An Israeli reoccupation of Gaza would be a mistake, Biden says

[Bilal9]

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An Israeli reoccupation of Gaza would be a mistake, Biden says© Demetrius Freeman/The Washington Post

President Biden said in an interview broadcast Sunday that a new Israeli occupation of Gaza would be “a big mistake,” comments that came as Israel is expected to launch a hard-hitting ground invasion of the Palestinian enclave.

“I think it’d be a big mistake,” Biden said in a response to a question from “60 Minutes” host Scott Pelley. “Hamas and the extreme elements of Hamas don’t represent all the Palestinian people. And I think that … it would be a mistake … for Israel to occupy … Gaza again.”

Biden’s warning against reoccupying Gaza amounted to one of his firmest efforts so far to impose a limit on Israel’s actions in retaliation for Hamas attacks that have killed at least 1,400 people. Still, he added, “Going in but taking out the extremists — the Hezbollah is up north but Hamas down south — is a necessary requirement.”


Biden sought to draw a distinction between Hamas, the militant group that rules Gaza and launched a bloody attack on Israel on Oct. 7, and ordinary Palestinians who are now facing dire conditions in the densely populated enclave of over 2 million people, more than half of whom are children.

While he said Hamas needs to be eliminated, he added: “There needs to be a Palestinian Authority. There needs to be a path to a Palestinian state.”

Israel captured the Gaza Strip, along with the West Bank, in the 1967 war, but it unilaterally withdrew from Gaza in 2005. In June 2007, Hamas took over Gaza from the Palestinian Authority.

Even without a formal occupation, Israel controls most aspects of life in Gaza, and most Palestinians are not able to exit the territory. Israel announced a full siege of Gaza after the attacks, cutting off food, water, fuel and electricity, a tactic that human rights groups have said violate the laws of war. Gaza is almost out of fuel and many residents do not have access to safe drinking water.

Biden has stood steadfastly by Israel since the Hamas attacks just over a week ago, even as Israel has launched a bombardment of airstrikes on Gaza that have killed more than 2,600 people. The White House is in discussions with Israeli officials about Biden traveling to Israel, potentially as soon as this week, according to a person familiar with the discussions, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to talk about private deliberations.

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Israeli media reported that during a phone call on Saturday, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu invited Biden to Israel. Officials of both countries are talking about the feasibility of such a trip, which could present logistical and political difficulties if Biden visits while a fierce Israeli incursion into Gaza is underway.

White House officials would not comment on the potential trip. “We have no new travel to announce,” Adrienne Watson, a spokeswoman for the National Security Council, said in a statement.

Israel last week urged more than 1 million people in Gaza to evacuate within 24 hours in advance of its incursion, an order the United Nations called impossible. Hundreds of thousands of Gaza civilians have fled south, while others chose to stay in their homes after hearing reports of airstrikes hitting potential exit routes.

Asked whether Israel would pursue a path toward a Palestinian state after the Hamas attacks, Biden said “not now.” Still, he added, “I think Israel understands that a significant portion of Palestinian people do not share the views of Hamas and Hezbollah.”

Palestinian gunmen from Hamas launched their surprise attack more than a week ago after breaking through Israel’s sophisticated border fence. The militants hunted civilians in their homes and cars and took scores of people hostage into Gaza, including some Americans. At least 30 U.S. citizens were killed in the attacks, U.S. officials said.

Biden and his top officials have said they are working to secure humanitarian corridors into Gaza to enable fuel and food to come in. Israel’s energy minister, Israel Katz, said Sunday that Netanyahu and Biden have reached a deal to restore water supplies to some parts of southern Gaza.

When asked whether it was time for a cease-fire, given the number of Palestinian civilians that have already been killed in the aerial counterattack, Biden said Israel has a duty to respond to the horrific attacks.

“Israel is going after a group of people who have engaged in barbarism that is as consequential as the Holocaust,” Biden said. “Israel has to respond. They have to go after Hamas. Hamas is a bunch of cowards. They’re hiding behind the civilians.”

Biden, who has spent much of his 50-plus years in politics steeped in foreign policy, has always been firmly pro-Israel even as some parts of the Democratic Party have increasingly questioned the U.S. military and diplomatic support for the country.

Some liberals have raised concerns over Israel’s years-long punishing blockade of Gaza and its aggressive development of settlements in the occupied West Bank. Netanyahu has also formed the most far-right government in Israel’s history, sought to overhaul its independent judiciary and all but dismissed the idea of a two-state solution.

