Ex President and Ex COAS General Pervez Musharraf Passes Away

[LeGenD]

Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi raji'un

Pervez Musharraf = the unsung HERO of Pakistan

His RULE wasn't without mistakes such as supporting MQM and giving NRO to controversial Pakistani politicians, but I have compiled a list of his notable achievements for the benefit of readers in this forum.

1. He had the guts to teach India a lesson in Kargil in response to loss of Siachin and creation of Bangladesh.

Kargil was in response to India's role in creation of Bangladesh: Musharraf

Musharraf, who masterminded the Kargil conflict in 1999 and ruled over Pakistan for nine years, said that India had played a role in creating Bangladesh and trying to seize Siachen.

www.hindustantimes.com

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Look at the rants of (coward) Nawaz Sharif in comparison.

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2. He saved Pakistan from global isolation (and possibly worse) after 9/11. He attempted to put Pakistan on the right track by pushing for measures to combat the menace of terrorism and act against Al-Qaeda Network in relation.

Relevant information in following book:

Amazon.com

This war concluded with dismantling of Al-Qaeda Network and Afghan Taliban pledging to not allow its remnants to plot attacks in other countries from Afghan soil in 2021.

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But (beloved) Imran Khan have turned this saga into a divisive issue. Khan should come to terms with Pakistan's role and legacy in US-led War On Terror even if he finds this saga distasteful.

Imran Khan’s incomplete narrative on the Taliban | Brookings

Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan has been asked, especially during his appearances at U.S. think tanks, about the relationship between Pakistan, terrorism, and the Taliban.

www.brookings.edu

Imran Khan’s Double Game

Following an assassination attempt, Pakistan’s former Prime Minister discusses his views on the Taliban, his relationship with the military, and why he’s more “evolved” than other people.

www.newyorker.com

Such good publicity...
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3. He played a vital role in improving Pakistani nuclear program. He created the National Command Authority (NCA) to this effect, and introduced ballistic missiles as a delivery platform for nuclear weapons.

U.S. Secretly Aids Pakistan in Guarding Nuclear Arms (Published 2007)

Debate is growing about whether an American classified program has done enough to help protect Pakistan’s nuclear weapons.

www.nytimes.com

Pakistani Nuclear Weapons Now Under PM | Arms Control Association

www.armscontrol.org

4. He saved Dr. Abdul Qadeer Khan in the face of Pakistan's embarrassing nuclear proliferation scandal when it came to light. And he set the record straight for who did what in developing and advancing Pakistan's nuclear program on the whole.

I am sorry if this hurts sentiments of some people, but about time WE accept FACTS. It's unfortunate that Dr. Khan misunderstood Musharraf's intentions and failed to appreciate him for saving his life.

5. He uplifted Pakistan's education system by creating Higher Education System (HEC).

Javed, M. A., & Ali, A. (2017). Educational development in Pakistan: A critical appraisal of muhammad pervez musharraf presidency (1999-2008). International Journal of Scientific and Research Publications, 7(3), 277-282.

6. He laid the foundation of Karakoram International University.

https://www.kiu.edu.pk/history/karakoram-international-university

7. He laid the foundation of Gwadar Port with support of China. This development paved way for the wider CPEC initiative.

Hussain, S. (2016). Politico-Economic significance of Gwadar port: Implications for regional integration (Doctoral dissertation, Hazara University, Mansehra, Pakistan).

