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Mecca Royal Clock Hotel Tower is an insult to Islam and to taste

The second you posted.

I ask again. Do you know how the final expansion is going to look like and the areas surrounding Masjid al-Haram. It is a genuine question and you should know before criticizing.

@mafiya I hear that there soon will be and pilgrims should raise this criticism because I will when I return.

Since place is already jam pack by fast food restaurants. I don't think any proper restaurant IF open would be less than 1 KM away from haram., and the nearest restaurant I had to walk by to get a proper dinner was approx 2 KM away from Haram sharif.

There is no point of raising criticism since things has been build and can't be undone.
 
The towar should have been built far away from Masjidul Haram to avoid distraction of Hajis during pilgrimage. Now it looks like a Devil's tower distracting peoples attention from Ka'aba.

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Since place is already jam pack by fast food restaurants. I don't think any proper restaurant IF open would be less than 1 KM away from haram., and the nearest restaurant I had to walk by to get a proper dinner was approx 2 KM away from Haram sharif.

There is no point of raising criticism since things has been build and can't be undone.

It is because it is the most convenient solution and because of the demand. You have pilgrims from across the entire world and what unites them all in terms of culinary experience is that they know the fast food chains present not far away. In a perfect world they would have sticked to local cuisine, other ME cuisines (Turkish, Iranian), South Asian (Pakistani, Indian), South East Asian (Indonesian and Malaysian) - there is actually an Malaysian restaurant not far away, African (Nigerian etc.) etc. But the restaurants would not be your ordinary restaurants since the demand would be too big and they would probably look more like fast food chains.

Well it's all about demand. So it can be changed.

@IamBengali

Ok, you are ignoring my questions I see. Which Devil's Tower?:cuckoo:
 
I agree with the original post.

Its disgusting, Its distasteful and is disrespectful to the holy site of Kaaba. I have seen it and I did not like for one bit.

Saudis are turning the most respectful place in Islam into Las Vegas of pilgrimage. The more you can afford, the better is the view of Kaaba Baitullah.

All this while all the holy sites have been gradually demolished. Saudis say the historic places were demolished as it invites 'shirk'. So then a question should be asked, if those place were not worth protecting, why should Saudi kings be immortalized by naming the gates of Mecca after them?
 
Mecca is “turning into Vegas”

Over the past 10 years the holiest site in Islam has undergone a huge transformation, one that has divided opinion among Muslims all over the world.



Once a dusty desert town struggling to cope with the ever-increasing number of pilgrims arriving for the annual Hajj, the city now soars above its surroundings with a glittering array of skyscrapers, shopping malls and luxury hotels.

To the al-Saud monarchy, Mecca is their vision of the future – a steel and concrete metropolis built on the proceeds of enormous oil wealth that showcases their national pride.

Yet growing numbers of citizens, particularly those living in the two holy cities of Mecca and Medina, have looked on aghast as the nation’s archaeological heritage is trampled under a construction mania backed by hardline clerics who preach against the preservation of their own heritage. Mecca, once a place where the Prophet Mohamed insisted all Muslims would be equal, has become a playground for the rich, critics say, where naked capitalism has usurped spirituality as the city’s raison d’être.

Few are willing to discuss their fears openly because of the risks associated with criticising official policy in the authoritarian kingdom. And, with the exceptions of Turkey and Iran, fellow Muslim nations have largely held their tongues for fear of of a diplomatic fallout and restrictions on their citizens’ pilgrimage visas. Western archaeologists are silent out of fear that the few sites they are allowed access to will be closed to them.

But a number of prominent Saudi archaeologists and historians are speaking up in the belief that the opportunity to save Saudi Arabia’s remaining historical sites is closing fast.

“No one has the balls to stand up and condemn this cultural vandalism,” says Dr Irfan al-Alawi who, as executive director of the Islamic Heritage Research Foundation, has fought in vain to protect his country’s historical sites. “We have already lost 400-500 sites. I just hope it’s not too late to turn things around.”

Sami Angawi, a renowned Saudi expert on the region’s Islamic architecture, is equally concerned. “This is an absolute contradiction to the nature of Mecca and the sacredness of the house of God,” he told the Reuters news agency earlier this year. “Both [Mecca and Medina] are historically almost finished. You do not find anything except skyscrapers.”

Dr Alawi’s most pressing concern is the planned £690m expansion of the Grand Mosque, the most sacred site in Islam which contains the Kaaba – the black stone cube built by Ibrahim (Abraham) that Muslims face when they pray.

Construction officially began earlier this month with the country’s Justice Minister, Mohammed al-Eissa, exclaiming that the project would respect “the sacredness and glory of the location, which calls for the highest care and attention of the servants or Islam and Muslims”.