Biden declined to criticize Israel directly for its siege of Gaza, though he said he would like to see a humanitarian corridor and supplies brought into Gaza.

“I’m confident that Israel is going to act under … the rules of war,” Biden said, a statement he has made multiple times in the past week. “There’s standards that democratic institutions and countries go by. And so I’m confident that there’s going to be an ability for the innocents in Gaza to be able to have access to medicine and food and water.”

Tyler Pager contributed to this report.

 

[epebble]

No idiot wants to occupy a place that will become hell on earth. Who wants to become the President of Haiti? Any takers? Guessed so.

 

[大汉奸柳传志]

from pure military standpoint Gaza is a fortress and a death trap for IDF ground force, even Israelis know it


much bigger challenge for the offensive side compare to Bakhmut, and IDF is no match for Wagner pmcs

 

[mulj]

war criminal that provided bombs and armament for genocide and now he backtrack, no credibility left in his statements.

 

[Abid123]

from pure military standpoint Gaza is a fortress and a death trap for IDF ground force, even Israelis know it


much bigger challenge for the offensive side compare to Bakhmut, and IDF is no match for Wagner pmcs

Many of them are also conscripts.

 

[buntalanlucu]

This is correct , reoccupation is a big mistake as Israel will suffer economy disaster by endless small conflicts in gaza.

the Israeli plan to move ALL Gaza residents to the southern parth and will occupy the north part of gaza totally devoid of palestinian

 

[Muhammed45]

Senile cannot occupy Gaza and then claims this. American soldiers were massacred while trying to enter Gaza.

This senile is justifying his future retreat. Fkin loser

 

[aziqbal]

the bottle line here is t

from pure military standpoint Gaza is a fortress and a death trap for IDF ground force, even Israelis know it


much bigger challenge for the offensive side compare to Bakhmut, and IDF is no match for Wagner pmcs

it is true bottom here is this

in the 18th century there was a saying if Britain controls the seas they control the world

then came the Americans in 20th century and said if you control the air you control the ground

very well

only one thing is missing, UK ran the Empire with the civil servant, Americans dont have such a thing

for years and decades Western military relied in air power, while using proxy groups on the ground which tuned the minute they were not paid

Western nations got beat on the ground in Iraq and Afghanistan and they also told Israel control the air and you can control the ground

stupid muppets didnt think what happens when you need boots on the ground ? you need critical mass you need cannon fodder at some point you need men on the ground

Russian has proved that it can still rumble on the ground and fight like men and its become clear the over reliance on air has lead to their down fall

Russia has retained its ground fighting capability and Battle of Bakhmut shows how deep they will dig to win

no other army in the world can rumble like the Russians, true warriors good fighters

now Israel needs 43 naval ships from 16 nations and 600,000 soldiers to enter Gaza and thats not even adding Hezbollah into the equation

again point proven, air power alone cannot beat the people on the ground to hold ground you need men on the ground who can fight

China has air power and ground capability, US will stand not chance against China

 

[LeGenD]

American soldiers were massacred while trying to enter Gaza.

No proof of this claim.

American Commandos Are in Israel Helping to Locate Hostages, Pentagon Says

A Defense Department official, Christopher P. Maier, declined to say how many U.S. Special Operations forces were currently in Israel. But other U.S. officials say the Defense Department has dispatched several dozen commandos in recent weeks.

www.nytimes.com

American role on the ground in Gaza is very limited in its scope.

However, if this is about bragging then you need to study history. Below are some examples:

Battle of Aachen in 1944
Battle of Manila in 1945
Battle of Seoul in 1950
Battle of Hue in 1968
Battle of Nasiriyah in 2003
Battle of Baghdad in 2003
Battle of Fallujah in 2004
Battle of Mosul (2016 - 2017)
Battle of Raqqa (2016 - 2017)

In comparison, Iran could not take a single Iraqi city in war.

