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Zionist Analysts: No Systems Able to Hit Fattah

Zionist Analysts: No Systems Able to Hit Fattah

TEL AVIV (Dispatches) --
Media analysts and commentators in Occupied Palestine have been discussing Iran’s new hypersonic missile that was unveiled on Tuesday by chief commander of the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps, Major General Hussein Salami. It is said that the Fattah missile gives Iran a “significant” military edge in the region.
According to Nir Dvori, a military commentator on Israel’s Channel 12, the missile will be “difficult to detect, observe and intercept.”
The channel’s Arab affairs commentator, Ohad Hamo, said that Iran’s missile is another step towards “deterring” the Zionist regime from launching any sort of military strike against the Islamic Republic. He also pointed out that the Fattah missile will be difficult to intercept because of its speed — Mach 13 — and maneuverability.
“No missile defense system will be able to hit it.”
The U.S. does not possess hypersonic missiles, he added, only China and Russia do.
“Iran’s unveiling of the Fattah hypersonic missile is a message to Israel,” noted Maariv newspaper.
Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi told those present at the missile’s unveiling ceremony on Tuesday: “We know these achievements anger our enemies, but we say to them, die in your anger, because these achievements make the Iranian people happy. What the IRGC’s Air Force is accomplishing is scientific and local work far from foreign pressure.”
Raisi insisted that Iran’s deterrence force is purely defensive, never offensive.
“It is a point of strength that contributes to establishing security in the region. This missile means that the region will be safe from evildoers and foreign aggression. The message to those who are thinking of attacking Iran is that the Islamic Republic is a powerful country and its power aims to support the people of Iran and the oppressed people of the world.”
Hypersonic missiles are projectiles that can move at a speed of at least Mach 5, or five times the speed of sound. That is 1.7km (1.05 miles) per second or 6,174km (3,836 miles) per hour.
Some ballistic missiles already reach these speeds, but this new class of weapon separates itself from the pack as it can take a more random path to its intended target after plunging back into the earth’s atmosphere.
This makes it far more difficult to be detected by radar systems and to be destroyed by defense shields.
More countries are pursuing hypersonic weaponry in hopes they will provide them with a military

edge, but the challenges remain formidable.
For one, friction from the upper atmosphere produces extremely high temperatures, while the intense speed of the missile produces superheated particles surrounding it that make it harder for radio communications to get through.
So far, Russia and China have displayed an array of hypersonic weapons, with Moscow being the only one thought to have tested them in combat. The United States has also tested hypersonic missiles but lags behind its two rivals.
Several months after the IRGC first announced in November that it had a hypersonic missile, the Fattah was displayed on Tuesday.
Iran says the projectile has a range of 1,400km (870 miles) and can move at a massive speed of up to Mach 15 (5.1 km or 3.2 miles per second) before hitting its target.
It is also said to feature a moveable secondary nozzle and employ solid propellants that allow for high maneuverability within and outside the atmosphere, which top IRGC commanders have said means no missile defense system in the world is a match for it.
Iranian authorities have also praised a “generational leap” in missile technology on the back of the Fattah, which they have said will give Iran new levels of deterrence.
They have dismissed Western skepticism of Iran’s development of hypersonic missiles, saying the truth will be revealed “on the day” such arms may be used, and that the U.S. is only skeptical as the technology undermines its efforts to sell arms to the region.
Fattah’s current range is just short of the distance between Tehran and Tel Aviv, but IRGC aerospace chief commander Amir Ali Hajizadeh suggested on Tuesday that the force could look to hypersonics with a range of 2,000km (1,242 miles) in the near future.
At the claimed speeds, Fattah could theoretically reach Israeli targets in under seven minutes. That will leave little room for detection and interception, even for the Zionist regime’s Iron Dome missile defense system.
When covering news of the missile’s unveiling, Israeli media widely focused on a previous threat by Iranian media that an Iranian hypersonic projectile could reach Occupied Palestine in 400 seconds.
The U.S. introduced a new round of sanctions on Tehran after the unveiling, including sanctions around its ballistic missile program.

 
So only mods can be arrogant and accuse others!

here is your own words:
"You literally speak Russian propaganda in this matter."

"Ukraine war is a proxy war between Russia and US, nothing else. US ran a coup in Ukraine and deposed their democratically elected government, people of the eastern Ukraine rebelled against this coup regime and demanded separation, and since then US has been helping the Ukrainian fascist regime to kill and suppress the pro-Russian people in Ukraine, and invade them in the end (based on their own admission). so yes, US started this war, not Russia."

