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I think such threads should be allowed. Lets celebrate the differences.

Instead Of Celebrating Differences Shouldn't We Celebrate that we Are One Qaum And one Nation PAKISTAN :pakistan:

We Have to eradicate differences and Become One for the sake of Our Country's Progress And prosperity. :pakistan:
 
Let, me play the devils advocate here, but after seeing this [first of its kind] thread, do wait until someone opens up a similar thread. Headace for me!
 
this pushtoon corner should be closed down, luffy we already have Naswar corner why create more divide??

this should be renamed pakistan corner so people from all over pakistan should not feel left out.

Duh! How it is creating a divide? Why can't Pashtuns have a thread where they can show some ethnic pride and how it is "dividing" Pakistan?. The whole forum is flooded with Kerala Corners and Tamilian Chats, why cant we have Pashtun corners? :angry:

Instead Of Celebrating Differences Shouldn't We Celebrate that we Are One Qaum And one Nation PAKISTAN :pakistan:

We Have to eradicate differences and Become One for the sake of Our Country's Progress And prosperity. :pakistan:

I disagree... Instead of clubbing us all in one group, let us celebrate the diversity of our country.
 
This thread is all about pashtuns........first i am going to share an article about my favorite personality sher shah suri.



Sher Shah Suri , The Lion King


Today the world is witnessing one of the worst cultural polarisation of its history where the majority of common people are becoming a sandwich between religious fanatics and western imperialists and their allies. The "epicentre" of this conflict is the Muslim world in general and the Af-Pak (Pakistan-Afghanistan and Central Asia) in particular with Pashtuns as the "determining factor" once again in history despite being the worst victims of the Great Games being played on their lands for centuries. Today when Muslims who brought modern sciences, enlightenment and Rule of Law to the World and Pashtuns who introduced the concepts of multicultural/multi-faith welfare states in the age of intolerant imperialistic autocracies are being branded as radical extremists or "Talibanised terrorists", historical personalities like Sher Shah become relevant to fight misconceptions, stereotypes and cliches- a man who didn't just happen to have a "Pathan background" but a leader of Pashtuns who was proud both in values of his faith as a Muslim and Afghan cultural heritage and who transformed these traits and values in the polity and administrative excellence of his statecraft. History describes him essentially an Afghan Muslim emperor of India as historically the term Afghan was used exclusively for Pashtuns (the biggest monolithic cultural group of Afghanistan and Pakistan) before the emergence of today's Afghanistan and subsequent adaptation of term Afghan as a civic identity for all the nationals of the country. He was probably the greatest Muslim ruler after Umar bin Khitab (the second Caliph) in terms of excellence of ruler ship and of introducing new institutions that influenced the civilisations outside Muslim World even more than they influenced the Muslim history. His unique greatness lies in the fact that he rose from the position of an ordinary man to become the most successful ruler in the world of his time and not only conquered the subcontinent in a very short span of just five years (1539-1545) but consolidated his empire with the world first professional and regulated civil service together with a professionally organised army based on merit and excellent administration of justice, rule of law and equal opportunities that won him the admiration of even his worst rivals. His miraculous achievements couldn't be replicated even by dynasties in decades let alone individuals and that makes him a true legend.