Welcome to Pakistan Research Repository: POLITICO-ECONOMIC SIGNIFICANCE OF GWADAR PORT: IMPLICATIONS FOR REGIONAL INTEGRATION

prr.hec.gov.pk

8. He approved the Protection of Women Bill (2006) in the face of fierce opposition from Pakistani religious circles.

Musharraf signs women’s bill

ISLAMABAD, Dec 1: President Gen Pervez Musharraf signed into law the Protection of Women Bill, 2006, which amended...

www.dawn.com

Over a thousand women freed under change in law

Women prisoners in Pakistan freed under an amendment to a controversial Islamic law began to be released over the weekend. President General Pervez Musharraf amended the law, which has been on the statute book since 1979, on Friday.

www.thenewhumanitarian.org

Pakistan Council for Science & Technology

National Science, Technology and inovative Policy 2012

www.pcst.org.pk

9. He empowered Pakistani media

Hassan, K. (2017). Why did a military dictator liberalize the electronic media in Pakistan?. In Media as politics in south Asia (pp. 77-94). Routledge.

Why did a military dictator liberalize the electronic media in Pakista

General Musharraf's liberalization of the media surprised many. The Pakistani media liberalization case contradicts conventional arguments that dictatorships

www.taylorfrancis.com

 

[Meengla]

This video from Moeed Pirzada sums up things nicely. A few points:
1) Musharraf had a very 'humane' side unlike the cruel, 'makkar' Zia ul Haq.
2) Even before 9/11's American aid, Musharraf had started to revive the Pakistani economy between Oct. 1999 and 9/11; according to Moeed, Pakistan's economy was even worse than it is today as far as foreign reserves.
3) Among Musharraf's sin: The Kargil War and the killing of Akbar Bugti. I agree: Both were huge blunders.
4) Musharraf was an 'urbane' man.; intrinsically a liberal and a reformist. According to Moeed, the 'rural' background which afflicts most of Pakistan is hard to overcome.

 

[MastanKhan]

Saw a video today on an Indian channel: Musharraf was the most anti-India leader Pakistan had. Perhaps--but there is a close contest between him and Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto: Bhutto led Pakistan to 1965 and Musharraf to 1999. Both were futile but Musharraf's folly is particularly unforgiven because he should have learned from Bhutto's folly. Vajpayee came to Pakistan to make peace and even went to Minar e Pakistan in 1999 which was as an admission of the required acceptance of Pakistan as a State. The only defense for Musharraf is that he was angered by the Indian aggressed in 1984 in Siachen Glacier where Musharraf was involved and he wanted to payback India via Kargil. Indians are not some peace-loving doves at all . You give them an inch and they will take a yard.
Well, that's a perspective!! Peace only comes through understanding each other. Ask Germans and French!!!

Hi,

For what Mushharaf did at Kargil---that allowed him to make peace offering to India---.

 

[Type59]

Tough situation post 9/11. Kids on here don't realise the major implications of that day. Mushy did a sound job, but agree a mixed legacy.

 

[Clutch]

 

[Trailer23]

He ended up deleting that post, Lol.

#Pussy

What did you expect from a Multiple ID Rat?

It's just they all lie that they're not part of that sh!t-hole of a so-called Defense Forum.

 

[nahtanbob]

You make no sense.
The war against the Soviets in 1980s was a USA-USSR proxy war. Yes, a pro-India, Soviet dominated Afghanistan wouldn't be friendly to Pakistan but if you look at the other 'Stans', Afghanistan would have become yet another 'Stan': More educated and thus less averse to launching a war against a nuclear power like Pakistan. That would have been the trajectory for Afghanistan and Pakistan had the Soviets prevailed totally. This is only now being realized in Pakistan, albeit too late.

benefit of hindsight

 

[Maarkhoor]

Former Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf passes away at 79

DUBAI – Former military ruler and President Pervez Musharraf has passed away on Sunday at American Hospital in UAE after a prolonged illness. The

en.dailypakistan.com.pk

Former chief of army staff and President Pervez Musharraf has passed away on Sunday at American Hospital in UAE after a prolonged illness.
Local media reports quoting his family members said the former four-star general succumbed to Amyloidosis. He was hospitalised for a couple of weeks due to a complication of his ailment, per reports.

Musharraf was the tenth president of the South Asian nation after the successful military coup in 1999. He served as the 10th CJCSC from 1998 to 2001 and the 7th top general from 1998 to 2007.