This statement should be called Facts and Figures instead?

I highlighted Ukrainian developments at length and in correct sequence in here. But look at your reaction in here.

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Yanukovych's refusal to accept EU-Ukraine Association Agreement sparked Euromaiden protests in Ukraine. People have socioeconomic needs that a sensible leader is supposed to address. But Yanukovych was beholden to his Russian overlords and refused to budge, Ukrainians sent him packing to Russia therefore. Yanukovych convinced Russians to intervene but he has no future in Ukraine irrespective of Russian attempts to bring him back to power in the region.

In the case of Victoria Nuland, it would be better to ask who allowed this woman to interact with Ukrainian protestors while being an American state employee. This was bad optics and contributed to Russian narrative building. Nevertheless, it is not unusual for people to show poor judgement in a bad situation. People do not have a crystal ball.

I gave the exact date of missile attack, yet you didn't even bother to make a simple search in google. You are the one who arrogantly copy paste some link without any investigation.

Copy pasting the links which call the terrorist groups as opposition is the same as supporting the terrorism, no different than saying Iran attacked and killed civilians of ISIS and Al-Qaeda opposition groups!


So these missiles ignore the projectile which is about to impact and instead go after another, perhaps they are heading for the moon!

Closest target has the higher priority, if patriot was able to track this projectile, no other target have been chosen. you are still refusing to accept it's blunt failure. it's trolls behavior.



First of all, that chart covers missile attack till next month, but not the one in 28 march which is widely reported by both sides and there are video and picture footages for the incident.

The reason is obvious, the unwanted footage. no more "old version, out of range, out of function" excuses. it's the absolute failure.

I didn't cherry pick this incident, this incident is unique, cause local people were able to film the incident and exposed the lying side.

I have checked your sources and footage. It provides a limited snapshot of the activities above Riyadh at the time.

Houthi had launched multiple ballistic missiles and drones at Saudi locations including Riyadh on 3 / 28 / 2020:

A military spokesman for the Houthis on Sunday said the group's forces had launched rockets and drones at "sensitive" sites in the Saudi capital Riyadh and at economic and military sites in Jizan, Najran and Asir, near the Yemeni border.

Spokesman Yahya Saria said Zulfiqar missiles and Samad 3 drones were launched at Riyadh, and other drones and missiles at the southern areas.

Saria warned of further "painful operations" against Saudi Arabia if aggression against Yemen continued.



I do not see any Patriot interceptor coming for the "projectile" that is shown in the footage. It is possible that this projectile was deemed non-threatening and ignored, or it was intercepted later. WE do not have a complete picture of these activities. WE do not have access to Patriot radar data either.

I have provided independent evidence of how a PAC-3 class interceptor functions. It does not behaves like a bullet but will aggressively maneuver to defeat a target if it has to.

I do not get your propensity to ignore facts when posted. This is not conducive to debate.

Copy pasting the links which call the terrorist groups as opposition is the same as supporting the terrorism, no different than saying Iran attacked and killed civilians of ISIS and Al-Qaeda opposition groups!

You need to keep Iranian political history in mind when you take a hard-line position like this. Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini was a political dissident and had to spent a part of his life in Exile (Turkey -> Iraq -> France) when Shah of Iran was in power. However, Khomeini-backed political revolution succeeded in 1979, and he is the chief architect of the current Iranian setup.


Authoritative Governments / Regimes are known to declare political dissidents as terrorists when it suits them. KDPI is composed of Iranian political dissidents and is not identified as a terrorist organization in international forums, it has not crossed the threshold yet. If it does, I will respect your position and not mention it. Nevertheless, sources such as NYT and HRG have a history of providing valuable information and cannot be ignored on politically-motivated grounds.

Iranian involvement in Iraq is not limited to KDPI, it extends to pro-Iranian militias. Your side has its political rationale for its intervention in other countries. Your side has also violated sovereignty of other countries when it feels the need to for politically-motivated reasons. This line of thought extends to others as well. Why single out the US in this matter?

Some countries are peaceful and have good Foreign policy principles, these can complain.

ISIS and Al-Qaeda Networks are non-state actors and their atrocites are globally documented.

Do you mean this successful interception where Zelensky pulled a Bob of Baghdad level stunt by welding a "Khinzal" in his workshop and started claiming it's from Russia? That guy knows how to empty American Taxpayer's pockets for his "war" on Russia.