Few people know that fictional English characters like Kipling's Shere Khan of the Indian Jungle (later adapted in Disney's animated Jungle Book) were named after Sher Shah Suri. His original name was Farid Khan but he earned the title of Sher Khan when he killed a fully grown tiger during his service with the rulers of Bihar. He was born to an Pashtun feudal of Hisar (Haryana East Punjab) named Mian Hasan Khan Suri son of Ibrahim Khan Suri but left home after differences with his father over the ill-treatment of his mother to build his own career . The exact place of his birth is disputed as some sources claim it to be Sasaram (Bihar India; his burial place). The most contemporary source (Abbas Khan Sarwani 1580) indicate his birth place to be somewhere in present Khyber Pakhtunkhwa in North West Pakistan. His grandfather Malik Ibrahim Suri is said to have died in Surezai near Peshawar in 1498 AD-a village of the settlers of Barakzai (Kakar) tribe from Gramshair (present Afghanistan) in those days and still referred to as Da Sher Shah Suri Kalay (Sher Shah's village) by the locals. Irrespective of his birth place and the fact that he grew up inside India, Sher Khan should NOT be confused with one of the urbanised "Indian Khans" of today who carry the surname to claim some particular ancestry with no particular relevance to Pashtun culture or heritage. In those days of tribal and feudal India, ethnicity not only determined the sole identity (and religion in case of Turks, Afghans and Persian immigrants) but also personal cultural traits and most importantly political strength. Sher Shah gained his strength from the Pashtun tribes settled in India; he gained his inspiration from his cultural heritage and introduced Afghan system of leadership in Indian polity despite the fact that he employed even Hindus on highest positions due to his belief in merit and equality. His most trusted talented minister and accountant general who revolutionised the revenue administration system of India was a Hindu named Tudar Maal who was later appointed by Mughal Emperor Akbar to continue his great work. His military commanders however were from Pashtun tribes for obvious reasons but contrary to the contemporary practices, they were chosen strictly on merit and abilities not matrimonial or blood relations. Haibat Khan Niazi was his most senior commander who encouraged thousands of Niazi Pashtun immigrants from Afghanistan to settle in South West Punjab (Mianwali) on Sher Shah's instruction to strengthen the population of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and Muslim tribes of Punjab against the rebellious and turbulent Hindu Gakkars who were opposing an organised government and were causing law and order situations. Khawas Khan, his successful operational commander, was originally a poor fox hunter but Sher Shah had an eye for talent so spotted his potentials and elevated him to the position of a general.

The legendary personality and work of Farid Khan seem like a fairy tale in today's time of scientific empiricism but the legacy of his achievements and the testimonies of even his contemporary rivals besides the fact that he never patronised any "court historians" unlike the rulers of his time leave little space for any exaggeration or fiction. According the Mr. Keene, a British historian, "No government-not even the British has shown so much wisdom as this Pathan." Another important quality of Sher Shah Suri, which made him the best ruler of India even in eyes of Indian historians, was his excellent understanding of Islamic polity and relationship between state and religion in a Hindu majority India. According to Dr. Ishwari Prasad, He was "head and shoulders" above Akbar and Aurangzeb as Akbar alienated orthodox Muslims (or majority of Muslims) due to his ultra liberal un-Islamic religious views and heterodoxy beyond the fundamentals of Islam and that resulted in reactionary policies of successive Muslim rulers and eventually India ended up with a non-tolerant emperor Aurangzeb who persecuted non-Muslims for the "defence of Islam". Akbar was in some ways the equivalent of a brand "liberal Muslims" that normally represent themselves only with no relevance Muslims in wider society where Aurangzeb Alamgir was the roughly the Mughal equivalent of today's radical Islamists. Sher Shah on the other hand was extremely cautious and balanced nevertheless an orthodox practising Muslim himself. He was a strict and learned Muslim, a proud Afghan but at same time not narrow minded towards Hindus or other ethnicities and followed a policy of "Equality and Celebrating Diversity" at that time of authoritarianism and elitist autocracies to avail the full potential of the populace under his rule for the prosperity of his realm.