Western nations got beat on the ground in Iraq and Afghanistan and they also told Israel control the air and you can control the ground

I do not recall Saddam regime defeating US-led forces on the ground and preventing occupation of the country in 2003:

US successfully applied its AirLand Battle doctrine to defeat Saddam regime in 2003 (Operation Iraqi Freedom):

Defense Technical Information Center

apps.dtic.mil

US-led forces also defeated insurgent groups that emerged in Iraq with Syrian and Iranian support to reclaim the country in subsequent years:

The 2008 Battle of Sadr City: Reimagining Urban Combat

Coalition forces' defeat of an uprising in Sadr City helped consolidate the Government of Iraq's authority, contributing significantly to the attainment of contemporary U.S. operational objectives in Iraq.

www.rand.org

A Shiite Militia in Baghdad Sees Its Power Wane (Published 2008)

The Mahdi Army has been profoundly weakened in a number of neighborhoods, in an important, if tentative, milestone for stability in Iraq.

www.nytimes.com

Iraqi insurgency was a very violent and destructive development on the whole with Syria and Iran providing arms and guidance to different insurgent groups in Iraq but US-led forces defeated all insurgent groups and stabilized the country in 2008 and Obama administration withdrew US-led forces from Iraq in 2011.

US have transformed Iraq into a federal parliamentary representative democratic republic in the end:

A guide to Iraq's government formation process, as stated in the constitution | Embassy of the Republic of Iraq in Washington, D.C.

www.iraqiembassy.us

Saddam regime is gone and Iraqi political landscape is rebooted.

Western nations got beat on the ground in Iraq and Afghanistan and they also told Israel control the air and you can control the ground

US told Taliban regime not to support Al-Qaeda Network in 2001 only to be rebuffed at the time. This is pointed out in various sources including Musharraf's book (click). So US decided to teach Taliban regime a lesson.

I do not recall Taliban regime defeating US-led forces on the ground and preventing occupation of the country in 2001:

Toppling the Taliban

This report describes the preparations for Operation Enduring Freedom, Army operations and support activities, coalition issues, and civil-military operations in Afghanistan from October 2001 through June 2002.

www.rand.org

After toppling Taliban regime in 2001, US successfully applied its AirLand Battle doctrine to defeat Al-Qaeda Network in Tora Bora in 2002 (Operation Anaconda):

Defense Technical Information Center

apps.dtic.mil

Taliban fled to mountains and neighboring countries to regroup and attack US-backed Afghan setup but many Afghans died in these clashes unfortunately:

Take a look at "Opposition Fighters" section. US-led forces have killed 52893 Taliban and Al-Qaeda fighters in war in AfPak region. US also eliminated Al-Qaeda masterminds around the world:

• Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was assassinated in Iraq in 2006
• Osama Bin Laden was assassinated in Pakistan in 2011
• Abu al-Khayr al-Masri was assassinated in Syria in 2017
• Hamza Bin Laden was assassinated in undisclosed location in 2019 (Pakistan or Afghanistan)
• Abu Muhammad al-Masri was assassinated in Iran in 2021
• Ayman al-Zawahiri was assassinated in Afghanistan in 2022 (During Afghan Taliban rule)

But US was fighting a war in Afghanistan via Pakistan and Pakistan wanted to preserve its interests as well. Pakistan eventually put pressure on the US to respect Pakistani interests and US and Afghan Taliban reached an understanding in Doha Accords in 2020 with Pakistani mediation. Afghan Taliban agreed to not support Al-Qaeda Network and similar elements in the region. Related information in here, here, here, and here.

War in Afghanistan was concluded on following note:

1. Al-Qaeda Network is DEFEATED.
2. Afghan Taliban have agreed to not support Al-Qaeda Network in a deal that was reached in Doha Accords.

This is the outcome while US was fighting another war in the Middle East. Not bad in fact.

Duration of American occupation in Afghanistan = 20 years

You continue to show that you have no common sense and judgement. Western nations got beat on the ground in Iraq and Afghanistan only in your mind.

stupid muppets didnt think what happens when you need boots on the ground ? you need critical mass you need cannon fodder at some point you need men on the ground

Russian has proved that it can still rumble on the ground and fight like men and its become clear the over reliance on air has lead to their down fall

Russia has retained its ground fighting capability and Battle of Bakhmut shows how deep they will dig to win

no other army in the world can rumble like the Russians, true warriors good fighters

now Israel needs 43 naval ships from 16 nations and 600,000 soldiers to enter Gaza and thats not even adding Hezbollah into the equation

again point proven, air power alone cannot beat the people on the ground to hold ground you need men on the ground who can fight

China has air power and ground capability, US will stand not chance against China

Russian forces could not take Kyiv and topple Ukrainian regime:

Russia has managed to hold ground in some Ukrainian lands but at a great cost to its war machine (click) and influence in Europe (click) with uncertain economic outlook (click). Russian military losses will continue to increase each day because there is no indication that Ukraine will give up any time soon. Russian experience in Ukraine rather shows how important it is to have an advanced Air Force to help turn the tide of war and provide CAS to reduce casualties.