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Left = Unitary warhead inside the missile
Right = Complete missile
 
You mean URENCO (nederlands) expertise ? because it was their patents that got stolen/smuggled out by Khan. You need to read IAEA's official statement

https://www.iranwatch.org/our-publications/articles-reports/beyond-ir-1-irans-advanced-centrifuges-their-lasting-implications

Dr. Abdolqadir Khan stole two centrifuge designs from his employers in nederlands URENCO who owned the patents before Khan even got job in URENCO. One design was called CNOR which khan smuggled in Pakistan and this became P-1 in Pakistan and IR-1 in Iran in late 1980s. 2nd design he stole was G2 which became P-2 in Pakistan and IR-2 in Iran simultaeously in 1990s. From early 1990s, nothing was exchanged. According to IAEA papers, in Iran, Dr. Mohsen Fakhrizadeh's (Dr. Khan's equivalent in Iran, both men are dead now) team turned towards developement of an indigenous IR-6 pretty quickly which is just a totally different design from Khan's stolen CNOR or G2 from URENCO(Nederlands), IR-6 was wider, shorter and built of C-fibre instead of alloys of CNOR/G-2/P-1/2 and IR-1/2. It also had a IAEA reported capacity of 10+ SWU/year. Then the focus went to IR-8/9 which supposedly can produce 45-50 SWU/year. Iran realized pretty quickly in late 1990s that It needs larger U235 outputs. Today Iran has some thousands of IR-6 in God knows in how many underground facilities around Iran. While Iran also developed Laser enrichment facilities (atleast one is officially known). Israelis and US fear that if Iran uses all of IR-6 in storages i.e. thousands for enrichment and puts its 70-80 tons/year production of Uranium (Only behind China, US, Russia, India among Nuclear enrichment club), it will produce more weapons than ... it should. Or it might already have. Who knows the reality.

So this whole idea of "oh we gave them nukes" is based upon lack of information and stupid nationalism which does not work in serious defence circles. Khan's smuggled designs out of Nederlands were used by Pakistan and Iran. We should thank URENCO for the design and Khan for his stolen material. Besides, centrifuges are not the only component of a nuclear weapon program. Pakistani P-1 and Iranian IR-1 were once developed by both countries in 1980s-1990s but not anymore for high grade enrichment atleast and both came from URENCO in nederlands.

Today Iran ranks with powerhouses of the world in terms of Engineering and Sciences R&D output, if we want we will produce an antimatter bomb but these weapons do not win you wars, so there utility is meaningless, Russia with 10000 nukes cant defeat nukeless Ukraine.

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Khan was a brilliant Scientist and didn't need to steal anything. He had a brilliant mind and learnt all the know how from his Cambridge education and his in the job learning. In fact Pakistan has many brilliant minds like him and a mountain more of unused talent. He did , even after the URENCO allegations, made huge strides in Metallurgy (that was his specialisation) and was on the level of Newton and Einstein. So cut out the Zion crap and face the reality.
 
@WebMaster would you mind explaining why I have recieved a troll warning in this thread?


Yes, busted. but you, not me.

A very simple search in google on that date would confirm the missile attack news:


That footage is not a photo, but a video, showing two pac3 patriot missiles around Riyadh missing Houthis missile, video of the failed interception is in the following link:

غافلگیری بزرگ برای پدافند عربستان در آسمان ریاض / شکست به‌روزترین نسخه پاتریوت در برابر موشک جدید یمن+فیلم و عکس - مشرق نیوز


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debris of pac3 missile which fell on residential area and Saudis falsely claimed Yemeni's missile


or if you are more comfortable here is one of twitter links:

Nonetheless, it's not something which you would find in the American's charts (propaganda)!

Porsidi koja troll kardi, een yaroo bejash mige arrogant boodee. Maloome troll khodeshe va oonhaye ke estekhdamesh kardan baraye modiriat-e een site-e tokhmi.
 
Khan was a brilliant Scientist and didn't need to steal anything. He had a brilliant mind and learnt all the know how from his Cambridge education and his in the job learning. In fact Pakistan has many brilliant minds like him and a mountain more of unused talent. He did , even after the URENCO allegations, made huge strides in Metallurgy (that was his specialisation) and was on the level of Newton and Einstein. So cut out the Zion crap and face the reality.
brilliant scientist but he took the shortcut and stole the design
 
"Ukraine war is a proxy war between Russia and US, nothing else. US ran a coup in Ukraine and deposed their democratically elected government, people of the eastern Ukraine rebelled against this coup regime and demanded separation, and since then US has been helping the Ukrainian fascist regime to kill and suppress the pro-Russian people in Ukraine, and invade them in the end (based on their own admission). so yes, US started this war, not Russia."

