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However, Political Islam is the dominant cultural force in the Muslim World today . . . its advocates do have a credible programme for Pakistan and they pose a real challenge to American hegemony. Pakistan is about to undergo a cultural transformation, which, gives the Pakistani people an opportunity to rid themselves of a bankrupt political system and assume autonomy over their affairs . . . Al-Qaeda and the Taliban will have a limited role in this process.
As a supporter of Pakistan and her people, you should welcome the prospect of a productive, accountable and dynamic political system in Islamabad !?

I will welcome it if people who want to shift the system in that direction can get elected in sufficient numbers through elections.

The Taliban are barbarians, and they claim Islam, so their Islam is an 'Islam of the barbarians', and regardless of whether your vision for a political system based on Islam gains any traction with the electorate, the barbarian criminals must be defeated.
 
Bajaur victims likely to shift Risalpur from Noshera

Updated at: 1600 PST, Monday, August 25, 2008
PESHAWAR: Authorities are mulling to shift Bajaur victims from Noshera relief camp to Benazir camp established in Risalpur to provide them better facilities.

Governor NWFP Owais Ahmad Ghani would take the final decision in this connection. Project director Red Crescent Pakistan Gohar Javed Chimkani told Geo News that in Benazir camp, victims would be provided rooms where clean drinking water and quality food would be provided.
http://thenews.com.pk/updates.asp?id=53126


Some other information provided by Go. Ghani on the IDP situation.
About the internally displaced people (IDPs) in the wake of Bajaur operation, he said a total of 263,000 migrated from the agency to the safer places in and around Peshawar and Dir district. He said the government had registered around 46,800 IDPs in the relief camps while the rest had taken shelter with their relatives.

He disclosed that 13,257 displaced people had returned to their native areas close to Khar, headquarter of Bajaur Agency, from where the militants had been flushed out. app

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan
 
I will welcome it if people who want to shift the system in that direction can get elected in sufficient numbers through elections.

The Taliban are barbarians, and they claim Islam, so their Islam is an 'Islam of the barbarians', and regardless of whether your vision for a political system based on Islam gains any traction with the electorate, the barbarian criminals must be defeated.


You won't find me arguing against the assertion that the Taliban are a pretty crude and ignorant bunch of obscurantists.

As for an Islamic political system gaining traction . . . it, already, has in Pakistan and in the Muslim World. Whats more, I doubt whether any credible Islamist outfit would participate in any existing political system because they are so discredited. The best endorsement for a new dispensation is the fact that it comes from the people and society . . . the grass-roots . . . from amongst the masses. It will not be tainted by the hands of the corrupt military top brass and the civilian political elites . . . who have their collective noses in the trough.
 
You won't find me arguing against the assertion that the Taliban are a pretty crude and ignorant bunch of obscurantists.

Glad to hear that.

As for an Islamic political system gaining traction . . . it, already, has in Pakistan and in the Muslim World. Whats more, I doubt whether any credible Islamist outfit would participate in any existing political system because they are so discredited. The best endorsement for a new dispensation is the fact that it comes from the people and society . . . the grass-roots . . . from amongst the masses. It will not be tainted by the hands of the corrupt military top brass and the civilian political elites . . . who have their collective noses in the trough.

That is fine - but if the masses are prepped for this change, then the problem is one of a lack of leadership in terms of establishing institutions/organizations that can participate in the existing process to move such change forward.

If people like the agenda promoted by individuals running for office, they will vote for them. The onus is on those who want this change to mobilize enough voters to bring that about.
 
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martialLAW, could you please elaborate a bit on this supposed Islamic political revolution? What will it entail and what will the power dynamic within the system be like?
 
Actually the mass evacuation seems to be a part of the government's plan. They are literally carpet bombing the bajaur agency. If there are nothing but bad people there, no harm done.

Huts can be rebuilt at any time.

Rehman Malik has been offered a peace deal this time from the TTP. However, he refused. The only peace deal he has put on the table is surrender.

Things will be violent at first but ultimately the TTP will run out of gas then either they surrender or die.
 
Err.. yes. Which is why everyone here has been pointing out that we need to ensure that the refugees are provided proper facilities and resources, and the operation be finished as soon as possible.

However, given the barbarity of the Taliban, the previous 'peace deals' that allowed the Taliban to continue to do whatever they wanted, and skepticism about the GoP's chances of success, it stands to reason that the people would want to hide opinions.