Former president and army chief Pervez Musharraf passes away in Dubai

Former president and army chief Pervez Musharraf passes away in Dubai

dunyanews.tv

 

[Goritoes]

Hi,

For what Mushharaf did at Kargil---that allowed him to make peace offering to India---.

He was a Commando, so from his POV his thinking was right, you can not bring a enemy 10 times bigger than you to negotiating table with favorable terms for yourself, he forced them by power projection, if PA (of that time) can do what they did in Kargil with such limited resources, than if the operation was planned properly and initiated with Navy/AF combined, IA losses will be in thousands and IA will be forced to accept terms which will be in Pakistan's favor.

America was the mad Elephant after 9/11, you don't want to be in its way cause it would crumble you. He could have done a better job with handling Americans but of course we are not in his shoes, and we would never know what kind of Threats USA throw at Pakistan. No leader would've stood any chance against the USA Pressure, we are lucky that after 9/11 Pakistan did survived and not just that but Pakistan economy was booming, but thanks to extremists, Afghans and Afghan supporters Pakistan become the epicenter of Terrorism.

 

[AlKardai]

Didn't read the entire thread, so don't know whether somebody mentioned it already or not but a thought just came to my mind - Musharaff passed away on Kashmir Solidarity Day (Feb 5th).

That’s almost poetic.

 

[villageidiot]

Good luck to you guys then

Yup. He's talking about what the military should do. As if, one pleasant morning, the military is going to just up and start doing what they should do.

Change can only be brought by making the military do what they should. Not beseeching them to do what they should.

No one willingly gives up power. Esp. inferiority complex ridden people, the likes of which have been our rulers so far.

 

[Dreamer.]

Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi raji'un

Pervez Musharraf = the unsung HERO of Pakistan

Dil ke behlanay ko Ghalib, ye khayal acha hay!!

He was a traitor who not only sold the motherland but quite literally its people aswell.

Count his alleged "acheivements" all you want but that can't change the reality of what he did to Pakistan.

 

[ghazi52]

,..,.,

 

[VCheng]

Change can only be brought by making the military do what they should.

And just HOW could one (or a few million, even) make it do anything that it does not want to do itself?

 

[blain2]

Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi raji'un

Pervez Musharraf = the unsung HERO of Pakistan

His RULE wasn't without mistakes such as supporting MQM and giving NRO to controversial Pakistani politicians, but I have compiled a list of his notable achievements for the benefit of readers in this forum.

1. He had the guts to teach India a lesson in Kargil in response to loss of Siachin and creation of Bangladesh.

Kargil was in response to India's role in creation of Bangladesh: Musharraf

Musharraf, who masterminded the Kargil conflict in 1999 and ruled over Pakistan for nine years, said that India had played a role in creating Bangladesh and trying to seize Siachen.

www.hindustantimes.com

----
Look at the rants of (coward) Nawaz Sharif in comparison.

----

2. He saved Pakistan from global isolation (and possibly worse) after 9/11. He attempted to put Pakistan on the right track by pushing for measures to combat the menace of terrorism and act against Al-Qaeda Network in relation.

Relevant information in following book:

Amazon.com

This war concluded with dismantling of Al-Qaeda Network and Afghan Taliban pledging to not allow its remnants to plot attacks in other countries from Afghan soil in 2021.

----
But (beloved) Imran Khan have turned this saga into a divisive issue. Khan should come to terms with Pakistan's role and legacy in US-led War On Terror even if he finds this saga distasteful.

Imran Khan’s incomplete narrative on the Taliban | Brookings

Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan has been asked, especially during his appearances at U.S. think tanks, about the relationship between Pakistan, terrorism, and the Taliban.

www.brookings.edu

Imran Khan’s Double Game

Following an assassination attempt, Pakistan’s former Prime Minister discusses his views on the Taliban, his relationship with the military, and why he’s more “evolved” than other people.

www.newyorker.com

Such good publicity...
----

3. He played a vital role in improving Pakistani nuclear program. He created the National Command Authority (NCA) to this effect, and introduced ballistic missiles as a delivery platform for nuclear weapons.