US have fought a war in Iraq and Afghanistan at the same time and American casualties are miniscule in comparison to Russian casualties in Ukraine. This is due to American Air Power being very effective in its applications including CAS and American tanks can survive in various combat situations. Now you will be thinking about air defenses but I shall remind you that American Air Power would have defeated them as was shown in Operation Desert Storm in 1990 and Operation Allied Force in 1991.

Both Iraq and Afghanistan presented considerable operational and insurgency challenges but US have demonstrated the capability to fight a war on a much bigger scale than Russia and achieve its war aims with minimum losses.

War in Gaza is ongoing and WE all know what is the eventual outcome. I do not see the need to brag in this case because I respect Palestinians in general.

China has air power and ground capability, US will stand not chance against China

And US does not? American war machine is superior in fact.

Japan also had air power and ground capability in the Pacific War:

Japan thought that it had delivered a massive blow to US in Pearl Harbor in a preemptive move in 1941 but US turned the tide of the war in the Battle of Midway in 1942:

Battle of Midway - Location, Outcome & Significance

The Battle of Midway was an epic WWII clash between the U.S. Navy and the Imperial Japanese Navy that played out six months after the attack on Pearl Harbor. The U.S. Navy’s decisive victory in the air-sea battle (June 3-6, 1942) dashed Japan’s hopes of neutralizing the United States as a naval...

www.history.com

This battle also shows that a military force might look significant on paper but one must have good planning, strategy, tools, and techniques.

U.S. Navy cryptanalysts had begun breaking Japanese communication codes early in 1942, and knew for weeks ahead of time that Japan was planning an attack in the Pacific at a location they called “AF.” Suspecting it was Midway, the Navy decided to send out a false message from the base claiming it was short of fresh water. Japan’s radio operators sent out a similar message about “AF” soon afterward, confirming the location of the planned attack.

Battle of Midway - Location, Outcome & Significance

The Battle of Midway was an epic WWII clash between the U.S. Navy and the Imperial Japanese Navy that played out six months after the attack on Pearl Harbor. The U.S. Navy’s decisive victory in the air-sea battle (June 3-6, 1942) dashed Japan’s hopes of neutralizing the United States as a naval...

www.history.com

US have considerable naval operational history on a global scale, but China is new to this game.

US and China might not want to fight a war Taiwan might test this theory. I recall following masterpiece:

October Surprise: my prediction for war

Sometime between October 10 and October 22, the US will announce an adjustment in the One China Policy and upgrade its diplomatic relations with Taiwan to ambassador level. Within 24 hours, PLAAF will penetrate Taiwan airspace and commence an air war over Taiwan. The US will deploy at least one...

defence.pk

Waiting...

War is not a matter of bragging rights, my very naive friend.

 

[Han Patriot]

No proof of this claim.

American Commandos Are in Israel Helping to Locate Hostages, Pentagon Says

A Defense Department official, Christopher P. Maier, declined to say how many U.S. Special Operations forces were currently in Israel. But other U.S. officials say the Defense Department has dispatched several dozen commandos in recent weeks.

www.nytimes.com

American role on the ground in Gaza is very limited in its scope.

However, if this is about bragging then you need to study history. Below are some examples:

Battle of Aachen in 1944
Battle of Manila in 1945
Battle of Seoul in 1950
Battle of Hue in 1968
Battle of Nasiriyah in 2003
Battle of Baghdad in 2003
Battle of Fallujah in 2004
Battle of Mosul (2016 - 2017)
Battle of Raqqa (2016 - 2017)

In comparison, Iran could not take a single Iraqi city in war.


