/exploit India only as much as we allow them to .
And I thought the only export of USA was weapons. :hitwall::lol:
 
What amuses me is that historically US was the buddy of Pakistan and Russia was the buddy of India. Now with India becoming more and more friendly with the US + Nato gang and anti-US sentiments in Pakistan i wonder how things will turn out, esp between India and Russia defence relations.
 
Alliance with India in US interest – Chicago Sun
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Alliance with India in U.S. interest

STEVE HUNTLEY
shuntley.cst@gmail.com

Mar 10, 2011 06:07PM


The future of the Middle East is being rewritten by events that caught policymakers, the usual experts and indeed virtually everyone by surprise. Elsewhere around the globe, developments are unfolding in a couple of places every bit as significant and also with the potential to unsettle U.S. policy. And this time, Washington shouldn’t be caught unaware.

At the top of the list is volatile Pakistan. Trouble there threatens U.S. objectives in Afghanistan. Relations have deteriorated to the point that Pakistan’s military intelligence reportedly no longer helps the CIA target our enemies hiding in remote areas of the country. The reason is dispiriting: U.S. drone attacks are aimed at the Haqqani organization in North Waziristan, which is responsible for bloody attacks in Afghanistan. It has long been supported by Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence agency as a proxy for its interests in Afghanistan. The ISI also backs Haqqani militants and other radical Islamist groups as surrogates in its cold war with India.

The CIA has developed its own network of information-gathering to direct Predator drone missiles on the Taliban, Haqqani and other enemies in Pakistani border areas. But the numbers show the impact of ISI non-cooperation: Drone attacks have declined since last fall.

The ISI has ruthlessly undermined U.S. interests. The CIA station chief in Islamabad had to flee the country after the ISI exposed his identity. Pakistan has thumbed its nose at international treaties by arresting a CIA operative with diplomatic immunity. This is not unlike Iran’s taking hostage U.S. embassy personnel in 1979. U.S. troops have achieved remarkable gains in blunting the Taliban’s momentum in Afghanistan. But in Pakistan, feverish anti-Americanism and religious extremism — the country’s only Christian Cabinet member was murdered recently — threaten to undermine the U.S. war effort.

The other challenge for U.S. policymakers is the increasingly assertive military stance of China. Beijing is pushing up military spending by nearly 13 percent this year. It recently unveiled a stealth jet similar to the U.S. F-22, plans to add 15 vessels to its fleet of more than 60 submarines and is commissioning what will be its first, but certainly not its last aircraft carrier.

China’s acknowledged military spending has soared from $17 billion in 2001 to $78 billion last year, and the actual figure may be closer to $150 billion, according to the Wall Street Journal. That instills worry among its neighbors in the Asia-Pacific region. An Australian defense think tank concluded that China’s arms buildup “is potentially the most demanding security situation faced since the Second World War.”

Fortunately there’s a natural ally for America in countering the Pakistani and Chinese challenges. It’s India, the world’s most populous democracy. To their credit, Presidents Obama and George W. Bush have cultivated ties with India.

The interests of America and India coincide. India, like America, has been the victim of devastating terrorist attacks. Metastasizing radical Islamism, with the potential to turn Pakistan into a failed state with nuclear weapons, is a vital national security issue for Washington and New Delhi. A U.S. decision to aid India with, for example, missile-defense technology would be a powerful message to Pakistan.

China and India fought a war in 1962, and today their emerging economic rivalry matches their growing military arsenals. Japan, South Korea and other neighbors of China also have been alarmed by China’s military buildup and have sought to bolster their own defenses. India constitutes the logical hub for a new American alliance with Asian and Pacific nations to balance Beijing’s growing military clout and to maintain stability in the region.

Washington can’t anticipate every foreign upheaval, but closer ties with India could prepare for what may be gathering storms on the other side of the world.

Pakistan should continue defence partnership with China,North Korea ,Iran and Russia to counter US/ISRAEL/INDIA threat in South,Central and East Asia.
Muhammad Bhai! Your slip is showing! The last line of your's that I've put in bold IS NOT PART OF THE ARTICLE!! You have cleverly interposed it to be seen like it is part of the article itself! Jeeez! The link in case anyone is interested is here...

Alliance with India in U.S. interest - Chicago Sun-Times

Your analysis that 'Pakistan should continue defence partnership with China,North Korea ,Iran and Russia to counter US/ISRAEL/INDIA threat in South,Central and East Asia' is flawed. Presently, there is NO defence partnership between Pakistan and Russia, Iran. North Korea and China of course have strong military oriented partnerships with Pakistan especially where nuclear weapons and missile technology are concerned. The blatant nuclear and missile proliferation is the hallmark of this three way relationship.

Cheers!
 
Who needs blackwater when congrass party has let loose evil american corporations like monsanto inside india.
 
Interests such as counter-terrorism are one thing.

But best not to let America use you lot as baits like they are doing in Taiwan and some of those Middle Eastern countries apart from Israel.

The term "alliance" is kinda misleading. I would generally oppose having a NATO-like alliance designed to gang up against China. And seeing how much of joke SAARC has become, it just becomes more misleading.
 
Interests such as counter-terrorism are one thing.

But best not to let America use you lot as baits like they are doing in Taiwan and some of those Middle Eastern countries apart from Israel.

The term "alliance" is kinda misleading. I would generally oppose having a NATO-like alliance designed to gang up against China. And seeing how much of joke SAARC has become, it just becomes more misleading.

There wont be any alliance. Capitol hill claims India as a partner, doesnt matter what the media speculates. India is too big to join NATO and gang up against China.
 

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