The visionary Khan built the famous GT Road, the first highway of its kind connecting Peshawar in North West Pakistan to Kolkata in South East India (2600 km later extended to Kabul Afghanistan). The road was constructed for good governance and smooth and efficient administration. The GT Road along with its connecting roads facilitated communication, helped trade and commerce to flourish and made swift dispatch of soldiers from one place to another. The road also helped the Sher Shah Suri in introducing the first organized postal system in the Indian sub continent and best in the World that time. To facilitate the postal runners and the travellers, small inns, called "sarai" were constructed after every 20 miles with separate places of worship for Hindus and Muslims. These inns acted as halting places of government officials moving from one place to another. Each inn had a water pond by its side for drinking water for the animals / horses. Big canopy trees were also planted so as to provide shade lest the water dried up in scorching summers. Remains of these inns, specially the old trees and ponds can still be seen along the modern GT Road. His established an excellent system of local authorities in 47 provinces (or Sarkars) with separation of criminal judiciary from civil executive under Islamic system of social justice. Hindus were exempted from any religious tax levied on Muslims. He also minted the first Rupiya that was the precursor of the modern rupee. The same name and system is still used for the national currency in Pakistan, India, Nepal, Sri Lanka, Indonesia, Mauritius, Maldives, and Seychelles among other countries and even British rulers borrowed some its characteristics. He organised the first professional non-tribal army based on strict disciplinary code of conduct and well defined salary structure. The symbol of excellence of the great Moghal's taste of construction is Taj Mehal and the manifestation of Sher Shah's thinking is Ruhtas Fort-a great fort built for maintaining order and security in North Punjab. This shows the sharp contrast in attitude. All these tasks were accomplished by him in just under 6 years between 1539 and 1544- a time period equal to today's term of a democratic government that our leaders normally find too short to construct a dam even with modern technology and resources. "Such was the state of safety of the highway," observes Nizam-ud-din (Akbar's Mir Bakhshi), who had no reason to be partial towards Sher Shah, "that if any one carried a purse full of gold (pieces) and slept in the desert (deserted places) for nights, there was no need for keeping watch." Mirza Aziz Koka, son of Ataga Khan, and probably Akbar's closest friend and one of the most important mansabdar's of the Mughal Empire (Sher Shah's arch rivals), wrote this to Emperor Jahangir in one of his personal letters to him: "Specially Sher Khan was not an angel (malak) but a king (malik). In six years he gave such stability to the structure (of the empire) that its foundations still survive. He had made India flourish in such a way that the king of Persia and Turan appreciate it, and have a desire to look at it. Hazrat Arsh Ashiyani (Akbar the great) followed his administrative manual (zawabit) for fifty years and did not discontinue them. In the same India due to able administration of the well wishers of the court, nothing is left except rabble and jungles..."

Sher Shah's life style, leadership and interaction with friends and enemies were a classic manifestation of "Pakhtunwali"-the Pashtun way of conduct. He was not a soldier of fortune and unlike most famous historical personalities of that time whether in Asia or in Europe, he didn't inherit any wealth or power from a royal background. He planned his career carefully and tactfully from a humble position to throne of India as the most popular ruler of his time. He started as the caretaker of his father's estate to learn the basics of administration, joined the services of local courts of Bihar to learn the basics of government and then joined the Mughal court to learn about the weaknesses of Mughals and Rajput Courts (his future rivals) who according to him was far from the populace due to corrupt practices and conspiracies involving women, and undemocratic court structures inherited from Mongoloid and Hindu traditions. The accounts of the contemporary historians speak of his belief in himself and uncompromising pride in his cultural values that made him sure of success and gave him a "killer instinct" of "planning like a fox and attacking like a lion". Like a true Pashtun, he was ruthless in his onslaught, fierce in his defence but extremely forgiving of his defeated enemy-a quality of character unknown at his time when enemies used to be decimated or enslaved. His excellent treatment and respect for ladies of Mughal court was testified by the sister of his worst rival Hamayun (Gulbadan Begum, Emperor Akbar's aunt and author of Hamayun Nama). He excelled himself in the study of his religion and Persian classics of that time but despite being an orthodox Muslim and proud Afghan, he was far from intolerant religious extremism and racist ethno-nationalism. On the contrary, he used the true spirit of his religion and cultural values for the benefit of the region that ruled which happened to have more non-Muslims than Muslims and where his own ethnic nation was an absolute minority. His life and achievements gave birth to an idiom that "A true Khan always excel and is a born king"; that is why we see so many individuals called "King Khans" when they excel in sports or entertainment even if they have nothing to do with being a Pashtun.

Today those who associate Pashtuns with extremist Islamic militancy, intolerance, or ignorance in fact do so either due to ignorance propagated by sections of media or the due to the massive impact created by the actions of the foreign elements and ideas that have victimised Pashtuns and their culture more than they have caused any threat or damage to the rest of the world. The elements in fact are the products of the dirty Great Games brought to lands of Pashtuns by the regional and global powers due to their strategic importance. Whether it was the communist aggression or American invasion or the consequent Alqaida inspired reactionary militancy, Pashtun civilisation has nothing to do it nor has it a lot to do with their Islamic faith. Yes Pashtuns indeed has always jealously defended their independence and in fact defeated every imperialist power of their time but have never been imperialistic or intolerant extremists themselves. Whenever they ruled others, they brought stability and prosperity to the region under their rule and displayed a beautiful shade of Muslim civilisation.

