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32 Brigadiers promoted to the Rank of Major General in Promotion Board: ISPR

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Rawalpindi, 26 July, 2022:Promotion board from Brigadier to Major General was held at General Headquarters today. Chief of Army Staff (COAS), General Qamar Javed Bajwa presided.
Those promoted include Brigadier Omer Naseem Brigadier Syed Abbas Ali, Brigadier Muhammad Abbas, Brigadier Muhammad Shahid Abro, Brigadier Luqman Hafeez, Brigadier Mohammad Yasir Elahi, Brigadier Adeel Haider Minhas, Brigadier Syed Ali Raza, Brigadier Shahid Pervaiz, Brigadier Ahsan Waqas Kayani, Brigadier Azhar Yasin Brigadier Qaisar Suleman, Brigadier Haroon Ishaq Raja, Brigadier Aamer Amin, Brigadier Haroon Hameed Chaudhary, Brigadier Waseem Iftikhar Cheema, Brigadier Muhammad Hussain, Brigadier Shoaib Bin Akram, Brigadier Kashif Khalil, Brigadier Kashif Abdullah, Brigadier Amjad Hanif Brigadier Faisal Naseer, Brigadier Ahmad Kamal and Brigadier Saeed Ur Rehman Sarwar.
Those approved from Army Medical Corps include Brigadier Tufail Ahmad, Brigadier Rizwan Sadiq, Brigadier Ijaz Ahmad, Brigadier Nadeem Fazal, Brigadier Shoaib Ahmed, Brigadier Tahir Masood Ahmad, Brigadier Waseem Ahmad Khan and Brigadier Sohail Sabir.


 
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So did the old brigadier’s retired? Or new ones are add on?
 
how many major generals military have at one time ? is there a set number or random?
 
US military is more than twice the size of pak mil in terms of manpower.
They also have much more trained and independent enlisted and NCOs compared to PA.
Generally military forces with a high ratio of senior officers end up being inefficient

Do people know that Pakistan Army has more generals than US army?

PA has 185 Maj gen 26 Ltg and 2 Gen = 213
US has 109 Mg 48 Ltg and 15 Gen = 172
Because the command structure of the US is more efficient in terms of ranks below that.
 
In US Mil NCOs can make life of officers miserable if his conduct is not in line with SOPs.
In other words it becomes a bureaucratic force than a fighting force because it has more desk generals.
That's is why they are one of best military force in the world.
A US NCO is more independent in decisions and authority than a Pakistani Colonel.
 
I love the shoulder ranks of brigadier, he have the most badges than any other even higher ranks.

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A US NCO is more independent in decisions and authority than a Pakistani Colonel.
Absolutely, they're trained to perform and *think*. Not to wait for *saab g hor ki krna ae?*

On the serious side, a US or any modern military NCO can perform anx think better than our LTs. Let alone our own low confidence NCO cadre, who are less trained to take action but to make sure not to piss the *Afsar*.
 
One major thing to now have a look is all those who are getting promoted now are those people who have spent most of their carriers in wars. From Kargil to war on terror. They have been involved in one conflict after another. So these people have quite a different mindset. Many even are those who have been injured in some war.
 
Absolutely, they're trained to perform and *think*. Not to wait for *saab g hor ki krna ae?*

On the serious side, a US or any modern military NCO can perform anx think better than our LTs. Let alone our own low confidence NCO cadre, who are less trained to take action but to make sure not to piss the *Afsar*.
That is not entirely true as it all subjective and depends upon the background, education and exposure of the Pakistani LT and conversely the US NCo as well. However , the US NCO has greater opportunities to get exposure and educate themselves versus the LT due to a variety of factors that includes multi-dimensional cross branch training and overseas deployments.

However, that is a function of both budget and some culture otherwise there is nothing that would prevent a Pakistani LT from being as or more independent and astute in their task than even a US Lt.

Keep in mind, new west point graduates are actually quite green in the field and take more time to acclimate versus the Pakistani counterparts who have more “real life” experience due to the culture and environment.

So it’s not all a lopsided story - what’s key is culture. In the US a Major or lt Colonel is considered a senior officer by even civilians and generally a rare sight while in Pakistan “har pathar ke neechay aik Major nikal raha hota hai”

All of them will now be assigned slave batman's who will be " Mujahids " but doing laundry and driving lady Fauji to buy Groceries from Imtiaz store :D
That culture has been changed quite a bit since Batmans are now the monetary responsibility of officers themselves much like the entire country.
 
That is not entirely true as it all subjective and depends upon the background, education and exposure of the Pakistani LT and conversely the US NCo as well. However , the US NCO has greater opportunities to get exposure and educate themselves versus the LT due to a variety of factors that includes multi-dimensional cross branch training and overseas deployments.

However, that is a function of both budget and some culture otherwise there is nothing that would prevent a Pakistani LT from being as or more independent and astute in their task than even a US Lt.

Keep in mind, new west point graduates are actually quite green in the field and take more time to acclimate versus the Pakistani counterparts who have more “real life” experience due to the culture and environment.

So it’s not all a lopsided story - what’s key is culture. In the US a Major or lt Colonel is considered a senior officer by even civilians and generally a rare sight while in Pakistan “har pathar ke neechay aik Major nikal raha hota hai”


That culture has been changed quite a bit since Batmans are now the monetary responsibility of officers themselves much like the entire country.

Just to expand on that point, talking with retired or senior officers in the Army, the WoT has done us some good as well, as far as making the army a pretty effective fighting force. If you compare the current lot with that from 2008 or thereabouts, the difference is day and night...and it even shows in daily affairs. Just look at an NCO manning a naka or a post in a cantt, their whole posture is different. Tactics and strategies have evolved, the mindeset has changed, authority in command has changed, and much more. Other militaries are very much inexperienced in this regard. I was reading an article the other day, and the conclusion was that Western militaries rely heavily on technological support and air superiority, which means their foot soldier is not as refined. I'll leave the conclusion to the jury.

But another interesting aspect of the current officer lot is the Instagram 'Laftain'. Every new 2nd Lt or PMA cadet seems more interested in instagram and taking pictures rather than doing their actual job. Just ask any girl these days who has an IG profile or a Twitter, and she'll tell you a tale of a guy coming into her DM's and flexing "Hi, 2nd Lt XYZ in Armored Corps, can I take you for a coffee".

The instagram laftains have often gotten into trouble as well because of these antics.
 

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