Should India and Bangladesh form a security alliance?

[Mo12]

Since India surrounds Bangladesh from all 3 sides and has good relationship with Bangladesh, should India sign a treaty with Bangladesh to protect it from external threats?

Its good for Bangladesh because it can become more economy focused and become a good import/export market for Indian companies and the people but it will lose its sovereignty.

Its good for India because India currently has military infrastructure in the region and in the India ocean but it will cost India money.

Think like USA-Japan relationship

 

[Shankranthi]

Since India and Bangladesh surrounds Bangladesh from all 3 sides and has good relationship with Bangladesh, should India sign a treaty with Bangladesh to protect it from external threats?

Its good for Bangladesh because it can become more economy focused and become a good import/export market for Indian companies and the people but it will lose its sovereignty.

Its good for India because India currently has military infrastructure in the region and in the India ocean but it will cost India money.

Think like USA-Japan relationship

You answered your own question.

"India and Bangladesh surrounds Bangladesh from all 3 sides"

So an alliance against Who ? Bangladesh is more safer than Canada. (as long as they stay inside BD and the floods don't kill them). Its literally the safest country in the world from external attack.

 

[Mo12]

You answered your own question.

"India and Bangladesh surrounds Bangladesh from all 3 sides"

So an alliance against Who ? Bangladesh is more safer than Canada. (as long as they stay inside BD and the floods don't kill them). Its literally the safest country in the world from external attack.

Yes but why would Bangladesh spend billions on defence deals to defend itself from other nations? Signing a security alliance will help.

 

[hussain0216]

Whose going to defend them against India

It would be bettet if they had a independent defence policy to protect themselves from all threats mainly india or burma

They might not be big enough to match india but they can build a powerful deterrent against any misadventure by india or anyone else

 

[Shankranthi]

Yes but why would Bangladesh spend billions on defence deals to defend itself from other nations? Signing a security alliance will help.

The same reason Canada spends Billions of $. Better safe than sorry.

On a different note, BD as alliance partners will never be reliable.

There are multiple lessons in history about making defence alliance with Islamic armies. End of the day, Islam will always triumph over common sense.

 

[Indika]

Yes but why would Bangladesh spend billions on defence deals to defend itself from other nations? Signing a security alliance will help.

Yes it might help , but given the attitude of ppl on other side to harm us and past record we should avoid it. Should be on look out on our own. If relations continue to be normal for another 20 years then we can think of it.

As you said it will certainly help bangladesh by cutting down on defence which can be spent on poor. On Indian side they should ensure no terrorist havens get created in bangladesh.

More than a security alliance even a normal relation like of nordic countries have will go a long way in making the subcontinent a better place to live.

 

[Shankranthi]

Yes it might help , but given the attitude of ppl on other side to harm us and past record we should avoid it. Should be on look out on our own. If relations continue to be normal for another 20 years then we can think of it.

As you said it will certainly help bangladesh by cutting down on defence which can be spent on poor. On Indian side they should ensure no terrorist havens get created in bangladesh.

More than a security alliance even a normal relation like of nordic countries have will go a long way in making the subcontinent a better place to live.

Even after 20 years any alliance with them will be on a slippery slope.

Look at the uneasy relationship between US/NATO and Turkey. ........ in the end 'islam' will always triumph. That is the nature of the beast. Its pointless to defy nature.

 

[Anubis]

Yes but why would Bangladesh spend billions on defence deals to defend itself from other nations? Signing a security alliance will help.

They only way any country could attack Bangladesh(except for Myanmar) would be to use Indian airspace,your waters or your land(Bypassing the massive area of India would require such military logistics that few country possess and they have no reason to attack Bangladesh anyway)...if the relation between BD and India deteriorates to that level that you let those countries come here than a security alliance would be pointless anyway...a security alliance comes with strings attached which wont be worth it for Bangladesh considering the importance of China in our economy.

 

[Mo12]

The same reason Canada spends Billions of $. Better safe than sorry.

On a different note, BD as alliance partners will never be reliable.

There is multiple lessons in history about making defence alliance with Islamic armies. End of the day, Islam will always triumph over common sense.

True but USA indirectly protects Canada via NATO membership. Also all of Canada military equipment is mainly from USA. Canada has military equipment to help USA on adventures abroad.

But agree religion fanatics in Bangladesh will never let this happen I guess.

