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Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

This is extremely disturbing. Where is US and European condemnations ???


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CNN reporting World Health Organization says 31 babies evacuated from Al Shifa Hospital. AlHamdulillah ya Rab if it's true those sweet innocent angels make it through this horrible ordeal and may Allah grant them a healthy and prosperous rest of their lives InshaAllah. These are the things that tear me apart.
What about the other thousands of angels murdered by the Israeli baby killing machine?
 
This is military competence according to Israeli's, Jews, and people like @jhungary. If Muslims did this to Jews in Israel they'll be crying about a Holocaust.

Well, if they are militarily competent, the map will not be like this in just 3 weeks. Even Iraqi stay off the American better in Fallujah than this.

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again, and the fact remain, and I am using YOUR WORD, instead of what I actually believe.

What is the point if Hamas loses 2000+ and another 12,000 Gazan under their care to do a hit and run on a division of 10,000-12,000 men and kill 800? While they do not hold any ground that was "captured" in Israel? And no subsequent ground changes since almost 2 months ago?

This is the major issue here, and this show the over command decision, and that's not logical. And I don't think even die hard Hamas fans like you can answer this question.

Does that make me a friend of a jew? No, i have said time and time again, I don't see Israeli point either and their goal of getting rid of Hamas in Gaza can NEVER be achieved even if they took the entire Gaza, for the simple fact that Hamas leadership is not even in Gaza and middle to higher level management will be using those tunnel to get out of Gaza once IDF hit, which means Hamas leadership in Qatar can restart the entire organisation anytime, anywhere the moment Israel left, and as I said before, I don't see Israel even have long term preparation on Gaza, there are no post occupation plan for Israel.

That said, that does not take away the fact that the entire operation of what Hamas does in Oct 7 is worthless if we are using your way to interpret it.
 
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The only mistake Hamas did is thinking Israel actually values the life of it's people. The plan was to shake up the unacceptable status quo and to trade hostages for the thousands of illegally detained Palestinians in Zionist torture centers. Stop analyzing this as if it's some sort of conventional war, it's the wretched of the earth lashing out at the inhumane illegal blockade of the zionist entity. Please study past liberation struggles, number of victims mean nothing in that kind of fight for freedom.
You think 200 some hostage will stop the Israeli from invading Gaza, well, that's your first mistake.

It wouldn't take a military person with military background to know this is just not going to happen, a no-go from the get go, I said even before Israeli stack its card back in mid-October this is going to be a go and this is going to be a slaughter inside Gaza. Then people like you laugh at my post, and well, we all see how that go.

On the other hand, this is a conventional warfare, like it or not, at least IDF is playing it conventionally. Just because Hamas chose to fight unconventionally does not change the dynamic, because this is not a Hamas operation, this is IDF operation, and if IDF choose to fight street by street, house by house and block by block, then this WILL remain a conventional war, because how Hamas offer their resistance is largely depends on how Israeli attack. It's a common misconception that you can't fight asymmetric warfare conventionally. Again, that's really depends on the attacker's tempo, if they can keep the tempo in a conventional way, that war will remain conventional, but if they can't and the dynamic shift, then they will need to adapt and either do COIN or lose that war. The thing is, IDF already said they have no intention on staying in Gaza, which mean they really don't need to consider the COIN/Insurgent part, which mean they just need to focus on how to dismantle Hamas resistance street by street, house by house and block by block, destroy the HAMAS network and go home like they said, before any counter attack even materialise.
 
Understanding the extremism of the Israeli settlers in the West Bank; an analysis of an article and and an interview.

These settlers believe greater Israel’s border are from the Euphrates and Nile.
 
You think 200 some hostage will stop the Israeli from invading Gaza, well, that's your first mistake.

It wouldn't take a military person with military background to know this is just not going to happen, a no-go from the get go, I said even before Israeli stack its card back in mid-October this is going to be a go and this is going to be a slaughter inside Gaza. Then people like you laugh at my post, and well, we all see how that go.

On the other hand, this is a conventional warfare, like it or not, at least IDF is playing it conventionally. Just because Hamas chose to fight unconventionally does not change the dynamic, because this is not a Hamas operation, this is IDF operation, and if IDF choose to fight street by street, house by house and block by block, then this WILL remain a conventional war, because how Hamas offer their resistance is largely depends on how Israeli attack. It's a common misconception that you can't fight asymmetric warfare conventionally. Again, that's really depends on the attacker's tempo, if they can keep the tempo in a conventional way, that war will remain conventional, but if they can't and the dynamic shift, then they will need to adapt and either do COIN or lose that war. The thing is, IDF already said they have no intention on staying in Gaza, which mean they really don't need to consider the COIN/Insurgent part, which mean they just need to focus on how to dismantle Hamas resistance street by street, house by house and block by block, destroy the HAMAS network and go home like they said, before any counter attack even materialise.
Hamas must of thought through their resistance , the Palestinians have huge experience in fighting the Israelis. The high civilian death toll will make them stronger. The key to battle for Palestine is: do the Palestinians have a supply line of weapons and can the Israeli public stomach the losses of IDF soldiers. Gaza is an ideal ground for guerilla warfare and like the German Nazi forces in Stalingrad the Israeli Nazi forces will pay a dear price.
 
You think 200 some hostage will stop the Israeli from invading Gaza, well, that's your first mistake.

It wouldn't take a military person with military background to know this is just not going to happen, a no-go from the get go, I said even before Israeli stack its card back in mid-October this is going to be a go and this is going to be a slaughter inside Gaza. Then people like you laugh at my post, and well, we all see how that go.

On the other hand, this is a conventional warfare, like it or not, at least IDF is playing it conventionally. Just because Hamas chose to fight unconventionally does not change the dynamic, because this is not a Hamas operation, this is IDF operation, and if IDF choose to fight street by street, house by house and block by block, then this WILL remain a conventional war, because how Hamas offer their resistance is largely depends on how Israeli attack. It's a common misconception that you can't fight asymmetric warfare conventionally. Again, that's really depends on the attacker's tempo, if they can keep the tempo in a conventional way, that war will remain conventional, but if they can't and the dynamic shift, then they will need to adapt and either do COIN or lose that war. The thing is, IDF already said they have no intention on staying in Gaza, which mean they really don't need to consider the COIN/Insurgent part, which mean they just need to focus on how to dismantle Hamas resistance street by street, house by house and block by block, destroy the HAMAS network and go home like they said, before any counter attack even materialise.
What I meant is Hamas's goals aren't conventional victory through the destruction of the enemy. They are not stupid, they know this is not achievable with their limited capabilities. The goals are primarily political, to shake up the unacceptable status quo, to bring back the Palestinian cause to the forefront and to test the resolve of the settlers. This has proven successful in past liberation struggles, if you have better ideas share them with us. But I'll repeat once again the STATUS QUO IS UNACCEPTABLE.
 

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