The 400,000 square metre development is being built to accommodate an extra 1.2 million pilgrims each year and will turn the Grand Mosque into the largest religious structure in the world. But the Islamic Heritage Foundation has compiled a list of key historical sites that they believe are now at risk from the ongoing development of Mecca, including the old Ottoman and Abbasi sections of the Grand Mosque, the house where the Prophet Mohamed was born and the house where his paternal uncle Hamza grew up.

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There is little argument that Mecca and Medina desperately need infrastructure development. Twelve million pilgrims visit the cities every year with the numbers expected to increase to 17 million by 2025.

But critics fear that the desire to expand the pilgrimage sites has allowed the authorities to ride roughshod over the area’s cultural heritage. The Washington-based Gulf Institute estimates that 95 per cent of Mecca’s millennium-old buildings have been demolished in the past two decades alone.

The destruction has been aided by Wahabism, the austere interpretation of Islam that has served as the kingdom’s official religion ever since the al-Sauds rose to power across the Arabian Peninsula in the 19th century.

In the eyes of Wahabis, historical sites and shrines encourage “shirq” – the sin of idolatry or polytheism – and should be destroyed. When the al-Saud tribes swept through Mecca in the 1920s, the first thing they did was lay waste to cemeteries holding many of Islam’s important figures. They have been destroying the country’s heritage ever since. Of the three sites the Saudis have allowed the UN to designate World Heritage Sites, none are related to Islam.

Those circling the Kaaba only need to look skywards to see the latest example of the Saudi monarchy’s insatiable appetite for architectural bling. At 1,972ft, the Royal Mecca Clock Tower, opened earlier this year, soars over the surrounding Grand Mosque, part of an enormous development of skyscrapers that will house five-star hotels for the minority of pilgrims rich enough to afford them.

To build the skyscraper city, the authorities dynamited an entire mountain and the Ottoman era Ajyad Fortress that lay on top of it. At the other end of the Grand Mosque complex, the house of the Prophet’s first wife Khadijah has been turned into a toilet block. The fate of the house he was born in is uncertain. Also planned for demolition are the Grand Mosque’s Ottoman columns which dare to contain the names of the Prophet’s companions, something hardline Wahabis detest.

For ordinary Meccans living in the mainly Ottoman-era town houses that make up much of what remains of the old city, development often means the loss of their family home.

Non-Muslims cannot visit Mecca and Medina, but The Independent was able to interview a number of citizens who expressed discontent over the way their town was changing. One young woman whose father recently had his house bulldozed described how her family was still waiting for compensation. “There was very little warning; they just came and told him that the house had to be bulldozed,” she said.

Another Meccan added: “If a prince of a member of the royal family wants to extend his palace he just does it. No one talks about it in public though. There’s such a climate of fear.”

Dr Alawi hopes the international community will finally begin to wake up to what is happening in the cradle of Islam. “We would never allow someone to destroy the Pyramids, so why are we letting Islam’s history disappear?”

Under Threat

Bayt al-Mawlid

When the Wahabis took Mecca in the 1920s they destroyed the dome on top of the house where the Prophet Mohammed was born. It was thenused as a cattle market before being turned into a library after a campaign by Meccans. There are concerns that the expansion of the Grand Mosque will destroy it once more. The site has never been excavated by archaeologists.

Ottoman and Abasi columns of the Grand Mosque

Slated for demolition as part of the Grand Mosque expansion, these intricately carved columns date back to the 17th century and are the oldest surviving sections of Islam’s holiest site. Much to the chagrin of Wahabis, they are inscribed with the names of the Prophet’s companions. Ottomon Mecca is now rapidly disappearing

Al-Masjid al-Nawabi

For many years, hardline Wahabi clerics have had their sites set on the 15th century green dome that rests above the tomb holding the Prophet, Abu Bakr and Umar in Medina. The mosque is regarded as the second holiest site in Islam. Wahabis, however, believe marked graves are idolatrous. A pamphlet published in 2007 by the Saudi Ministry of Islamic Affa

Mecca is "turning into Vegas" | MuslimVillage.com
 
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21st century solutions for 21st century problems. They can't demolish everything and replace them with outdated structures just because they look good. There will be almost 2 billion Muslims in the world by 2030 which means a large increase in the number of pilgrims which demands structural upgrades to take them in. Would you rather be roaming in a 21st century looking structure which keeps you safe or get killed while doing the Sai'i ?

Exactly. The world is changing, with 2 billion Muslims in the near future, structural upgrades are needed to accommodate the growing number of pilgrims.

Sometimes I think people complain just for the sake of complaining.
 
I agree with the original post.