 

[Shankranthi]

True but USA indirectly protects Canada via NATO membership. Also all of Canada military equipment is mainly from USA. Canada has military equipment to help USA on adventures abroad.

But agree religion fanatics in Bangladesh will never let this happen I guess.

Canada was part of NATO because of threat from Russia which was its neighbour. (Russia used to own Alaska) More importantly both US and Canada are christian nations, both are predominantly "White" nations.

BD has no such threat.

 

[Indika]

.if the relation between BD and India deteriorates to that level

Well thats the key point , why would it deteriorate? I dont think India will allow any foreign troop movement on its soil or water. Thats not even fiction. India wont even allow russia or US for that matter of fact. India is a power on its own which can say no , unlike pakistan which capitulated on afghanistan.

Which country do you think bangladesh might get into war (other than India & myanmar)? Even during heights of khaleda's ant-India govt when BD was providing arms & safe havens to terrorist groups India did not attack bangladesh.

There will be strings in security alliance like for India & USA. But not for India & BD , it will be like US & Canada. Any damage to one of them , will impact other. Each side will be vary of that and not allow things to go out of control. The only question , is the subcontinent ready for that?

Canada was part of NATO because of threat from Russia which was its neighbour. (Russia used to own Alaska) More importantly both US and Canada are christian nations, both are predominantly "White" nations.

BD has no such threat.

US & Canada are smart countries the relationship between them is bereft of pettiness that is typical to subcontinent. By having such an arrangement they are actually saving ton of money and also better economic benefits to its citizen.

 

[bongbang]

BD and India can form a security alliance in Indian NE (excluding disputed territories) and give protection to all kinds of people living there as long as needed. Also they can secure areas in Myanmar's Arakan from where humanitarian crisis occurring and refugees flooding both in India and BD.

 

[Nilgiri]

True but USA indirectly protects Canada via NATO membership. Also all of Canada military equipment is mainly from USA. Canada has military equipment to help USA on adventures abroad.

But agree religion fanatics in Bangladesh will never let this happen I guess.

Can we talk about this after both countries have gotten past 10,000 per capita GDP?

Thanks.

 

[Shankranthi]

Well thats the key point , why would it deteriorate? I dont think India will allow any foreign troop movement on its soil or water. Thats not even fiction. India wont even allow russia or US for that matter of fact. India is a power on its own which can say no , unlike pakistan which capitulated on afghanistan.

Which country do you think bangladesh might get into war (other than India & myanmar)? Even during heights of khaleda's ant-India govt when BD was providing arms & safe havens to terrorist groups India did not attack bangladesh.

There will be strings in security alliance like for India & USA. But not for India & BD , it will be like US & Canada. Any damage to one of them , will impact other. Each side will be vary of that and not allow things to go out of control. The only question , is the subcontinent ready for that?

No, he is partially right. An alliance does come with strings attached and BD will never approve strings from a Hindu majority India.

The demands of an alliance will drag BD into a war if ever India goes to war with someone else. BD will have to offer their manpower etc for that war effort.

A large part of BD will like nothing better than to watch Hindu majority India suffer. Its like Mexico and US. Mexicans love to jump into the US but hate Americans.

US & Canada are smart countries the relationship between them is bereft of pettiness that is typical to subcontinent. By having such an arrangement they are actually saving ton of money and also better economic benefits to its citizen.

You couldn't be more wrong.

Canada actively supported "Khalistan" during the cold war. Why do you there are so many Sikhs in Canada ? other Indians were not given such easy citizenship in the past.

Their government actively plotted the kanishka bombing.

Religion and culture binds people and they have an invisible influence on behaviour. I just stated aloud what remains unsaid most of the time.

The only economic benefit to Canada is defence of is oil resources and gas resource due to NATO.

 

[Indika]

No, he is partially right. An alliance does come with strings attached and BD will never approve strings from a Hindu majority India.

The demands of an alliance will drag BD into a war if ever India goes to war with someone else. BD will have to offer their manpower etc for that war effort.

A large part of BD will like nothing better than to watch Hindu majority India suffer. Its like Mexico and US. Mexicans love to jump into the US but hate Americans.

Look it depends on what you define as strings, normal economic issues are also/always present btw US & Canada. But maturity to address them without resorting to pettiness is what differentiates between us & them. BD need not provide manpower or equipment , just staying neutral and not hosting anti -india elements or activities is good enuf.