The people being non-committal is IMO a positive for the GoP - since the people fear the Taliban, and hence fear for their lives.

There are of course those as well who see nothing wrong with the Taliban, such as the man who said they were for peace, but I would argue that they remain in the minority, as shown by an opinion poll posted by Rabzon a few weeks ago.

Did I imply anything otherwise?

But you are missing the fact that this is a guerilla war, and not a conventional conflict.

This is guerrilla war... there is no finish. It fades away after burning itself up. The point that you miss out on is that no matter what you do, these people see themselves as "refugees."

Plus IDPs bring in distorted demographics, increased crime and unemployment... gain things which increase the anti-establishment feeling.

What Pakistan needs is boots on the ground in the ratio of 10:1 (at least)...
 
Actually the mass evacuation seems to be a part of the government's plan. They are literally carpet bombing the bajaur agency. If there are nothing but bad people there, no harm done.

Huts can be rebuilt at any time.

Rehman Malik has been offered a peace deal this time from the TTP. However, he refused. The only peace deal he has put on the table is surrender.

Things will be violent at first but ultimately the TTP will run out of gas then either they surrender or die.

This is the waning phase; you are hot after them and they are hiding. They'll come back and fight when you are cool.

Plus, those people who have been displaced see themselves as scape goats who are being punished for no apparent reason. The guerrillas will turn this into excellent PR (they have been doing a very good job up until now).
 
You won't find me arguing against the assertion that the Taliban are a pretty crude and ignorant bunch of obscurantists.

As for an Islamic political system gaining traction . . . it, already, has in Pakistan and in the Muslim World. Whats more, I doubt whether any credible Islamist outfit would participate in any existing political system because they are so discredited. The best endorsement for a new dispensation is the fact that it comes from the people and society . . . the grass-roots . . . from amongst the masses. It will not be tainted by the hands of the corrupt military top brass and the civilian political elites . . . who have their collective noses in the trough.

IMO the root cause of the problem remains the misconception that Pakistan should be a theocratic state. Founding fathers never had a desire to create a state run by the mullahs. Jamiat Ulema Hind, a Deobandi dominated mullah party realized this and therefore never supported Pakistan or the Quaid. Let us face the facts; after creation of Pakistan two nation theory became irrelevant. Seperation of East Pakistan as Bangla Desh in 1971 was the final nail in the coffin.

Pakistan’s' problems today are the creation of the bigot Zia and his morbid polices which resulted in mushrooming of Madrassahs, a breeding ground of the worst kind of sectarianism and extremists. Unless we get out this idiotic mind set of creating an imaginary orthodox Muslim state based on the barbaric Wahabi ideology, Pakistan is not going anywhere.

It is with regret that many of my otherwise well meaning countrymen are too naive to see beyond the veil of Wahabi Doctrine. Pakistan's problem is a lack of identity as Pakistani Nation and not any thing else. To those people who want to see Pakistan as Afghanistan was during the Taliban regime; I would say that you are working to destroy Pakistan.

During the glory days of Islam; the Umayyad Caliphate in Spain, Haroon and Maamoun Rashid of the Abbasids and Ottomans of 16th and 17th century; there was never a theocratic state. In fact the society was far more liberal than it is today. Moghuls of India were also very liberal in their outlook until Aurangzeb (much loved by the mullahs) but his policies resulted in the collapse of Mughal rule. Also look at the hypocrisy of that bigot; while he claimed to be an orthodox Sunni, he imprisons his father and kills off all of his brothers in the bargain.

I quote an excellent article published the Dawn of today which summarizes much what is wrong in Pakistan of today.



Ghosts of the past
By Dr Rubina Saigol


CONTEMPORARY Pakistan finds itself at the nexus of a number of intersecting conflicts that have generated unbridled violence across the length and breadth of the country.

The suicide bombing at the Pakistan Ordnance Factory was the continuation of a series of attacks on state institutions including the ISI, the SSG unit, the air force as well as civilian law-enforcement agencies such as the FIA building in Lahore.

News of bloodshed is splashed across the front pages of dailies from attacks on utility installations such as Sui gas pipelines in Balochistan to the regular bombing and torching of girls’ schools in Mingora, Swat, and other areas of Pakhtunkhwa. Added to these horrific news items are the almost daily attacks by Nato forces on the innocent people of Bajaur and other Fata areas from where populations are forced to flee and become displaced.