This statement should be called Facts and Figures instead?

I highlighted Ukrainian developments at length and in correct sequence in here. But look at your reaction in here.

2013-12-08T000000Z_2084541347_LR1E9C811JQNT_RTRMADP_3_UKRAINE-1-1024x683.jpg


Yanukovych's refusal to accept EU-Ukraine Association Agreement sparked Euromaiden protests in Ukraine. People have socioeconomic needs that a sensible leader is supposed to address. But Yanukovych was beholden to his Russian overlords and refused to budge, Ukrainians sent him packing to Russia therefore. Yanukovych convinced Russians to intervene but he has no future in Ukraine irrespective of Russian attempts to bring him back to power in the region.

In the case of Victoria Nuland, it would be better to ask who allowed this woman to interact with Ukrainian protestors while being an American state employee. This was bad optics and contributed to Russian narrative building. Nevertheless, it is not unusual for people to show poor judgement in a bad situation. People do not have a crystal ball.



I have checked your sources and footage. It provides a limited snapshot of the activities above Riyadh at the time.

Houthi had launched multiple ballistic missiles and drones at Saudi locations including Riyadh on 3 / 28 / 2020:

A military spokesman for the Houthis on Sunday said the group's forces had launched rockets and drones at "sensitive" sites in the Saudi capital Riyadh and at economic and military sites in Jizan, Najran and Asir, near the Yemeni border.

Spokesman Yahya Saria said Zulfiqar missiles and Samad 3 drones were launched at Riyadh, and other drones and missiles at the southern areas.

Saria warned of further "painful operations" against Saudi Arabia if aggression against Yemen continued.



I do not see any Patriot interceptor coming for the "projectile" that is shown in the footage. It is possible that this projectile was deemed non-threatening and ignored, or it was intercepted later. WE do not have a complete picture of these activities. WE do not have access to Patriot radar data either.

I have provided independent evidence of how a PAC-3 class interceptor functions. It does not behaves like a bullet but will aggressively maneuver to defeat a target if it has to.

I do not get your propensity to ignore facts when posted. This is not conducive to debate.



You need to keep Iranian political history in mind when you take a hard-line position like this. Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini was a political dissident and had to spent a part of his life in Exile (Turkey -> Iraq -> France) when Shah of Iran was in power. However, Khomeini-backed political revolution succeeded in 1979, and he is the chief architect of the current Iranian setup.


Authoritative Governments / Regimes are known to declare political dissidents as terrorists when it suits them. KDPI is composed of Iranian political dissidents and is not identified as a terrorist organization in international forums, it has not crossed the threshold yet. If it does, I will respect your position and not mention it. Nevertheless, sources such as NYT and HRG have a history of providing valuable information and cannot be ignored on politically-motivated grounds.

Iranian involvement in Iraq is not limited to KDPI, it extends to pro-Iranian militias. Your side has its political rationale for its intervention in other countries. Your side has also violated sovereignty of other countries when it feels the need to for politically-motivated reasons. This line of thought extends to others as well. Why single out the US in this matter?

Some countries are peaceful and have good Foreign policy principles, these can complain.

ISIS and Al-Qaeda Networks are non-state actors and their atrocites are globally documented.



Left = Unitary warhead inside the missile
Right = Complete missile


The world much rather take the words of Professor Mearsheimer , than all the other hacks trotted out by Whitehouse and NED that seemed to be the only sources that you allowed.

RESPECTFULLY TRY TO LEARN FROM THOSE WHO DO KNOW



 
Israel masters are aware that downplaying Iranian weapons and missiles are not a wise idea now, they continue ahead with stupid games, but finally they realized, firstly they don t fool anyone with a brain, secondly, it s of not avail for them,not worthy. They already does not say stupids thinks about photoshop like before, now Iran is the one laughing here.

Iran hypersonic missiles are real beef not just for Israel, for the US military, they have nothing to defend about this Iranian threath, if Iran wants they can destroy any asset from their enemies any day, that s the point here. The only one that matters.
 
ABM military systems from US are trash, they don t guarantee a high level percentage of interception for even subsonic missiles, like yemenis have shown repeteadly.

Not only trash, the Muricans are prepared to tell lies after lies after lies as is well known of them.

Zionist analysts meant that they also prepared to lie and give fake reports with that of Murica.
And then Murica brown nosers and apologist jump into the fray repeating and parroting the lies of Murica in hope of drowning out thoughts with threats of sanctions and negative ratings so that the lies of Murica will reign supreme :omghaha:
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