I do not recall Saddam regime defeating US-led forces on the ground and preventing occupation of the country in 2003:

View attachment 967666

US successfully applied its AirLand Battle doctrine to defeat Saddam regime in 2003 (Operation Iraqi Freedom):

Defense Technical Information Center

apps.dtic.mil

US-led forces also defeated insurgent groups that emerged in Iraq with Syrian and Iranian support to reclaim the country in subsequent years:

The 2008 Battle of Sadr City: Reimagining Urban Combat

Coalition forces' defeat of an uprising in Sadr City helped consolidate the Government of Iraq's authority, contributing significantly to the attainment of contemporary U.S. operational objectives in Iraq.

www.rand.org

A Shiite Militia in Baghdad Sees Its Power Wane (Published 2008)

The Mahdi Army has been profoundly weakened in a number of neighborhoods, in an important, if tentative, milestone for stability in Iraq.

www.nytimes.com

Iraqi insurgency was a very violent and destructive development on the whole with Syria and Iran providing arms and guidance to different insurgent groups in Iraq but US-led forces defeated all insurgent groups and stabilized the country in 2008 and Obama administration withdrew US-led forces from Iraq in 2011.

US have transformed Iraq into a federal parliamentary representative democratic republic in the end:

A guide to Iraq's government formation process, as stated in the constitution | Embassy of the Republic of Iraq in Washington, D.C.

www.iraqiembassy.us

Saddam regime is gone and Iraqi political landscape is rebooted.


US told Taliban regime not to support Al-Qaeda Network in 2001 only to be rebuffed at the time. This is pointed out in various sources including Musharraf's book (click). So US decided to teach Taliban regime a lesson.

I do not recall Taliban regime defeating US-led forces on the ground and preventing occupation of the country in 2001:

Toppling the Taliban

This report describes the preparations for Operation Enduring Freedom, Army operations and support activities, coalition issues, and civil-military operations in Afghanistan from October 2001 through June 2002.

www.rand.org

After toppling Taliban regime in 2001, US successfully applied its AirLand Battle doctrine to defeat Al-Qaeda Network in Tora Bora in 2002 (Operation Anaconda):

Defense Technical Information Center

apps.dtic.mil

Taliban fled to mountains and neighboring countries to regroup and attack US-backed Afghan setup but many Afghans died in these clashes unfortunately:

View attachment 967665

Take a look at "Opposition Fighters" section. US-led forces have killed 52893 Taliban and Al-Qaeda fighters in war in AfPak region. US also eliminated Al-Qaeda masterminds around the world:

• Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was assassinated in Iraq in 2006
• Osama Bin Laden was assassinated in Pakistan in 2011
• Abu al-Khayr al-Masri was assassinated in Syria in 2017
• Hamza Bin Laden was assassinated in undisclosed location in 2019 (Pakistan or Afghanistan)
• Abu Muhammad al-Masri was assassinated in Iran in 2021
• Ayman al-Zawahiri was assassinated in Afghanistan in 2022 (During Afghan Taliban rule)

But US was fighting a war in Afghanistan via Pakistan and Pakistan wanted to preserve its interests as well. Pakistan eventually put pressure on the US to respect Pakistani interests and US and Afghan Taliban reached an understanding in Doha Accords in 2020 with Pakistani mediation. Afghan Taliban agreed to not support Al-Qaeda Network and similar elements in the region. Related information in here, here, here, and here.

War in Afghanistan was concluded on following note:

1. Al-Qaeda Network is DEFEATED.
2. Afghan Taliban have agreed to not support Al-Qaeda Network in a deal that was reached in Doha Accords.

This is the outcome while US was fighting another war in the Middle East. Not bad in fact.

Duration of American occupation in Afghanistan = 20 years

You continue to show that you have no common sense and judgement. Western nations got beat on the ground in Iraq and Afghanistan only in your mind.


Russian forces could not take Kyiv and topple Ukrainian regime:

View attachment 967667

Russia has managed to hold ground in some Ukrainian lands but at a great cost to its war machine (click) and influence in Europe (click) with uncertain economic outlook (click). Russian military losses will continue to increase each day because there is no indication that Ukraine will give up any time soon. Russian experience in Ukraine rather shows how important it is to have an advanced Air Force to help turn the tide of war and provide CAS to reduce casualties.

US have fought a war in Iraq and Afghanistan at the same time and American casualties are miniscule in comparison to Russian casualties in Ukraine. This is due to American Air Power being very effective in its applications including CAS and American tanks can survive in various combat situations. Now you will be thinking about air defenses but I shall remind you that American Air Power would have defeated them as was shown in Operation Desert Storm in 1990 and Operation Allied Force in 1991.

Both Iraq and Afghanistan presented considerable operational and insurgency challenges but US have demonstrated the capability to fight a war on a much bigger scale than Russia and achieve its war aims with minimum losses.

War in Gaza is ongoing and WE all know what is the eventual outcome. I do not see the need to brag in this case because I respect Palestinians in general.