There is a virtual civil war going on between the security forces and militants, and among militants themselves, in Waziristan. A number of outfits such as Lashkar-i-Islam of Mangal Bagh and Amr Bil Maroof Wal Nahi Al-Munkar of the slain Haji Namdar have sprung up. Among all religio-militant contraptions, the biggest and most deadly by far are the Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan led by Baitullah Mehsud and Maulvi Omar and the revitalised Tehrik Nifaz-i-Shariat-i-Mohammadi.

Nobody knows which ones have been spawned by the spymasters themselves and which ones sprung up in resistance to US and Pakistani siege of the areas. Similarly, one hears whispers of the Balochistan National Army being active in the province with the backing of some powerful actors.

We need to understand our plight in a historical perspective. What we see all around us today is not a sudden or recent uprising but goes way back into the very process of the formation of our state in a communal split and the subsequent festering of wounds inflicted over years of insensitivity exhibited by a highly centralised state. As Pakistan emerged in the context of the divisive two-nation paradigm, the state came to be defined in religious terms early on in our history.

There were two major consequences of the birth of the country within a primarily religious idiom: 1) The state acquired a communal, religious and sectarian character which generated sectarian and religious violence; and 2) the overemphasis on religious identity excluded and denied the existence of older and more entrenched ethnic, linguistic and regional identities which were suppressed in the name of religious homogenisation.

Let us take the communalisation of the state first. As early as 1949 the Objectives Resolution was adopted which declared that sovereignty belongs to Allah and the religious and social system of Islam would be fully observed. In spite of serious objections raised by the minority members of the constituent assembly, the resolution was passed on the insistence of the Muslim members who took their cue from the two-nation concept.

In 1985, during Gen Zia’s Islamisation drive, Article 2-A was inserted into the constitution and the Objectives Resolution was made a substantive part of the constitution thereby making its provisions justiciable. At that time the minorities were deprived of the right to practise their religions freely as the word ‘freely’ was deleted.

The Afghan jihad, coupled with the Islamisation measures designed to legitimise Zia’s illegal rule, provided enormous impetus for the growth of madressahs supported by Saudi, US and Iranian funds. The greatest increase in religious parties was recorded between 1979 and 1990, and this is accounted for by the staggering rise in the number of sectarian outfits.

While jihad-related organisations doubled, there was a 90 per cent increase in sectarian parties. In the same period, religious seminaries began to proliferate in Pakistan. Prior to 1980, there were 700 religious schools in Pakistan and the annual rate of increase was three per cent.

By the end of 1986, the rate of increase of deeni madaris reached a phenomenal 136 per cent. By 2002, Pakistan had 7,000 institutions awarding higher degrees in religious teaching. The new schools were mostly set up in the Frontier province, southern Punjab and Karachi. Religious leaders were provided with economic incentives to create militants for the Afghan war.

The situation was now rife for sectarian conflict as arguments and interpretations of the ‘true’ meaning of an Islamic state became ubiquitous. In Punjab, 1994 was one of the worst years in terms of sectarian killing when 73 people were killed and many more wounded. In the latter half of 1996, sectarian violence in Parachinar and part of the Kurrram Agency claimed hundreds of lives. In March 2004, unidentified gunmen opened fire on an Ashura procession in Quetta killing over 40 people and injuring scores of others. Sectarian violence escalated in Oct 2004 when on Oct 1 29 people were killed in an imambargah in Sialkot. On Oct 7, a bomb explosion in Multan killed 40 people in a mosque while three days later a blast ripped through a Shia mosque in Lahore killing four people. The latest was in Dera Ismail Khan where a hospital full of Shia mourners was attacked.

Another major consequence of a state emerging within a religious theory was that Pakistan failed to evolve a viable federal structure. Religious nationalism became a centralising force and the unique identities of ethnic minorities came to be denied or erased because of the promotion of an overriding religious identity. As early as 1963 Ayub Khan declared that “I do hope that in a few decades, which is not a long time in the history and progress of nations, our people will forget to think in terms of Punjabi, Pathan, Sindhi, Balochi and Bengali and think of themselves as Pakistanis only … our religion, our ideology, our common background, our aims and ambitions unite us more firmly than any geographical boundaries could have.”

