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Ansar Abbasi
Monday, May 09, 2011


ISLAMABAD: The May 2 Abbottabad fiasco has given an already furious Leon Panetta of CIA a God-gifted opportunity to pin down ISI chief Lt General Shuja Pasha and get him replaced by a “friendly” ISI chief who would tow Washington’s line.

Already the leading American magazine, Newsweek, has demanded of the US administration to insist on the resignation of General Pasha whereas an official source in the Pakistan Embassy in Washington confided to this correspondent that some US authorities have already sounded them about their intentions about Pasha. However, no formal demand has been put forward to Islamabad as yet by Washington to this respect.

To the bad luck of Pasha and the ISI, the Abbottabad fiasco has hit Pakistan at a time when Leon Panetta-led CIA and Gen Pasha-led ISI were already at daggers drawn following Pasha’s insistence to curtail and bring into regular check all CIA operations in Pakistan.

The Newsweek in its latest article “A Faltering Bargain with Pakistan” writes: “As a minimal first step, the U.S. should insist on the resignation of the chief of the ISI, Gen. Shuja Pasha, on the official grounds of a gross failure of his service, and the unofficial grounds that this would be the start of a movement toward greater responsibility and accountability in the service. The U.S. should also insist on more rapid progress in creating an effective counter-terrorism agency to coordinate Pakistan’s feuding intelligence services.”

Washington and the CIA have long been desirous of reducing the ISI as its subsidiary agency and for the same purpose have been pressing Pakistan to “restructure” the agency and to bring it under what the US calls “civilian control”.

A couple of years back, reportedly on foreign pressure, a notification was issued to bring the ISI under Interior Minister Rehman Malik but it was undone immediately following military establishment’s serious objections and the general condemnation of this move by the media, political parties, retired generals, etc. Interestingly, the timing of the notification coincided with the first official visit of Prime Minister Yusuf Raza Gilani to Washington.

In the post-May 2 get-Osama operation by special US forces in Abbottabad, the CIA Chief Leon Panetta came really hard on the ISI despite the latter’s sharing of crucial intelligence information as acknowledged even by President Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. Panetta, however, while commenting about OBL’s whereabouts suggested that Pakistan (ISI) was either accomplice or incompetent. It was the first serious charge levelled by Washington against Pakistan, which though has categorically said that it was the ISI, which provided to the CIA the initial lead that led to the final location of Ladin.

Panetta’s CIA is believed to be in a revengeful mood to teach a lesson to the ISI and Gen Pasha for how they have been treating the CIA in the recent past. Pasha, who was seen by the Americans as “usually emotional”, as reflected by the recent disclosures of WikiLeaks, has been tough with the CIA in recent times. According to the latest media report, the CIA has sought from the ISI the details of all those ISI officials who have been interacting with the al-Qaeda members in the past. In case of Osama also though the ISI provided the lead, the CIA never shared with ISI the information as it later matured.

It is said that Pakistan Army and ISI’s reluctance to expand the military operations against militants beyond the tribal regions of South Waziristan into neighbouring North Waziristan was one of the contributing factors for the deterioration of US-CIA intelligence relationship but the sore point became the ISI’s refusal to dance to the CIA’s tunes.

The relationship between ISI and CIA hit a low point when the CIA was forced to withdraw its local chief in Pakistan late last year after his name was published in the Pakistani media. The CIA blamed ISI for this. Later, the tension grew further between the two after a CIA private contractor Raymond Davis was caught red-handed in a broad daylight cold-blooded murder of two Pakistanis in Lahore. Davis was put behind the bars despite American pressure for his immediate release for being a “diplomat”. Though Davis was later shamelessly released and handed over to the US following a major role reportedly played by the ISI, tensions between the ISI and CIA grew further reportedly after Gen Pasha insisted that all Davis-like CIA agents must wrap up and leave Pakistan.

Media reports though suggested that along with Raymond Davis dozens of undercover CIA operators were also made to pack up, the details of the quid pro quo over Davis’ release were never shared by the government, ISI or the army with the media.

Surprisingly the Raymond Davis’ release instead of improving relations between the CIA and the ISI brought them to all-time low.

After Raymond’s case the ISI reportedly asked CIA to disclose the location of its agents in Pakistan and share with the ISI the nature of their emplacement in Pakistan. After repeated questioning CIA kept denying that they have so many operatives in Pakistan.

In the recent past, spats between the ISI and the CIA got worsened when DG ISI went to USA for talks with the US officials including Panetta. He started with one point agenda that ISI will not support any CIA activity in Afghanistan or Pakistan if the CIA did not declare their operatives in Pakistan.

The ISI is said to have prepared the list of 438 US officials who were in Pakistan but were not part of any consulate or embassy staff in any city. Their whereabouts were asked from CIA, to which they gave the funny reply that many of them have been lost. The CIA, it is said, claimed that these operatives were used in FATA area for the war on terror but in various incidents they have either been kidnapped or killed by Taliban, so now they were no more in Pakistan.