And US does not? American war machine is superior in fact.

Japan also had air power and ground capability in the Pacific War:

Japan thought that it had delivered a massive blow to US in Pearl Harbor in a preemptive move in 1941 but US turned the tide of the war in the Battle of Midway in 1942:

Battle of Midway - Location, Outcome & Significance

The Battle of Midway was an epic WWII clash between the U.S. Navy and the Imperial Japanese Navy that played out six months after the attack on Pearl Harbor. The U.S. Navy’s decisive victory in the air-sea battle (June 3-6, 1942) dashed Japan’s hopes of neutralizing the United States as a naval...

www.history.com

This battle also shows that a military force might look significant on paper but one must have good planning, strategy, tools, and techniques.

U.S. Navy cryptanalysts had begun breaking Japanese communication codes early in 1942, and knew for weeks ahead of time that Japan was planning an attack in the Pacific at a location they called “AF.” Suspecting it was Midway, the Navy decided to send out a false message from the base claiming it was short of fresh water. Japan’s radio operators sent out a similar message about “AF” soon afterward, confirming the location of the planned attack.

Battle of Midway - Location, Outcome & Significance

The Battle of Midway was an epic WWII clash between the U.S. Navy and the Imperial Japanese Navy that played out six months after the attack on Pearl Harbor. The U.S. Navy’s decisive victory in the air-sea battle (June 3-6, 1942) dashed Japan’s hopes of neutralizing the United States as a naval...

www.history.com

US have considerable naval operational history on a global scale, but China is new to this game.

US and China might not want to fight a war Taiwan might test this theory. I recall following masterpiece:

October Surprise: my prediction for war

Sometime between October 10 and October 22, the US will announce an adjustment in the One China Policy and upgrade its diplomatic relations with Taiwan to ambassador level. Within 24 hours, PLAAF will penetrate Taiwan airspace and commence an air war over Taiwan. The US will deploy at least one...

defence.pk

Waiting...

War is not a matter of bragging rights, my very naive friend.

It looks like you are trolling in different threads and I see no change in your behavior. It is becoming tiresome to reason with you. This isn't about having an opinion anymore because you have good knowledge but you are addicted to trolling and you keep pushing it. I can forgive ignorance but I will not overlook willful intentional trolling. Quality of discussion in this forum continues to drop due to the issue of willful intentional trolling and complaints continue to pour in. You might experience a lengthy ban like member (Cash GK). PDF gives importance to establishing facts with citations and caution against all forms of trolling in its rules. Understand this much.

After all the anal lysis, US boots are not in Ukraine. Ran away from Kabul like zombie apocalypse. Had to resort to agent orange and don't even talk about Iraq. WW2 was 75 years ago. China did not even know how to make destroyers then.

 

[LeGenD]

@Muhammed45

Inferiority complex laugh noted, you mollah feeb.

After all the anal lysis, US boots are not in Ukraine. Ran away from Kabul like zombie apocalypse. Had to resort to agent orange and don't even talk about Iraq. WW2 was 75 years ago. China did not even know how to make destroyers then.

Sun Tzu: "The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting."

US is putting this theory to the test in Ukraine, friend. Results are "interesting."

Trump administration had agreed to withdraw troops from Afghanistan in exchange for Taliban not supporting Al-Qaeda Network in Doha Accords in 2020. Trump might sound tough in his statements but he is not interested in fighting wars. Biden administration created bad optics by not coming up with a sensible strategy for withdrawal from Afghanistan. Not the first time an American administration has done something stupid. Biden is old and political fallout might not be his greatest concern, he might not get another term.

US have committed war crimes in Vietnam, true. This war was also fought in the 1960s in a terrain filled with jungles, mountains, and marshes. US was lacking in precision strike options at the time and casualties were high due to infantry-led clashes. American forces had almost crippled Vietcong in 1972 but American political paralysis due to internal problems led to withdrawal from Vietnam. Nevertheless, US and Vietnam are warming up to each other again in a strategic move. Let's see.

Don't even talk about Iraq? War in Iraq rather shows how capable US have become in conventional warfare applications (Operation Desert Storm), urban warfare applications (Operation Iraqi Freedom), and COIN warfare applications (Operation Inherent Resolve). You need to study these operations instead of falling for inferiority complex nonsense online.

I am not holding it against China. I was addressing OP as per the context of his post. I do regard China as a strong and capable country normally.