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Watch "Gen. (Rtd) Kishan Pal accept that India lost Kargil War" on YouTube

Whatever dude, I'm asking you to substantiate your claim that Pak won. But there was no land gain, whatever be the reason. You lost and were humiliated. All you are doing was jumping up and down for the death of soldiers. Well, that still doesn't change the fact you lost. EU and US asked you to back off, including the G8 countries asked you to scram.

Keep spinning some stories like that.

If slaughtering thousands of bharti occupier terrorists is humiliation then may Pakistan get more such humiliations.:lol:

Pakistan still hold the main peak post today, that oversees all indian posts as well as the strategic highway where the logistics goes to all these posts and siachen. Pakistan gained something that it didn't had. Pakistan only withdrew because of N.S h@r@31 pan, it was diplomatic defeat but militarily victory.
 
Pakistan still hold the main peak post today,
Yeah, but they dare drop a boot. Stay there.
Pakistan only withdrew because of N.S h@r@31 pan, it was diplomatic defeat but militarily victory.
Yeah, getting killed by avalanches was a great victory. Infiltrating few loonies was a big victory. No wonder they threw out your rubbish and ordered, go back to where you come from. Whatever Sharif did is in accordance with diplomatic pressure.
While fuel was running out and based on your governments accounts, only 6 days of fuel was left. And the infiltrators are killed off like flies in the border. Claim all victory you want. Doesn't change the reality that you lost both militarily and diplomatically. Find happiness in the bones thrown by a nobody in here.
 
Yeah, but they dare drop a boot. Stay there.

Yeah, getting killed by avalanches was a great victory. Infiltrating few loonies was a big victory. No wonder they threw out your rubbish and ordered, go back to where you come from. Whatever Sharif did is in accordance with diplomatic pressure.
While fuel was running out and based on your governments accounts, only 6 days of fuel was left. And the infiltrators are killed off like flies in the border. Claim all victory you want. Doesn't change the reality that you lost both militarily and diplomatically. Find happiness in the bones thrown by a nobody in here.

Yes, Pakistan will when it suits it's interests. Matter of fact, everyday the bullets enter your occupier's body. Stop it if you can.

Lol, avalanches? Wtf are you smoking dude? It was Pakistan who slaughtered bharti occupiers. And of course sharif did in diplomatic pressure because he was a politician who bows to foreigners. He took $$ in return of withdrawl, otherwise Pakistan Military has no plans to leave, even Musharraf spend days and nights with soldiers in Kargil. Instead of supporting military, sharif sacked the chief of the military forces and took command and withdrew forces. And fuel might be running low on papers, but everyone knows Pakistan was receiving discounted fuel supplies from Saudi Arabia and Iran.
 
Yes, Pakistan will when it suits it's interests. Matter of fact, everyday the bullets enter your occupier's body. Stop it if you can.

Lol, avalanches? Wtf are you smoking dude? It was Pakistan who slaughtered bharti occupiers. And of course sharif did in diplomatic pressure because he was a politician who bows to foreigners. He took $$ in return of withdrawl, otherwise Pakistan Military has no plans to leave, even Musharraf spend days and nights with soldiers in Kargil. Instead of supporting military, sharif sacked the chief of the military forces and took command and withdrew forces. And fuel might be running low on papers, but everyone knows Pakistan was receiving discounted fuel supplies from Saudi Arabia and Iran.
So, nobody died on your side I guess. Well, not that you recognize, you shamelessly called your army men Mujahiddheens and denied their rights. Anyway, I think you should read more instead of thinking of what I smoke. IAF did a pretty nice job in smoking those rats out of the peaks. The infiltrators were captured or killed. And with the help of Pak forces, who killed their own soldiers in friendly artillery fire (LOL) we were able to secure more than 60% of the land which was illegally captured by fake Muj scumbags. And the inability of PAF to actually engage Indian Air Force made things easier for us.

Mainly because you were in denial of army involvement. So, we were free to bomb our side of the LOC. Now how do you think you couldn't hold on to your own position?
I should say it was a well executed military action, and it could've been a success if it turned out to be a full-fledged war. But that didn't happen so, I guess your failure was two, you didn't declare war, and you were humiliated diplomatically. Every other country condemned your act, EU, ASEAN, G8.
 