No militant extremist idealise Sher Shah who represent an ordinary Pashtun-the common Khan who is the victim of aggression from every single imperialist of the modern history: from British colonialist to communist expansionist and now the American Imperialist and the cost of their constant fight for freedom left them poor and uneducated. The Khan who is a labourer, a watchman or taxi driver in Karachi and gets killed there in gang wars of rival political parties or in his own lands, get blown up in an attack by a suicide bomber or become roasted sandwich in fight between the army and the fanatic extremists who don't get their inspiration from Sher Khan but from twisted doctrines imported from elsewhere in the sacred name of Islam. Yes Sher Khan did inspire and even today inspires many Pashtuns to achieve excellence in adverse circumstances and rise out of dust to skies. Ahmad Shah Abdali (another great 18th century Pashtun ruler) idealised him and established the last stable and prosperous Muslim Kingdom comprising today's Afghanistan, Pakistan and Kashmir when the existence of Muslims were under threat from the rising Hindu revivalism and militancy after the fall of Mughal Empire hence providing stability to the region. Ahmad Shah Abdali writes in a Pashtu couplet:

د حميد او د فريد داوار به بيا شي
چه په تورو پښتانه کړه غوزارونه
The reign of Farid Khan and Hameed Lodhi will come back
Once the Pakhtuns start showing their skills of sword again
Doctor Khan Saib (first Chief Minister of Khyber Pukhtunkhwa and then of West Pakistan-bother of Bacha Khan) was a leftist liberal but considered Sher Shah as his inspiration due for being the first "socialist" king and for his personalised management style nevertheless the liberal secularists/ethnic nationalists have nothing to with do with Sher Shah's or Ahmad Shah's religious views. Even the cricketer turned politician Imran Khan (Niazi) term Sher Shah as his ultimate ideal due to his sense of justice and leadership style. Every ambitious Pashtun to his understanding take inspiration from the Real King Khan except the fanatic militant extremists whom unfortunately many think as representative of Pashtuns.

Source : khyber.org

Good leader but lol @ greatest leader since Caliph Umar (RA), that is just bias on the part of the writer.
 
Instead Of Celebrating Differences Shouldn't We Celebrate that we Are One Qaum And one Nation PAKISTAN :pakistan:

We Have to eradicate differences and Become One for the sake of Our Country's Progress And prosperity. :pakistan:

I have no doubt in my mind that Pashtons are as good a Pakistani as any other ethnic group. To ask them to leave their history and culture for sake of nationhood would be wrong considering that Pashtoons always have been in the mainstream of Pakistan be it politics, trade or army. (Don't let Afghanistanis cloud your judgement :D).
 
so what would be next?

Punjabi , Sindhi, balochi, kashmiri, hindko corner lol

Nothing against any ethnicity but people can only be united if their pride in nation/country is stronger than pride in their t ethnicity. All the races/ethnicity are beautiful in their own unique way BUT too much pride in race contribute towards racism, prejudices and stereotypes. It don't make sense to have pride in something you have no choice over i.e colour, race, ethnicity, country etc. Islam is very simple and beautiful when it address to mankind

"O mankind! We have created you male and female, and have made you nations and tribes that ye may know one another. Lo! the noblest of you, in the sight of Allah, is the best in conduct. Lo! Allah is Knower, Aware"
 
I disagree with any ethnic thread...
we are already so full of ourselves and so puffed up with regional/ethnic pride that there is no room for something called "national pride".
Far right nationalism is equivalent to Neo-Nazi-ism ...Dont want that...

Nothing wrong with posting information about known Pukhtun personalities who have great achievements to their credit.
 
Let, me play the devils advocate here, but after seeing this [first of its kind] thread, do wait until someone opens up a similar thread. Headace for me!

you do have Tamil shami/ kerala sherala chats dont you?

anyway there can be one separate section "Colours of Pakistan" where one can post about all personalities that have any connection with 5 provinces of Pakistan.

