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Pakistan carries out airstrikes along AfPak border

I am a nobody, just a random man on internet
but imho please do not use jets bombing - it bring way too many collateral damage, this is the last thing we want
some of the pics I am seeing are horrible...
Yes collateral damage should be avoided at all costs, but you do understand it does become difficult once the terrorists are living in the same house.
 
what is the threshold in Pakistan warranting use of AF/fighter-jets to quell internal strife? Is there some publication I can read? Please don’t misunderstand, I’m not critical of the choices made here. Just curious is all. I’ve read a ton of publications on this topic examining the contrast in approaches adopted by the two neighbours. But I’m yet to see a convincing doctrine document (outside editorials and opinions) from the Pakistani side.
 

Taliban issues warning over civilians killed by Pakistan rockets​

Pakistan rockets and aerial raids on two different Afghan provinces resulted in civilian casualties, officials say.

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A wounded Afghan boy receives treatment at a hospital following alleged Pakistani airstrikes on April 16, 2022 [AFP]
Published On 16 Apr 202216 Apr 2022
Taliban authorities warned Pakistan on Saturday after five children and a woman were killed in Afghanistan in alleged rocket attacks by the Pakistani forces in a pre-dawn assault along the border.
“The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan condemns in the strongest possible terms the bombardment and attack that has taken place from the Pakistan side on the soil of Afghanistan,” government spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid told reporters in an audio message.

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“This is a cruelty and it is paving the way for enmity between Afghanistan and Pakistan … We are using all options to prevent repetitions (of such attacks) and calling for our sovereignty to be respected,” he said.
“The Pakistani side should know that if a war starts it will not be in the interest of any side. It will cause instability in the region.”

Pakistani military officials were not immediately available for comment.
Hundreds of civilians of Khost poured into the streets chanting anti-Pakistan slogans later on Saturday.
Demonstrators take part in a protest against Pakistani airstrikes, in Khost on April 16, 2022. At least five children and a woman were killed in an eastern Afghan province when Pakistani military forces allegedly fired rockets along the border in a pre-dawn assault on Saturday [AFP]
Demonstrators take part in a protest against Pakistani airstrikes, in Khost on April 16, 2022. At least five children and a woman were killed in an eastern Afghan province when Pakistani military forces allegedly fired rockets along the border in a pre-dawn assault [AFP].
Border tensions between Pakistan and Afghanistan have risen since the Taliban seized power last year.
Islamabad claims militant groups are launching attacks on Pakistan from Afghan soil.

The Taliban deny harbouring Pakistani militants, and is infuriated by construction of a fence Pakistan is erecting along their 2,700-kilometre (1,600-mile) border, known as the Durand line.
The United Nations Assistance Mission in Afghanistan (UNAMA) said it was “deeply concerned” by civilian deaths caused by air strikes, and the mission was verifying the extent of casualties.

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Kunar provincial director of information Najibullah Hassan Abdaal told AFP: “Five children and a woman were killed and a man wounded in Pakistani rocket attacks in Shelton district of Kunar.”
Ehsanullah, a resident of Shelton district who goes by one name as many Afghans do, said the assault was carried out by Pakistani military aircraft. He confirmed the death toll.

According to another Afghan government official, a similar pre-dawn assault was carried out in Afghanistan’s Khost province near the border.
“Pakistani helicopters bombarded four villages near the Durand line in Khost province,” he said on condition of anonymity.
“Only civilian houses were targeted and there were casualties,” he added, but did not offer more details.
TOLO News, Afghanistan’s leading private TV channel, showed footage of houses destroyed in the assault in Khost.

“All the targeted people were innocent civilians who had nothing to do with the Taliban or the government,” Rasool Jan, a resident of Khost, told the channel.
“We don’t know who is our enemy and why we were targeted.”
The Afghan foreign ministry said it had summoned the Pakistani ambassador in Kabul to protest the attacks.
“Such military violations including in Khost and Kunar should be prevented as ill-wishers and groups with vested interests will exploit these incidents,” Foreign Minister Amir Khan Muttaqi told the Pakistani envoy on Saturday, according to a ministry statement.