U.S. Secretly Aids Pakistan in Guarding Nuclear Arms (Published 2007)

Debate is growing about whether an American classified program has done enough to help protect Pakistan’s nuclear weapons.

www.nytimes.com

Pakistani Nuclear Weapons Now Under PM | Arms Control Association

www.armscontrol.org

4. He saved Dr. Abdul Qadeer Khan in the face of Pakistan's embarrassing nuclear proliferation scandal when it came to light. And he set the record straight for who did what in developing and advancing Pakistan's nuclear program on the whole.

I am sorry if this hurts sentiments of some people, but about time WE accept FACTS. It's unfortunate that Dr. Khan misunderstood Musharraf's intentions and failed to appreciate him for saving his life.

5. He uplifted Pakistan's education system by creating Higher Education System (HEC).

Javed, M. A., & Ali, A. (2017). Educational development in Pakistan: A critical appraisal of muhammad pervez musharraf presidency (1999-2008). International Journal of Scientific and Research Publications, 7(3), 277-282.

6. He laid the foundation of Karakoram International University.

https://www.kiu.edu.pk/history/karakoram-international-university

7. He laid the foundation of Gwadar Port with support of China. This development paved way for the wider CPEC initiative.

Hussain, S. (2016). Politico-Economic significance of Gwadar port: Implications for regional integration (Doctoral dissertation, Hazara University, Mansehra, Pakistan).

Welcome to Pakistan Research Repository: POLITICO-ECONOMIC SIGNIFICANCE OF GWADAR PORT: IMPLICATIONS FOR REGIONAL INTEGRATION

prr.hec.gov.pk

8. He approved the Protection of Women Bill (2006) in the face of fierce opposition from Pakistani religious circles.

Musharraf signs women’s bill

ISLAMABAD, Dec 1: President Gen Pervez Musharraf signed into law the Protection of Women Bill, 2006, which amended...

www.dawn.com

Over a thousand women freed under change in law

Women prisoners in Pakistan freed under an amendment to a controversial Islamic law began to be released over the weekend. President General Pervez Musharraf amended the law, which has been on the statute book since 1979, on Friday.

www.thenewhumanitarian.org

Pakistan Council for Science & Technology

National Science, Technology and inovative Policy 2012

www.pcst.org.pk

9. He empowered Pakistani media

Hassan, K. (2017). Why did a military dictator liberalize the electronic media in Pakistan?. In Media as politics in south Asia (pp. 77-94). Routledge.

Why did a military dictator liberalize the electronic media in Pakista

General Musharraf's liberalization of the media surprised many. The Pakistani media liberalization case contradicts conventional arguments that dictatorships

www.taylorfrancis.com

All those ranting about betrayal of FATA etc. by Musharraf should realize that had he not done what he did (call it running with the hare and hunting with the hounds if you prefer), Afghanistan would not be in the hands of Pashtuns. It would have been firmly in the hands of Northern Alliance. I wonder then what his detractors on FATA would say.
Essentially Musharraf laid the foundation for what eventually transpired with the US withdrawal in Afghanistan.
There was a cost to be paid.
He did not let the Americans dominate Pakistan despite all the talk of giving in to the Americans. He played it tactfully giving rope where he could and being steadfast where he absolutely needed to be. This was solid leadership in extremely testing times.

There are other qualities of the man that are known to those who have engaged with him up close. Regardless of his external demeanor which may have come across as brash, arrogant, however in reality and in personal settings he was a humble, simple person. I say this knowing quite a few interactions. Most here who criticize do so because of the second-hand, overly politicized narrative about him. There is absolutely no questioning of his love for the country.

I will always have high regard for him. Inna lillahi wa inna alaihi rajaoun.