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Will India and China fight a war again?

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Most Indians rightly see the 1962 war between India and China, and a relatively small military defeat and the major national panic that followed, as a cathartic event. While 1962 will still be the seminal year for Sino-Indian relations, it is in 1967 that Indian and Chinese troops last clashed — at Nathu La. Since then, not a shot has been fired across the border.

Nathu La at 14,200 feet is an important pass on the Tibet-Sikkim border through which passes the old Gangtok-Yatung-Lhasa trade route. Although the Sikkim-Tibet boundary is well defined, China never accepted Sikkim as an Indian protectorate with its army deployed there. During the 1965 India-Pakistan war, China gave an ultimatum to India to vacate both Nathu La and Jelep La passes on the Sikkim-Tibet border. Inexplicably, India’s 17 Mountain Division vacated Jelep La. It still remains with China.

At the time of the 1967 clash, India’s 2 Grenadiers held Nathu La. This battalion was under the command of Lt Col (later Brigadier) Rai Singh. The battalion was under the Mountain Brigade commanded by Brig M.M.S. Bakshi, MVC.

According to a young Indian officer, the routine at Nathu La started with patrolling by both sides along the perceived border, almost always leading to arguments. The only one on the Chinese side who could converse in broken English was the political commissar. Sentries of both forces would stand barely one meter apart in the centre of the Pass.

Arguments between the two sides soon changed to pushing and shoving. On Sep 6, 1967, a scuffle took place. In order to de-escalate the situation, the Indian military decided to lay a wire in the centre of the Pass from Nathu La to Sebu La to demarcate the perceived border. This task was to be carried out by the 70 Field Company of Engineers assisted by a company of 18 Rajput. It was to begin Sep 11.

Under a bright morning sun, engineers and soldiers started erecting long iron pickets from Nathu La to Sebu La while 2 Grenadiers and Artillery Observation Post Officers at Sebu La and Camel’s Back were on alert. Immediately, the Chinese commissar came to the centre of the Pass.

The commissar asked Lt. Col. Rai Singh to stop laying the wire. Orders to the Indian Army were clear. They were not to blink. An argument soon built up into a scuffle. In the melee, the commissar got roughed up. Thereafter the Chinese went back to their bunkers. Engineers resumed laying the wire.

Within minutes, a whistle was heard on the Chinese side followed by murderous medium machine gun fire. Jawans of 70 Field Company and 18 Rajput were caught in the open and suffered heavy casualties. Col Rai Singh was wounded. Two brave officers, Capt Dagar of 2 Grenadiers and Major Harbhajan Singh of 18 Rajput, rallied a few troops and tried to assault the Chinese MMG but both died a heroic death.

2 Grenadier opened small arms fire but it was not very effective. Within the first 10 minutes, there were nearly 70 dead and scores wounded in the open on the pass. Within half hour, Chinese artillery opened up on the pass as well as in the depth areas but it failed to do much damage due to lack of observation.

The Indians sought artillery fire. Because of excellent domination and observation from Sebu La and Camel’s Back, the officer say, artillery fire was most effective. Most Chinese bunkers were destroyed and the Chinese suffered very heavy casualties that by their own estimates were over 400. The artillery duel carried on day and night.

For the next three days, the Chinese were taught a lesson. On Sep 14, the Chinese threatened use of air force if shelling did not stop. By then, the lesson had been driven home and an uneasy ceasefire came about.

The Chinese, true to form, pulled over dead bodies to their side of the perceived border at night and accused India of violating the border. Dead bodies were exchanged Sep 15 in the presence of, among others, Lt. Gen. Jagjit Aurora and Lt. Gen. Sam Maneckshaw, the Eastern Army Commander.

On Oct 1, 1967, this event repeated itself at Cho La when 7/11 Gurkha Rifles and 10 JAK Rifles were tested by the People’s Liberation Army and similarly not found wanting. The lesson of 1967 has been well learnt by China, just as the lesson of 1962 has been absorbed by India. Not a single shot has been fired across the border since then. Today the Indian Army and PLA stand eyeball to eyeball but the atmosphere is far more relaxed and the two armies frequently have friendly interactions.

http://zeenews.india.com/news/nation/will-india-and-china-fight-a-war-again_801878.html
 
If you want a war,then there will be a war。
 
Indians and Pakistanis love reminiscing about wars which were fought in the 60's and 70's etc. The current global situation has changed since those years. At the time of these skirmishes, the USA was involved in a full blown conflict in Vietnam which was backed by China. Today Vietnam is an ally of the USA and is showing hostility to China. At the time of these skirmishes, India and China were just two population bloated nations which were regarded as thrashcans by the rest of the world. Today they are globally economic leaders. Whatever makes you think that some insignificant skirmish which occurred in the 60's is the goalpost for a future war between India and China despite both nations understanding that such a war will only result in a massive depression of their economies? The fact is that the war is now being fought on the stock exchanges between these two nations.
 
If you want a war,then there will be a war。
Why would we want war with you ? You are our trade partner will billions of dollars worth exchange and the trade deficit is India's

Our focus is increasing our economic strength and making it as our weapon just like you did. Once you reached to good economic condition , you poured billions in every field science, technology, sports, entertainment, defense, education etc.

You bought land and resource mines all over Africa and other parts of the world, invested heavily in other countries, made them customers of your manufacturing based economy and depended on you, used billions as aid to get strategic advantage.

We just want to do the same and we are doing fine now but not to your level just slowly.

India needs China more than China needs India. But don't think China would stop having ties in few months. It would be mutually bad for our economies and regional stability.
 
Why would we want war with you ? You are our trade partner will billions of dollars worth exchange and the trade deficit is India's

Our focus is increasing our economic strength and making it as our weapon just like you did. Once you reached to good economic condition , you poured billions in every field science, technology, sports, entertainment, defense, education etc.

You bought land and resource mines all over Africa and other parts of the world, invested heavily in other countries, made them customers of your manufacturing based economy and depended on you, used billions as aid to get strategic advantage.

We just want to do the same and we are doing fine now but not to your level just slowly.

India needs China more than China needs India. But don't think China would stop having ties in few months. It would be mutually bad for our economies and regional stability.

The bold part is not clear.
 
i dont think so``as both have nuclear weapons``and when war breaks between nulclear powers its difficult to contain the scale of the war`

Not necessarily!

Sino-Soviet border conflict, Kargil war etc were limited in terms of scale.
 
The bold part is not clear.
If they suddenly stop ties with us especially economic, look at the loss their companies will have and it will be god send for companies of west. If Lenovo stops supplying, HP,Apple, Toshiba, Dell etc. will fill the void created in demand and Lenovo will loose in millions. Same is with Huwaie. and numerous case. If India stops any sell of product Made in China, both the economies will suffer along with Western one in this case. Indian rural class is the major market for Chinese cheap mobile phones. Indian middle class is major market for their emerging electronic companies etc.

No one wants to loose share of 450 million total market potential as middle class and remember Chinese are very intelligent businessmen. People will carry out demonstration and what not, govt. will move very slowly if they decide to break the ties.
 
India only has one Nehru, so there are not the second war
 

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