Border tensions​

On Thursday, at least seven Pakistani soldiers were killed in an ambush by an armed group near the Afghan border.

According to a military statement, a Pakistani military convoy in a former stronghold of the Pakistan Taliban, known by the acronym TTP, near the Afghan border was ambushed, triggering an intense shoot-out in which seven soldiers and four members of the armed group were killed.
North Waziristan map
[Al Jazeera]
The statement said the ambush took place in the Isham area of North Waziristan, a district in the volatile northwestern Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province.
“Pakistan Army is determined to eliminate the menace of terrorism and such sacrifices of our brave soldiers further strengthen our resolve,” the statement added.

There was no immediate claim of responsibility.
The incident comes as Pakistan’s military said on Thursday that 128 armed fighters have been killed in the region bordering Afghanistan since January.
The military acknowledged that nearly 100 soldiers have been killed in such attacks during the same period.
Paying tributes to the killed soldiers, Pakistan’s new Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif said Islamabad would “continue fighting terrorism”.
 
Why don't you go and join taliban instead of being a warrior from your drawing room?

Some of the posters are acting like PAF saw kids and women and said yeah we should target them. Are you guys for real? While the loss of children and women is regrettable, it goes without saying that utmost care is done to avoid any collateral damage.
The loss of TTP family members isn't regrettable. Their fathers brothers and husbands are to blame. Not the brave men who stand guard on our borders protecting us.

I want Pakistan to start a program to cull all these filthy Islamist and Ummah lovers. Their duplicity weakens our state.

One more thing- stupidest thing we have done is not to build a narrative- Zarb e Azb was highly successful due to the narrative. We not only need to reinforce narrative against the TTP but also create one against the Taliban. - The amount of Pakistanis who admire IEA shows our failure to dominate the information domain post 2014.
 
Wrt Syria, the Syrian govt and Turkish Govt are against one another, unlike present day Afghanistan where apparently its a neutral relationship.


This means, all military targets that belong to either SAA or PKK/YPG are green lit. Hence they bombed the crap out of them all.

Pakistan cant really do that unless its a full scale war between the 2 nations.

Ohhh so that explains why Turkey can do a whole big operation and be able to routinely bomb PKK/YPG hideouts without any domestic backlash?

I am just curious as to what Iran did to Balochistan and their own Kurd insurgency as well as Turkey and how we can apply those lessons to our own insurgencies and problems.

What did they do that we can't????
 

Taliban issues warning over civilians killed by Pakistan rockets​

Pakistan rockets and aerial raids on two different Afghan provinces resulted in civilian casualties, officials say.

Khost.jpg

A wounded Afghan boy receives treatment at a hospital following alleged Pakistani airstrikes on April 16, 2022 [AFP]
Published On 16 Apr 202216 Apr 2022
Taliban authorities warned Pakistan on Saturday after five children and a woman were killed in Afghanistan in alleged rocket attacks by the Pakistani forces in a pre-dawn assault along the border.
“The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan condemns in the strongest possible terms the bombardment and attack that has taken place from the Pakistan side on the soil of Afghanistan,” government spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid told reporters in an audio message.

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The troubled path ahead for Pakistan’s new prime minister

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“This is a cruelty and it is paving the way for enmity between Afghanistan and Pakistan … We are using all options to prevent repetitions (of such attacks) and calling for our sovereignty to be respected,” he said.
“The Pakistani side should know that if a war starts it will not be in the interest of any side. It will cause instability in the region.”

Pakistani military officials were not immediately available for comment.
Hundreds of civilians of Khost poured into the streets chanting anti-Pakistan slogans later on Saturday.
Demonstrators take part in a protest against Pakistani airstrikes, in Khost on April 16, 2022. At least five children and a woman were killed in an eastern Afghan province when Pakistani military forces allegedly fired rockets along the border in a pre-dawn assault on Saturday [AFP]
Demonstrators take part in a protest against Pakistani airstrikes, in Khost on April 16, 2022. At least five children and a woman were killed in an eastern Afghan province when Pakistani military forces allegedly fired rockets along the border in a pre-dawn assault [AFP].
Border tensions between Pakistan and Afghanistan have risen since the Taliban seized power last year.
Islamabad claims militant groups are launching attacks on Pakistan from Afghan soil.

