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China's huge new crew-launching moon rocket could fly for 1st time in 2027, flying astronauts to the moon

I don't know why Americans get so upset to the point that they had to jump in and trash this thread from #3, China just develops herself and plans a have a manned mission on the moon in couples of years, it's got nothing to do with US. China had already made leaps and bounds in space exploration in recent year, there's nothing US can do to stop China to make leaps and bounds in the future, Americans trash talking never stopped China's growth in the past, and wont' stop China in the future.

One word: FEAR

They fear China’s potential and capabilities. They know China will catch up and surpass them in all areas. It’s the same in every sector, not just in space. In supercomputers, in AI, in 5G, in quantum, in batteries, in NEVs, in renewable energy, in shipbuilding, in infrastructure, in top research institutes, in R&D funding, in STEM talent, in patents, in weapons technology, in science & technology overall.

They are sh*t scared of China. Behind their insults of China is a deep rooted fear of China. The same fear Napoleon once talked about. They are petrified of China’s rise.
 
Yes, after that they are going to shut down these dinosaur. RS-25 engine is not in their long term plan due to its extreme cost., USD 100 million per engine which is one time used?

That is why SLS as its launch is already obsolete.

And by that logic your all rockets are also obsolete 😆 you stupid
 
I don't know why Americans get so upset to the point that they had to jump in and trash this thread from #3, China just develops herself and plans a have a manned mission on the moon in couples of years, it's got nothing to do with US. China had already made leaps and bounds in space exploration in recent year, there's nothing US can do to stop China to make leaps and bounds in the future, Americans trash talking never stopped China's growth in the past, and wont' stop China in the future.

Cannot blame them,as they are compelled to do so,just like US politicians
 
Yes, after that they are going to shut down these dinosaur. RS-25 engine is not in their long term plan due to its extreme cost., USD 100 million per engine which is one time used?

That is why SLS as its launch is already obsolete.

you do know it's the most reliable liquid fueled engine ever made @ 99.7 percent.
It is a marvel of engineering and once we perfect solid state Hydrogen fuel cell we won't need bulky fuel tanks and have to worry about cooling or leaking hydrogen. The reason we don't want to lose the skill is because once we solve the Hydrogen storage problem no other fuel matches the power, performance or the availability of hydrogen for interplanetary travel. The RS25 isn't obsolete, it will be indispensable once we solve the cooling and storage problem. We've already found a way to trap and release hydrogen atoms using metamaterials the next step is to make the technology cheap and portable so we can produce hydrogen on mars or trap and store it in space and create fuel. You think the Chinese CASC are stupid to pursue their own RS25 equivalent.
 
I don't know why Americans get so upset to the point that they had to jump in and trash this thread from #3,
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Pics from post #3. China: "Let's throw away our old design plans and just make a SpaceX Falcon 9". :rofl:

Only because China decides yet again to instead of doing something new and innovative they decide to simply take the proven safe shortcut path to success.

Too bad SpaceX can't sit down with Martians and hear their landing strategies instead of spending massive amounts on R&D and trial &error to find something that works.

You guys just make us all laugh.
 
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You and I both know the US has telescopes outside Earths atomsphere that can provide much better photos.
 
You and I both know the US has telescopes outside Earths atomsphere that can provide much better photos.
This is not for taking photo of space. Please do comment on only things you know and not for sake of commenting,
 
By the time the US launched it's first rocket,there was only one precedent(Germany),by the time the US launched it's first satellite,there was also only one precedent(Soviet)

Where as by the China launched it's first rocket/satellite/manned mission,there were two precedents have all of it(US,Russia),so china only need to choose one of those countries

Robert Hutchings Goddard (October 5, 1882 – August 10, 1945)[1] was an American engineer, professor, physicist, and inventor who is credited with creating and building the world's first liquid-fueled rocket.[2] Goddard successfully launched his rocket on March 16, 1926, which ushered in an era of space flight and innovation. He and his team launched 34 rockets[3] between 1926 and 1941, achieving altitudes as high as 2.6 km (1.6 mi) and speeds as fast as 885 km/h (550 mph).[3]


Wernher Magnus Maximilian Freiherr von Braun (23 March 1912 – 16 June 1977) was a German-American aerospace engineer[3] and space architect. He was a member of the Nazi Party and Allgemeine SS, as well as the leading figure in the development of rocket technology in Nazi Germany and a pioneer of rocket and space technology in the United States.[4]

As a young man, von Braun worked in Nazi Germany's rocket development program. He helped design and co-developed the V-2 rocket at Peenemünde during World War II. Following the war, he was secretly moved to the United States, along with about 1,600 other German scientists, engineers, and technicians, as part of Operation Paperclip.[5] He worked for the United States Army on an intermediate-range ballistic missile program, and he developed the rockets that launched the United States' first space satellite Explorer 1 in 1958. He worked with Walt Disney on a series of films, which popularized the idea of human space travel in the US and beyond between 1955 and 1957.[6]

In 1960, his group was assimilated into NASA, where he served as director of the newly formed Marshall Space Flight Center and as the chief architect of the Saturn V super heavy-lift launch vehicle that propelled the Apollo spacecraft to the Moon.[7][8] In 1967, von Braun was inducted into the National Academy of Engineering, and in 1975, he received the National Medal of Science.



On Aug. 10, 1945, Goddard died, and he was never able to see his dreams of his rockets reaching into space come true. Regarded as one of the great pioneers of rocketry, Goddard’s research established the groundwork for American rocketry. Speaking in 1963, Wernher von Braun, developer of many American rockets — including the Saturn V that took astronauts to the Moon — reflected on Goddard’s contribution to the space program.

"His rockets ... may have been rather crude by present-day standards, but they blazed the trail and incorporated many features used in our most modern rockets and space vehicles," von Braun said.
 

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