The denial of the rights of smaller provinces in recognition of language, NFC award, royalties or water share led to various conflicts one after another which culminated in East Pakistan’s secession and ensuing resistance movements in Balochistan, Fata and Sindh. In 1970-71 the state was locked in a power struggle against the Bengalis, in the mid-1970s against the Baloch, in the 1980s against the Sindhis during the MRD movement and in the early 1990s against Urdu-speaking migrants from India.

An over-centralised state, dominated by one ethnic group along with a powerful army and bureaucracy drawn primarily from one or two ethnic groups, drew its ideological inspiration from religious nationalism to create a false sense of unity. The foundational paradigm of the state’s emergence ironically created existential crises for it, as the founding theory blew up in its face and its repressive response simply added fuel to the fire of ethnic disaffection. Today its own policies have come back to haunt the state.

DAWN - Editorial; August 28, 2008
 
Pakistan revives Afghan camps for its own people

Sun Nov 23, 2008 1:22am EST
By Zeeshan Haider

KACHAGARI, Pakistan, Nov 23 (Reuters) - Pakistan has reopened camps originally set up in the 1980s for Afghans who fled the Soviet occupation to provide shelter for those made homeless by offensives against Islamist militants on its northwest border.

"I never thought I would become a refugee in my own country. Never ever," Ghulam Ahmed told Reuters at Kachagari camp on the outskirts of the city of Peshawar.

Grey-bearded, illiterate, with no idea of his age, Ahmed said he could only hope it was a bad dream as he sat atop a pile of blankets grabbed from relief workers for his family of eight.

A few years back, authorities began dismantling camps in and around Peshawar in a bid to persuade the Afghans to go home.

Peshawar had been a focal point for Muslim volunteers for the guerrilla war, covertly funded by the United States and Saudi Arabia, to drive the Soviet Union out of Afghanistan.

But the refugee camps later served as breeding grounds for Islamist militants who joined the Taliban and other groups to keep the cycle of violence spinning in Afghanistan. But in recent years the conflict zone has spread to Pakistan's tribal lands.

Kachagari, near the Khyber tribal region, was closed for Afghan refugees last year.

Bulldozers destroyed the mud-walled homes the Afghans had built to replace the original tents.

Today in Kachagari, more than 1,700 tents, each meant for a family of six, have been pitched in the dusty earth among the ruins of the deserted Afghan homes.

The camp was only reopened on Sept. 28 and it now hosts more than 11,000 people, mostly from the Bajaur tribal region where a military offensive began in August to clear out Taliban, al Qaeda and other militant groups.

The military says more than 1,500 militants have been killed while 73 soldiers have also died in fighting in Bajaur since August, though no independent verification of casualties is available.

Unlike past offensives, the military has relied heavily on air power to push back the Islamist guerrillas.

DESTITUTE AND DESPERATE

At the entrance of Kachagari, two hospitals built with Saudi aid for Afghan refugees have been converted to offices for the camp management.

Scores of tribesmen jostled for food, blankets, tents and cooking oil supplied by U.N. and other aid agencies.

"I had my own grocery shop in Bajaur. I had some agricultural land. I was not that poor," Ahmed said.

Security guards brandished batons to restore order among the desperate men.

Nearby, dirty-faced children, some without any trousers, played in the dust, oblivious of what was happening around.

"This is now our fate. It happens here daily," said 25-year-old Aslam Khan, as he watched the miserable scene.

The U.N. refugee agency, UNHCR, is providing non-food items such as tents, blankets, sleeping mattresses and kitchen kits. It also provided funds for levelling the ground to set up the camp.

UNICEF has set up latrines, provided drinking water, and opened makeshift schools.

Kilian Kleinschmidt, Assistant Representative of the UNHCR, said U.N. aid agencies launched an appeal for $54 million under their Humanitarian Response Plan in September to help these displaced people.

He said only around half the amount had been received.

However, he said, they planned to revise the appeal in view of the growing numbers of people fleeing the conflict zones.

Klienschmidt said nearly 35,000 displaced people had been registered in two camps in Kachagari and seven other camps elsewhere in the northwest.

"By mid-December, we expect up to 70,000 people will be in these camps," he added.

Jalozai, one of the oldest camps east of Peshawar, was closed this year. It will be reopened on Tuesday, Klienschmidt said.

WIDENING CONFLICT ZONE

Besides Bajaur, security forces are battling militants in nearby Swat Valley.

Pakistani officials anticipate that a crackdown will be launched next in Mohmand tribal region neighbouring Bajaur.