The Taliban deny harbouring Pakistani militants, and is infuriated by construction of a fence Pakistan is erecting along their 2,700-kilometre (1,600-mile) border, known as the Durand line.
The United Nations Assistance Mission in Afghanistan (UNAMA) said it was “deeply concerned” by civilian deaths caused by air strikes, and the mission was verifying the extent of casualties.

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Kunar provincial director of information Najibullah Hassan Abdaal told AFP: “Five children and a woman were killed and a man wounded in Pakistani rocket attacks in Shelton district of Kunar.”
Ehsanullah, a resident of Shelton district who goes by one name as many Afghans do, said the assault was carried out by Pakistani military aircraft. He confirmed the death toll.

According to another Afghan government official, a similar pre-dawn assault was carried out in Afghanistan’s Khost province near the border.
“Pakistani helicopters bombarded four villages near the Durand line in Khost province,” he said on condition of anonymity.
“Only civilian houses were targeted and there were casualties,” he added, but did not offer more details.
TOLO News, Afghanistan’s leading private TV channel, showed footage of houses destroyed in the assault in Khost.

“All the targeted people were innocent civilians who had nothing to do with the Taliban or the government,” Rasool Jan, a resident of Khost, told the channel.
“We don’t know who is our enemy and why we were targeted.”
The Afghan foreign ministry said it had summoned the Pakistani ambassador in Kabul to protest the attacks.
“Such military violations including in Khost and Kunar should be prevented as ill-wishers and groups with vested interests will exploit these incidents,” Foreign Minister Amir Khan Muttaqi told the Pakistani envoy on Saturday, according to a ministry statement.

Border tensions​

On Thursday, at least seven Pakistani soldiers were killed in an ambush by an armed group near the Afghan border.

According to a military statement, a Pakistani military convoy in a former stronghold of the Pakistan Taliban, known by the acronym TTP, near the Afghan border was ambushed, triggering an intense shoot-out in which seven soldiers and four members of the armed group were killed.
North Waziristan map
[Al Jazeera]
The statement said the ambush took place in the Isham area of North Waziristan, a district in the volatile northwestern Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province.
“Pakistan Army is determined to eliminate the menace of terrorism and such sacrifices of our brave soldiers further strengthen our resolve,” the statement added.

There was no immediate claim of responsibility.
The incident comes as Pakistan’s military said on Thursday that 128 armed fighters have been killed in the region bordering Afghanistan since January.
The military acknowledged that nearly 100 soldiers have been killed in such attacks during the same period.
Paying tributes to the killed soldiers, Pakistan’s new Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif said Islamabad would “continue fighting terrorism”.
We will bomb Afghanistan as much as is necessary. Taliban can go lump it.
 
I have a feeling Pakistan gave airspace to US and they conducted the attack.
You think that this was a sudden reaction by Pakistan.. It isn't the case.
Afghans fired on a Pakistani helicopter and were given a week's ultimatum to hand over the culprits. Near the week's end, heavy deployments were carried out in offensive posture to show deterrence and give a message.
But these namak harams didn't learn the lesson and were duly punished.
 
We will bomb Afghanistan as much as is necessary. Taliban can go lump it.

So you should also not criticize the US or anyone if they bomb somewhere & casualty happens of innocent kids and women.
 
I have a feeling Pakistan gave airspace to US and they conducted the attack.
No.

The loss of TTP family members isn't regrettable. Their fathers brothers and husbands are to blame. Not the brave men who stand guard on our borders protecting us.

I want Pakistan to start a program to cull all these filthy Islamist and Ummah lovers. Their duplicity weakens our state.

One more thing- stupidest thing we have done is not to build a narrative- Zarb e Azb was highly successful due to the narrative. We not only need to reinforce narrative against the TTP but also create one against the Taliban. - The amount of Pakistanis who admire IEA shows our failure to dominate the information domain post 2014.
I am 100% with you on narrative building, controlling and sustaining part. However, this is our moral obligation to not hurt non combatants. Let's save their kids so that they can become useful members of the society.
 
How many TTP killed? will the air strikes continue?
 

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