To the Greeks.

[Sinnerman108]

Greeks laid the foundation of what is now the western civilization, modern
way of philosophy above other contributions to humanity.

Ancient Greeks were polytheistic and had an amazing array of Gods and Goddesses
much alike the human society. They had devised a hierarchy among the Gods
and divided responsibility.

So when Maximus Greekus, a farmer was praying that he had a great yield for his
wheat crop, he wasn't possibly aware of the complex working that will yield the same.

He would pray to Demeter, the Goddess of harvest and fertility for a bountiful crop.
On the back end, it will start with Apollo, who will have to ensure enough sunlight.

Secondly it will go to Poseidon, that Greek God of seas, to allow enough water be evaporated
when Apollo was allowing enough sunlight.

Thirdly it will require Athena and Hermes to work in tandem to ensure that commerce is
A OK, and the farmer does his job wisely.

Fourthly it will require Hestia and Hephaestus to work in tandem with each other, and
the aforementioned Gods at the right time and sequence to ensure Maximus got what he wanted.

The above also means that the Gods had to work always in tandem, upon acceptance of
any request by any one of them. This also implies that the individual Gods would thus
not possess free will, and must acknowledge other Gods, or work together at a Senior
God (Zeus's) plan.

Which begs the question, then why not cut the middlemen and get to Zeus direct ?
How would free will work in a pagan setup ?
and how would this fit logically.

@padamchen comment doc.

 

[W.11]

Greeks laid the foundation of what is now the western civilization

i dont think this notion is perticularly true, the ''western civilization'' rather owes its emergence to chrisitianity and probably also the information exchange with the muslims and not perticularly, the greeks.

regards

 

[Bouncer]

i dont think this notion is perticularly true, the ''western civilization'' rather owes its emergence to chrisitianity and probably also the information exchange with the muslims and not perticularly, the greeks.

Are you referring to the current and ongoing rise of Western civilization? Because Romans were pretty swell before Christianity and their decline arguably coincides with their acceptance of it. They learnt a lot from the Greeks so OP may not be entirely wrong here.

 

[W.11]

there was no roman empire during the rise of ''western europe'' which is actually the one referred to as ''western civilization'', their rise coincided with the golden age of islam and middle east, much of the greek elements are transmitted through muslims themselves, and the rest of it was preserved by the christian church. This only shows that the rise of western civilization was far removed from the date of roman empire collapse, some italian renaissance scholars did try to revive the elements of the roman era culture but the renaissance was hardly the handiwork and direct influence of the roman period, the classical greek literary traditions hardly survived during roman era itself.

regards

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Greeks laid the foundation of what is now the western civilization

This is a myth that was constructed post reformation and really was consolidated in 1800s Europe. Ancient Greece was more part of the West Asia then Europe. Greece, Anatolia, Persia-Iran, Levant [Syria, Lebnon, Palestine] and North Africa [Egypt,Libya].

This is a myth that was constructed post reformation and really was consolidated in 1800s Europe. Ancient Greece was more part of the West Asia then Europe. Greece, Anatolia, Persia-Iran, Levant [Syria, Lebnon, Palestine] and North Africa [Egypt,Libya].

Indeed Ancient Pakistan had more connections with Ancient Greece then most of Europe. Greek rule and Greek cities from Alexander onwards in Pakistan are testimony to that.

 

[Yankee-stani]

This is a myth that was constructed post reformation and really was consolidated in 1800s Europe. Ancient Greece was more part of the West Asia then Europe. Greece, Anatolia, Persia-Iran, Levant [Syria, Lebnon, Palestine] and North Africa [Egypt,Libya].

Indeed Ancient Pakistan had more connections with Ancient Greece then most of Europe. Greek rule and Greek cities from Alexander onwards in Pakistan are testimony to that.

1800s Anglos Saxons taking Western Asian philosophy as usual larpings

 

[Sinnerman108]

I'm surprised, we are not discussing the argument.