It could be their ethnic affiliation even if NOT the nationality.


after all we celeberated BD of Dilip Kumar .
 
you do have Tamil shami/ kerala sherala chats dont you?

anyway there can be one separate section "Colours of Pakistan" where one can post about all personalities that have any connection with 5 provinces of Pakistan.

It could be their ethnic affiliation even if NOT the nationality.


after all we celeberated BD of Dilip Kumar .



How about i, change the title to "Colors of Pashtun culture" or something, because "Pashtun Corner" - me playing devils advocate again gives an impression that no one else should post inside. But,ofcourse if the OP and other members suggest so.
 
How about i, change the title to "Colors of Pashtun culture" or something, because "Pashtun Corner" - me playing devils advocate again gives an impression that no one else should post inside. But,ofcourse if the OP and other members suggest so.

also change the word Pashtun its used by farsieds we use the word Pukhtuns.

The word culture will limit it to customs only so we should come up with some other title.

may be Historical Pukhtun personalities

But Colors of Pakistan will be better to be open to all 5 provinces of Pakistan and enthnicities
 
How about i, change the title to "Colors of Pashtun culture" or something, because "Pashtun Corner" - me playing devils advocate again gives an impression that no one else should post inside. But,ofcourse if the OP and other members suggest so.

I have no problem with changing of title if you feels it is so much ethno-centric...kindly change it to "hujra" or "baitak".
 
also change the word Pashtun its used by farsieds we use the word Pukhtuns.

The word culture will limit it to customs only so we should come up with some other title.

may be Historical Pukhtun personalities

But Colors of Pakistan will be better to be open to all 5 provinces of Pakistan and enthnicities

I hope you are not serious. "Pashtun" is original word used in sheen dialect spoken by majority of pashtuns as sheen dialect is original pashto. Yousafzais migrated from kandahar, settled in present day KPK where their langauge got modified from sheen to kheen. E.g "hoshiar" is derived from farsi, kheen dialect modifies it to "hokhiar".
 
Palay Khan

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Palay Khan (Pashto: پا لے خان ‎) Palay Khan was called, Palay Shah Khosti and was belonged to the Khosti syed tribe of Zhob. Khosti,s had migrated from Khost Afghanistan. He was a freedom fighter and chief of a freedom fighters' group, which fought against the British Raj, in 1930s, at Balochistan, Pakistan then the Baluchistan, a Commissionerate Province.

Palay Khan never surrendered in agreement between his group and the British Raj against some compensation in favour of the earlier. The British promised him that they would accept the tribal laws as the constitution and laws for his land, that was announced for Zhob, the main area of his struggle.some versea of pashto epic poetry in praise of Palay Shah Khosti "Da Sarak ghary pa sray , Dalta khairat karai Palay" & "Zala tashty malashay , Da bam golai wali Palay."

Dramatic adaptations


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PTV Quetta Center produced a drama serial of 13 episodes on Palay Khan, Palay Shah as a tribute to his freedom movement. It was directed and produced by Sajjad Ahmad. The drama was shot 75% at the original locations in Balochistan. The role of Palay was played by Jamal Shah, and Palay's brother Katey Khan was portrayed by Hayatullah Khan Durrani. The rest of the cast included Sakina Samoo, Dr. Huma Meer, Orya Maqbool Jan, Amanullah Nasir, Rafiq Komboh, Hameed Sheikh. The serial was in Urdu but totally based on Pashtun culture. It was written with the assistance of the relatives of Palay Khan, living now in near Sinjavi district.

Bollywood made a movie Palay Khan, directed by Ashim Samanta and produced by Shakti Samanta. The movie is set in the time when the British ruled India. The whole of Hind was under their rule except for some small portion — mostly at the western side and in Pashtun areas, which always gave the Britishers a tough time. This land is protected by Palay Khan (Jackie Shroff) and his gang. General Barnes (Anupam Kher) orders Coloner Gulbaz Khan (Shakti Kapoor) — Palay's cousin who turned traitor — to capture Palay. But they realise that Palay Khan always is two steps ahead of them.
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The rest of the cast includes Suresh Oberoi, Farah, Poonam Dhillon, Satyen Kappu, Bob Christo, Raza Murad, and Mac Mohan.
 
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