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The extensive modernization of India’s navy represents its desire to become not only a major regional player, but a major global one as well. Throughout most of the 20` century, India’s naval priorities were essentially focused on containing Pakistan and securing the maritime approaches to Indian territorial waters.

This kept India’s naval outlook confined to its own waters. The expansion of India’s economy since the late-1990s, along with its growing domestic interests and desire to be a regional power has, however, led it to expand its outlook to the wider Indian Ocean region.

Since 2002, India has undertaken a major naval modernization program, with the overall aim of upgrading its military in a 15-year timeframe. The US$40 billion that the Indian Government plans to spend between 2008 and 2013 forms part of this modernization program.

Numerically, the plan intends to make the Indian Navy the third-largest fleet in the world. It currently stands as the fifth-largest, with 171 vessels and around 250 aircraft. In January 2011, India’s Defense Ministry released the Defense Procurement Procedure 2011 (DPP-2011), which contains separate guidelines for government-owned and privately-owned shipyards to promote competition and increase the efficiency of indigenously-built ships.

The centerpiece of the Indian Navy’s modernization scheme revolves around the acquisition of aircraft carriers and nuclear-powered submarines. Presently, India has allocated funds for the acquisition of three aircraft carriers. The first, INS Vikramaditya (formerly the Russian Navy’s Admiral Gorshkov), has been in the process of retrofitting in Russia since 2008.

After considerable delays, it is expected to be delivered in 2012. The Vikramaditya will carry 16 MiG-29K aircraft. India’s other two aircraft carriers are locally built — the first, INS Vikrant, is due to enter service by 2014 and the second carrier is due in 2017 and is expected to carry 29 MiG-29K aircraft. These aircraft carriers would essentially make India a true blue-water navy and consolidate its force projection capability over a far greater portion of the Indian Ocean.

In 2009 India launched the INS Arihant; its first indigenously-built nuclear submarine, with the intention of commissioning it in late-2011. This will give India a nuclear triad (land and sea-based ballistic missiles and bombers carrying nuclear-tipped bombs/missiles), a capability currently only possessed by the United States, China and Russia.

The Arihant will carry Shaurya missiles, which are capable of carrying a 1-tone nuclear warhead with a range of 750 kilometers and designed specifically for submarines. The vessel will also contain 12 Sagirika missiles, which have a range of up to 1,900 kilometers. Five indigenously-built nuclear-powered submarines are planned for the next decade at a total cost of $2.9 billion. The allocation of $11 billion for six diesel-electric submarines featuring improved land-attack capabilities has also recently been approved.

While aircraft carriers and submarines dominate the naval modernization program, there are other elements. In 2010 India signed a contract with the Pipavav Shipyard to build five patrol vessels. It has also built three multi-role, stealth-featured Shivalik-class frigates, with the first of these, INS Shivalik, being commissioned in April 2010.

Three Russian-built Talwar-class frigates have also been acquired, with the first, INS Teg, to be commissioned later in 2011 and the remainder due to start service in 2012. These will double the number of Talwar-class frigates, with the INS Talwar, Trishul and Tabar having already been commissioned in the last decade.

In addition to such measures, which are consistent with India’s expanding Indian Ocean profile, India has sought to establish either bases or listening stations in many of the Indian Ocean islands.

Among the most significant of these was the establishment of a listening post in northern Madagascar in 2007, giving India a naval position near southern Africa and the sea lines of communication from that area. India has also sent a naval patrol vessel, along with a Dornier-228 maritime reconnaissance aircraft to the Seychelles, reportedly to control piracy in the region.

The Indian Navy has also regularly assisted Mauritius in conducting hydrographic surveys, thus ensuring a near-constant naval presence in that country. India has acquired berthing rights in Oman, following joint military exercises in 2006 and a subsequent defense agreement between the two countries. Such initiatives have allowed India to obtain a naval influence in the western Indian Ocean from the Middle East to south-eastern Africa.

Defence News - India's Naval Massive Modernization Program
 
Numerically, the plan intends to make the Indian Navy the third-largest fleet in the world. It currently stands as the fifth-largest, with 171 vessels and around 250 aircraft.

I think you need to be able to build an AESA-equipped destroyer or at least buy one from the United States before you can call yourself a top navy.

The Japanese AESA-equipped Kongo-class destroyers are a total beast. As far as I know, India has nothing comparable. India may have more ships than Japan, but the Japanese Navy is clearly qualitatively superior.

Here's my list of top Asian navies:

1. United States - Aegis-class AESA-equipped Arleigh Burke destroyers (indigenous system)

2. China - Type 052C Lanzhou-class AESA-equipped destroyers (indigenous system)

3. Japan - Kongo-class AESA-equipped destroyers (Aegis system purchased from U.S.)

4. South Korea - Sejong the Great-class AESA-equipped destroyers (Aegis system purchased from U.S.)
 
I think you need to be able to build an AESA-equipped destroyer or at least buy one from the United States before you can call yourself a top navy.

