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Islamabad is under occupation of military and state sponsored terrorists

I have heard this so many times and from so many people (I may have believed this myself in the past). Is there any substance to this? No, this is like making it a holy thing and using it label people traitors and terrorists if they don't believe it. Just another tool to fool and keep people subservient.

One thing that has caused so many problems and brain drain in Pakistan is, faujiz thinking that they are the only patriot sons of the soil and somehow they have this divine right to judge civilians and suspect them for their loyalty and patriotism.

23 March ko missiles kay sath un kay mojid ko March karna chaiay .. lekin karta kaun hy?

Iss muqadas gaaay ko zibah kiay bagair humari taraki na mumkin nazar ati hy. Instead labelling people, they should introspect and realise how much their policies have caused damaged to the country and their unconstitutional acts have led them to where they are now.

Get this in your mind, nation is comprised of people and its citizens, if those citizens are not given their rights and freedom within the bounds of law, then that is not a nation, it is an illegal, fascist group of thugs who think they are a state and have somehow this right to subjugate people.

Pak Fauj ko nawaz ki beti, zardari ka beta, fazal ur rehman ki ulad, rizvi ka beta mubarik ho ... in jaiso say hum ghadar he bhalay, kya karo gay, ziada say ziada humay mar do gay, par kum uz kum roz e mahshar hmara zameer tou saaf ho ga kay maray gay par waqt kay firon, qaroon aur haman kay agay nai jhukay.

Pak Fauj ko itna shauk chara hy na nation ko mehfooz rakhnay ka tou ub waqt a gya hy kay sabit b kary, warna lagay reho, 2 saal, 4 saal iss kay badh Pak tou shayad hat jay ga, fauj bach b gai tou rent pay laga daina kahi yemen, shaam, ukraine wagaira may.
no doubt that there are deficiencies and more so on politician side but we also know what happened weak nations of the world. we can not afford enslavement to try your idealistic views. if IK is given charge of army again and with mandate he will finish the army and then there will be no country and army to reform. we must look for other options. in any case reforms in our political process is more pressing matter than army
 
no doubt that there are deficiencies and more so on politician side but we also know what happened weak nations of the world. we can not afford enslavement to try your idealistic views. if IK is given charge of army again and with mandate he will finish the army and then there will be no country and army to reform. we must look for other options. in any case reforms in our political process is more pressing matter than army

LOL There is already no country. What planet are you living on. What is there left to defend in Pakistan? A country at war with itself. An army that does anything for dollars. A government that is only interested in robbing its citizens. This is a failed country. Pakistan is a failure.
 
no doubt that there are deficiencies and more so on politician side but we also know what happened weak nations of the world. we can not afford enslavement to try your idealistic views. if IK is given charge of army again and with mandate he will finish the army and then there will be no country and army to reform. we must look for other options. in any case reforms in our political process is more pressing matter than army
Yes once IK is in charge he will wipe the Pakistani army till eternity.

Speaking of idealistic views, he might also switch Pakistan to Communism. There is an added motivation of iron brotherhood with China.

Why look for other options? Just declare martial law and have army rule. There will be no need to worry if politicians get along with the Generals or not.
 
no doubt that there are deficiencies and more so on politician side but we also know what happened weak nations of the world. we can not afford enslavement to try your idealistic views. if IK is given charge of army again and with mandate he will finish the army and then there will be no country and army to reform. we must look for other options. in any case reforms in our political process is more pressing matter than army

If you and any other are trying to compare situation of Pakistan with Syria, Libya, Yemen .. you cannot be anymore wrong. Pakistan has its own set of problems and its own dynamics.

By denying elections, the crooks are refusing the constitutional right of the people of Pakistan.

Pakistan army on the other hand created, tolerated and keeps supporting the worst corrupt thugs of Pakistan.

And they should stop insulting intelligence of Pakistanis, army is not the solution but part of the problem. Simple.
 
if IK is given charge of army again and with mandate he will finish the army

No one can, can't say same for the jarnail tola, but no one can finish Pakistan army and live alive in Pakistan. This thought is pure nonsense.
 