Your military was outsmarted and outgunned by a significantly smaller force. A small force of Pakistani irregulars had the mighty Indian military war machine on it's knees crying for help. How much more humiliating could that be?
No one won or lost, but Pakistan was definitely very successful and inflicted much more damage to the enemy. If the NLI had more support, especially from NS's government of that time - we would've seen permanent success.
Cuckoo talk
Pak lost 2,700 men in Kargil war: Sharif

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/pakistan/Pak-lost-2700-men-in-Kargil-war-Sharif/articleshow/1711896.cms
 
So, nobody died on your side I guess. Well, not that you recognize, you shamelessly called your army men Mujahiddheens and denied their rights. Anyway, I think you should read more instead of thinking of what I smoke. IAF did a pretty nice job in smoking those rats out of the peaks. The infiltrators were captured or killed. And with the help of Pak forces, who killed their own soldiers in friendly artillery fire (LOL) we were able to secure more than 60% of the land which was illegally captured by fake Muj scumbags. And the inability of PAF to actually engage Indian Air Force made things easier for us.

Mainly because you were in denial of army involvement. So, we were free to bomb our side of the LOC. Now how do you think you couldn't hold on to your own position?
I should say it was a well executed military action, and it could've been a success if it turned out to be a full-fledged war. But that didn't happen so, I guess your failure was two, you didn't declare war, and you were humiliated diplomatically. Every other country condemned your act, EU, ASEAN, G8.

You certainly are smoking something that have the ability to paralyze your logical part. It was only indians who were calling those liberators as Pakistanis when in reality they were made up of Kashmiri civilians. To hide their incompetance, your army was shamelessly declaring them Pakistani regulars. And lol, IAF rats were blown out of skies. It was IAF's intrusion into Gilgit Baltistan that made Pakistan respond and in an instance your 2 IAF jets were knocked out. You can be happy with whatever you believe but the fact is that you have more casualties than even 71 which was full blown war. The reality won't change by your lies and propaganda, and the reality is that Pakistan Army created new rivers which were made up of indian occupier terrorists blood. You were being slaughtered left and right. Your National Highway became a highway to h3ll.

And yes due to incompetent rulers such as N.S h@r@31, Pakistan lost badly on diplomatic front, even after NLI's brave fight and sacrifices, which made them control the region. It was also the $$ factor where N.S sold himself to Clinton.
 
As I have said, Nawaz Sharif did not even know about the war till the last minute; what he said was to discredit Musharraf.
You certainly are smoking something that have the ability to paralyze your logical part. It was only indians who were calling those liberators as Pakistanis when in reality they were made up of Kashmiri civilians. To hide their incompetance, your army was shamelessly declaring them Pakistani regulars. And lol, IAF rats were blown out of skies. It was IAF's intrusion into Gilgit Baltistan that made Pakistan respond and in an instance your 2 IAF jets were knocked out. You can be happy with whatever you believe but the fact is that you have more casualties than even 71 which was full blown war. The reality won't change by your lies and propaganda, and the reality is that Pakistan Army created new rivers which were made up of indian occupier terrorists blood. You were being slaughtered left and right. Your National Highway became a highway to h3ll.


Eleven years after the Kargil war, the Pakistan Army has quietly included the names of 453 soldiers and officers who were killed during the conflict on its website.

The 453 Pakistani soldiers are shown as killed in the Batalik-Kargil sector in Jammu and Kashmir.

The names of those who died in Kargil are tucked away in a list of thousands of personnel killed while on duty posted in the “Shuhada's Corner” (Martyrs Corner) of the website.


Pakistan lists Kargil war dead
http://www.thehindu.com/news/international/Pakistan-lists-Kargil-war-dead/article15691427.ece
 
That's nothing.
We got Peak 5310 on the Pakistani side of LoC just after Kargil war and captured Peak 5770 from Pakistan Army during Kargil war which is the highest peak in Siachen sector.

In the mid 90s, we captured the massive Anzbari feature on the Pakistani side of LoC in Kanzalwan sector when your Kayani was sector commander and returned it only after Pakistan accepted our terms in the area.
Later we captured the same feature permanently during the Kargil War.

Multiple ID rat is back. Ban him and delete all his posts

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