“This stupid reply was totally non-digestible to DG ISI,” a source claimed, adding that in his concluding remarks the DG ISI gave a clear and stern reply to CIA officials that if they don’t know where their operatives were in Pakistan, then ISI was well aware of CIA operatives in the Middle East and we can tell those governments about their presence and activities. Panetta never expected such reply from Pasha.


The two reportedly were embroiled in heated arguments and it all ended up in Pasha returning to Pakistan from Washington within hours of his reaching there. Panetta was furious with Pasha, as he never thought that the intelligence chief of a country like Pakistan would confront the CIA chief this way. So he resolved to pin down Pasha and the ISI.

CIA increases pressure on Pasha to quit
 
What was ISI thinking when they let all those operatives inside?? I want to know what advantage US showed to Pakistan since it is widely known US does not have any permanent friends.

the article reads just like a triller fiction towards the end.
 
Why is Pakistan and US washing all their dirty linen in public? That is not how diplomacy is conducted. Makes for very sordid reading. All these guys should sit down and sort every thing out.
 
What was ISI thinking when they let all those operatives inside?? I want to know what advantage US showed to Pakistan since it is widely known US does not have any permanent friends.

the article reads just like a triller fiction towards the end.

dude the isi dint allow them
that cheap #@$%$ Haqqani (pak ambassador to us)
gave the visa without any confirmation from isi
 
They were ordered by Zardari and his traitorous henchman Hussain Haqqani, Pak ambassador to US, to bypass security checks.

Please dont tell us that that they were let inside INSPITE of ISI/PA protests and test our creduility.:disagree:
 
hahaha ISI and CIA finally after playing soo much game both infront of each other and passing statements blame on each other... as usual whole world is watching Pakistan American Cartoon Entertainment since last 10 years!
 
Pakistanis here claim that all good decisions are taken by ISI/Army and all bad decisions are taken by civilian gov :disagree:
 

I guess Paladin's reply in that thread negates that.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/strategic-geopolitical-issues/81512-pakistan-opens-its-door-us-ops.html#post1285669

And is not unusual for Pakistanis to praise the Army/ISI in case anything goes right and blame Zardari in case anything goes wrong. ISI is incompetent, we all know that, but not THIS incompetent that they will not monitor the arrivals :rolleyes:
 
dude the isi dint allow them
that cheap #@$%$ Haqqani (pak ambassador to us)
gave the visa without any confirmation from isi

ISI which is one of the largest intelligence agency in the world with over 10,000 agents cannot monitor visas issued for foreigners. Unbelievable!!!
 
Ansar Abbasi is an old ISI hand .Sure he wrote the column sitting in ISI office. ISI working hard to dispel the impression in the public that its getting ineffective on various fronts .
 
The real war here is between the ISI and the CIA
The CIA has been building up a spy network within Pakistan and the capture of Raymond Davis blew the lid off their activities in a very public way.
The ISI took the CIA to task and grinded them for over 3 months on this issue , eventually , for reasons best known to the decision makers , RD was let off the hook.
When RD was in custody, Leon Panetta came to ISB and barked at the Pakistan officials for arresting RD.
In the aftermath, the ISI clearly conveyed to the CIA that they have to reduce their presence inside Pakistan.
The above is what is clearly known and is info available in the public domain and form the above its clear that the CIA and the ISI are not seeing eye to eye because the CIA is involved in malicious activities within Pakistan, they are were caught snooping around in places for which there was no understanding between the ISI and the CIA.
I foresee the sustained and continued deterioration of relations between the two spy agencies which will ultimately lead to the ISI telling the CIA to OFF in very public manner.
 
I guess Paladin's reply in that thread negates that.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/strategic-geopolitical-issues/81512-pakistan-opens-its-door-us-ops.html#post1285669

And is not unusual for Pakistanis to praise the Army/ISI in case anything goes right and blame Zardari in case anything goes wrong. ISI is incompetent, we all know that, but not THIS incompetent that they will not monitor the arrivals :rolleyes:

Paladin expressed doubt that the story was true. However, like I said, the truth came out during Raymond Davis that the ISI had, in fact, been told to step aside for these visas.

ISI which is one of the largest intelligence agency in the world with over 10,000 agents cannot monitor visas issued for foreigners. Unbelievable

Visas normally undergo security check by ISI but, in this case, they were explicitly told to step aside and bypass security checks for these Americans.
 
Why would panetta want Pasha to go? With his incompetence the CIA is able to take a walk in Pakistan as though its a local park.

Pasha's first and foremost job should be to focus his agencies efforts into capturing EVERY rogue CIA agent within Pakistan.
 

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