No one can, can't say same for the jarnail tola, but no one can finish Pakistan army and live alive in Pakistan. This thought is pure nonsense.
you can have very good idea by looking at the rest of the organs of the state and departments what a politician is capable of. given the chance, what he is saying, his anger and knowing how IK used ISI+army in his tenure, he will turn army into worst than punjab police. and that too without considering his affiliation with some questionable charters, organizations, his time in power and how he implemented New world order agenda in our country.
 
If you and any other are trying to compare situation of Pakistan with Syria, Libya, Yemen .. you cannot be anymore wrong. Pakistan has its own set of problems and its own dynamics.

By denying elections, the crooks are refusing the constitutional right of the people of Pakistan.

Pakistan army on the other hand created, tolerated and keeps supporting the worst corrupt thugs of Pakistan.

And they should stop insulting intelligence of Pakistanis, army is not the solution but part of the problem. Simple.
Good, you should tell that to people of Yemen, syria, Iraq, Ukraine, Libya or perhaps Modi and his cronies who threaten every day of taking Azad Kashmir separating one province or an other or may be when you see execution of there plans for us.

why you think every major western power, india and isreal has problem with our army and now IK join them as well. you may cry coincident but its not.

LOL There is already no country. What planet are you living on. What is there left to defend in Pakistan? A country at war with itself. An army that does anything for dollars. A government that is only interested in robbing its citizens. This is a failed country. Pakistan is a failure.
I feel you are kind of guy who instead of fixing your leaking roof will burn the house down to the ground and call it problem solved.
 
you can have very good idea by looking at the rest of the organs of the state and departments what a politician is capable of. given the chance, what he is saying, his anger and knowing how IK used ISI+army in his tenure, he will turn army into worst than punjab police. and that too without considering his affiliation with some questionable charters, organizations, his time in power and how he implemented New world order agenda in our country.

G ISI and army are doodh peetay kakay that a first prime minister fooled them. Kiss dunia may ho bai?

Good, you should tell that to people of Yemen, syria, Iraq, Ukraine, Libya or perhaps Modi and his cronies who threaten every day of taking Azad Kashmir separating one province or an other or may be when you see execution of there plans for us.

O bai no modi is ever going to take any part of Pakistan, han albat Jarnails may have struck a behind the door deal with him, can't say anything about that, otherwise stop worrying about modi, he knows Pakistanis are no easy game.
 
G ISI and army are doodh peetay kakay that a first prime minister fooled them. Kiss dunia may ho bai?



O bai no modi is ever going to take any part of Pakistan, han albat Jarnails may have struck a behind the door deal with him, can't say anything about that, otherwise stop worrying about modi, he knows Pakistanis are no easy game.
Faiz was bribed for COAS bajwa for extension in return they will support IK for Second term. Bajwa did the unexpected/unagreed and wanted an other extension which IK did not wanted because he wanted his crony Faiz as army chief. we got lucky in this infighting and got rid of all of them in one go.
 
Faiz was bribed for COAS bajwa for extension in return they will support IK for Second term. Bajwa did the unexpected/unagreed and wanted an other extension which IK did not wanted because he wanted his crony Faiz as army chief. we got lucky in this infighting and got rid of all of them in one go.

Okay let us take your example quoted above, how asim munir or any other jarnail is any different than faiz?
 
Okay let us take your example quoted above, how asim munir or any other jarnail is any different than faiz?
i am done with you. you only want arguments without gaining anything from it so remain in your anger and ignorance.
 
no doubt that there are deficiencies and more so on politician side but we also know what happened weak nations of the world. we can not afford enslavement to try your idealistic views. if IK is given charge of army again and with mandate he will finish the army and then there will be no country and army to reform. we must look for other options. in any case reforms in our political process is more pressing matter than army
The nation was running on borrowed time since 1970’s
Anyhow if generals come to power, they aren’t trusting civilians anymore, it’s going to be a police state
 
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