Social scientists say the longer people stay in these camps, the greater the risk becomes that jobless young men will turn to crime and militancy.

"Many of these people are poor. The first and foremost thing for them is to survive and because of this they are more prone to get into militancy," said Johar Ali, a professor of sociology at the University of Peshawar.

One American aid worker and his driver were gunned down and an Iranian diplomat was kidnapped and his guard was killed in Peshawar this month. Afghanistan's ambassador-designate was kidnapped from the city in September.

Kleinschmidt said security in these camps was a major concern for aid agencies.

"We need to ensure that the camps remain safe and the people there understand that it's not acceptable that ... they involve in any (other) activities." (Editing by Simon Cameron-Moore and Bill Tarrant)
 
Pakistan fighting could uproot 600,000 people - U.N.
Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:54pm IST

By Laura MacInnis

GENEVA, Feb 10 (Reuters) - Fierce fighting in Pakistan's border area with Afghanistan could soon drive more than 600,000 people from their homes, the United Nations refugee agency (UNHCR) said on Tuesday.

Spokesman Ron Redmond said the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees will ramp up its relief work in northwestern Pakistan, where security has deteriorated sharply since last year.

"Latest estimates put the number of displaced people in the region at around 450,000, but the U.N. believes more than 600,000 could be displaced within weeks,"
he told a news briefing in Geneva, where the UNHCR has its headquarters.

Trucks carrying blankets, buckets, plastic sheeting, soap, and kitchen sets have been deployed to the region to help an initial 3,000 families, and U.N.-run camps in the area will be expanded to provide shelter to more people.

"UNHCR is encouraged by the safe arrival and return of the first U.N. convoy of supplies to this dangerous region of Pakistan where curfews and general insecurity hamper relief efforts," Redmond said.

Pakistan is under intense pressure to do more to tackle militant sanctuaries in its Swat valley, which not long ago was a prime tourist destination and is now virtually under the control of the Taliban.

U.S.-led forces in Afghanistan are struggling to stem intensifying Taliban violence, most of which, they believe, emanates from the Pakistani side of the border.

Redmond said the UNHCR had no news about the fate of the American head of its office in the southwest Pakistani city of Quetta, John Solecki, who was abducted last week after gunmen ambushed his car and shot dead his driver.

He said security officials were continuing to investigate a claim from the Baluchistan Liberation United Front group, a previously unknown group, which had said it kidnapped Solecki to draw attention to the "plight" of the Baluchi people.

Separatist militants have fought a low-scale insurgency for decades in Baluchistan, the largest but most thinly populated of Pakistan's four provinces. They want greater political and economic rights for ethnic Baluch, who believe the rest of Pakistan is exploiting their mineral and oil and gas resources. (Editing by Charles Dick)
Pakistan fighting could uproot 600,000 people - U.N. | Reuters
 
This is a humanitarian disaster far worse than anything seen in the subcontinent since, say the Bangladesh situation in 1971 or perhaps the LTTE situation in Sri Lanka.
 
I have seen those vedeos where people are coming out from swat in a mass number..I think a week ago..in some news channel..It is allready started to affect the people..
 
This is a humanitarian disaster far worse than anything seen in the subcontinent since, say the Bangladesh situation in 1971 or perhaps the LTTE situation in Sri Lanka.

I don't think this comes even close to the Earthquake disaster, but yes, it is a major humanitarian problem, especially given the historic inefficiency of the GoP.
 
I think conceptually MartialLaw has valid points, few so called intellectuals, though it looks like they are also not in Pakistan and do not have any idea of ground reality going mad against him.
MartialLaw is in UK and you are in India, so how do you become expperts on ground realities of Pakistan??

This is simply true that military operation against own people can never solve problems, generally own people take guns in hand due to political reasons and their problems can only be solved politically.

What is happening in Pakistan (mass suicide bombing etc.) is outcome of 9 years military Raj and military is not going to solve the issue rather make the whole situation worse. ...

Why not try this in the Indian occupied Kashmir, Assam and many othe rplaces in India where militants are trying to achieve their goals?

I want to just point out one thing here how great members of this forum having completely opposite view to general public of Pakistan, example when Musharraf resigned we were really sad but general people in Pakistan celebrated it. I afraid this due difference between class and mass...

Were you in Pakistan when Musharraf resigned? Mate you are watching too much GEO TV ... Thanks for the suggestions and comments, may be you sould send same suggestion to the GoI.
 

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