The Japanese AESA-equipped Kongo-class destroyers are a total beast. As far as I know, India has nothing comparable.
The latest Kolkata Class is a stealth Guided Missile Destroyer, equiped with AESA and Brahmos........
Kolkata class destroyer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
It is comparable, if not better than, to the Kongo Class.....
three of them are planned ........
A further 4 are planned of the improved project 15 B class.......these will be equipped with Brahmos 2 , Nirbhay, ER SAM
, Barak 8 and will have improved stealth and better radars
 
1. It's under construction.

2. You still have less AESA-equipped destroyers than Japan or South Korea.

That places India in last place among major Asian navies.
:lol: you asked "need to be able to build an AESA-equipped destroyer"
I answered that
Second, currently we don't have any AESA equipped Destroyer right now in service
 
1. It's under construction.

2. You still have less AESA-equipped destroyers than Japan or South Korea.

That places India in last place among major Asian navies.

That's like saying that India has more experience in having and maintaining an ACC so that put China far behind Indian navy.
 
Five indigenously-built nuclear-powered submarines - $2.9 billion.
six diesel-electric submarines - $11 billion ? :woot:

JOKING?
 
:lol: you asked "need to be able to build an AESA-equipped destroyer"
I answered that

I will assign a lower effective rating to the Israeli system. The American Aegis-system has been tested and upgraded over decades. The Israeli system sounds completely new and is likely unreliable.

The Aegis is the gold standard. The Israeli system sounds like a cheap unproven knockoff. I think India went with the lowest bidder.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aegis_Combat_System

"The Aegis Combat System is an integrated naval weapons system developed by the Missile and Surface Radar Division of RCA, and now produced by Lockheed Martin. It uses powerful computers and radars to track and guide weapons to destroy enemy targets.

Initially used by the United States Navy, Aegis is now used also by the Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force, Spanish Navy, Royal Norwegian Navy, and Republic of Korea Navy. Over 100 Aegis-equipped ships have been deployed in five navies worldwide. The Royal Australian Navy has selected the Aegis system for placement on its new Air Warfare Destroyers."
 
Five indigenously-built nuclear-powered submarines - $2.9 billion.
six diesel-electric submarines - $11 billion ? :woot:

JOKING?
 
1. It's under construction.

2. You still have less AESA-equipped destroyers than Japan or South Korea.

That places India in last place among major Asian navies.
All the 15A and B will be finished by 2016 at the most, when we will exceed Japan in number of AESA destroyers.........that is also when project 16 is to be conceptualised into something concrete
we lack in naval assets because of our focus on the army and the airforce, unlike SK and Japan's focus on the navy.....
 
That's like saying that India has more experience in having and maintaining an ACC so that put China far behind Indian navy.
I think Martian is right this time
What we need more than an ACC are some guided missile Destroyers with excellent Air Defense capability.

I will assign a lower effective rating to the Israeli system. The American Aegis-system has been tested and upgraded over decades. The Israeli system sounds completely new and is likely unreliable.

The Aegis is the gold standard. The Israeli system sounds like a cheap unproven knockoff. I think India went with the lowest bidder.

Aegis Combat System - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"The Aegis Combat System is an integrated naval weapons system developed by the Missile and Surface Radar Division of RCA, and now produced by Lockheed Martin. It uses powerful computers and radars to track and guide weapons to destroy enemy targets.

Initially used by the United States Navy, Aegis is now used also by the Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force, Spanish Navy, Royal Norwegian Navy, and Republic of Korea Navy. Over 100 Aegis-equipped ships have been deployed in five navies worldwide. The Royal Australian Navy has selected the Aegis system for placement on its new Air Warfare Destroyers."
I know It is but you should accept that Israelis are masters of AESAs, in the league of US and France.

@ Martian
What is the range of Chinese Naval AESA Radar up to which it can guide an Air defense Missile?
 
I think Martian is right this time
What we need more than an ACC are some guided missile Destroyers with excellent Air Defense capability.


I know It is but you should accept that Israelis are masters of AESAs, in the league of US and France.

Israelis siphon off American technology. US provides blueprints to Israel under the annual multibillion-dollar military aid program. Israel makes minor changes or incremental improvements and sells the technology on the world market. Most of the Israeli military technology originates from the United States. Six million Jews are not smarter than everyone else.

The important point is that Israel does not operate any Aegis-combat ships. That's why I doubt the Israeli system is effective. It might become effective in ten years, but not now.
 
I will assign a lower effective rating to the Israeli system. The American Aegis-system has been tested and upgraded over decades. The Israeli system sounds completely new and is likely unreliable.

The Aegis is the gold standard. The Israeli system sounds like a cheap unproven knockoff. I think India went with the lowest bidder.

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Aegis Combat System - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"The Aegis Combat System is an integrated naval weapons system developed by the Missile and Surface Radar Division of RCA, and now produced by Lockheed Martin. It uses powerful computers and radars to track and guide weapons to destroy enemy targets.

Initially used by the United States Navy, Aegis is now used also by the Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force, Spanish Navy, Royal Norwegian Navy, and Republic of Korea Navy. Over 100 Aegis-equipped ships have been deployed in five navies worldwide. The Royal Australian Navy has selected the Aegis system for placement on its new Air Warfare Destroyers."
Lockheed Martin is offering AEGIS with Kolkata class......
It would be interesting to see if MoD accepts..........
 
Israelis siphon off American technology. US provides blueprints to Israel under the annual multibillion-dollar military aid. Israel makes incremental improvements or changes and sells the technology on the world market. Most of Israeli military technology originates from the United States. Six million Jews are not smarter than everyone else.

The important point is that Israel does not operate any Aegis-combat ships. That's why I doubt the Israeli system is effective.
That's why I am saying It will be Reliable
 
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