Its disgusting, Its distasteful and is disrespectful to the holy site of Kaaba. I have seen it and I did not like for one bit.

Saudis are turning the most respectful place in Islam into Las Vegas of pilgrimage. The more you can afford, the better is the view of Kaaba Baitullah.

All this while all the holy sites have been gradually demolished. Saudis say the historic places were demolished as it invites 'shirk'. So then a question should be asked, if those place were not worth protecting, why should Saudi kings be immortalized by naming the gates of Mecca after them?

They have named their country Saudi Arabia. Not Islamic Arabia. They have immortalized Saud family by naming Arabia as Saudi Arabia and doing biggest shirk and now these Wahabis give lessons to others about Shirk. If Bangladesh was named Awami Bangalia these Saudis would have said you Awamist naming your country over a party but when it comes to them they are perfectly OK with demolition of historic sites of Muslims because its done by Saudi Royal family. :tdown:
 
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Exactly. The world is changing, with 2 billion Muslims in the near future, structural upgrades are needed to accommodate the growing number of pilgrims.

Sometimes I think people complain just for the sake of complaining.

Will the Chinese government allow the building of a mega monstrosity right next to the emperor's palace in the forbidden city?
 
are calling this clock tower the eye of Sauran [ from Lord of the Rings ] :o:

Hi,

So true---what an ugly and over powering structure over shadowing the house of God.

If it was upto me---I would stop all haj and umrah from pakistan till all of pakistans debts are paid of. It sickens me when I see my countrymen living in utter poverty and pakistanis performing haj and umrah---speciall those going to umrah multiple times.

I told my mother the same thing---told her---donate your money and build a life for a poor family---Allah would reward you with 10 times---and how do you know if your haj gets accepted---. I told her the same thing for myself---whenever I have the money for haj---I will donate it.

During my visit to pakistan a few days ago----my cousin who had gone for umrah---asked me when am I going---I told no---I ain't---I will donate that money to a poor family in pakistan.
 
Will the Chinese government allow the building of a mega monstrosity right next to the emperor's palace in the forbidden city?

Cant speak on behalf of the Chinese, but something like this will never be allowed to come up in Varanasi, for example.
 
Hi,

So true---what an ugly and over powering structure over shadowing the house of God.

If it was upto me---I would stop all haj and umrah from pakistan till all of pakistans debts are paid of. It sickens me when I see my countrymen living in utter poverty and pakistanis performing haj and umrah---speciall those going to umrah multiple times.

I told my mother the same thing---told her---donate your money and build a life for a poor family---Allah would reward you with 10 times---and how do you know if your haj gets accepted---. I told her the same thing for myself---whenever I have the money for haj---I will donate it.

During my visit to pakistan a few days ago----my cousin who had gone for umrah---asked me when am I going---I told no---I ain't---I will donate that money to a poor family in pakistan.

ma sha Allah, what an excellent brother you are. Pakistaniyo! Dekho bahar bhi Pakistani hain jo payar karte hain aur tarapte hain apne mulk ke liye :pakistan::yay:
 
Hi,

So true---what an ugly and over powering structure over shadowing the house of God.

If it was upto me---I would stop all haj and umrah from pakistan till all of pakistans debts are paid of. It sickens me when I see my countrymen living in utter poverty and pakistanis performing haj and umrah---speciall those going to umrah multiple times.

I told my mother the same thing---told her---donate your money and build a life for a poor family---Allah would reward you with 10 times---and how do you know if your haj gets accepted---. I told her the same thing for myself---whenever I have the money for haj---I will donate it.

During my visit to pakistan a few days ago----my cousin who had gone for umrah---asked me when am I going---I told no---I ain't---I will donate that money to a poor family in pakistan.
Hajj becomes farz once one has the means and has the physical/mental ability to carry it out.

And for those who have the resources to reach there – [the House of their Lord] – on them is an obligation to perform for Allah the Hajj of this House. (3:97)
 
As long as the Mc Donalds is far far away from the Haram Shareef. The problem is that it is a symbol of greed and wantonness. Diseases of the heart. They are contrary to the perceived general sacredness of the Haram Shareef. I am not pointing out McDonalds. Just the commercialization of the Haram area of Makkah.

The Turks did not want Gezi Park becoming a mall.

People come to Haram Shareef to change their lives, to be spiritual. Not to indulge in the same ego activities they were indulging in back home. This is common sense. There are examples of sacred sites from all around the world, but generally this is the case.

the tower looks beautiful ,nothing wrong with it, though I agree, accommodation's should be affordable so that everybody can perform the pilgrimage, expansion of Masjid-Al Haram is necessary to cater to the growing populations of the pilgrims
& what's wrong with having McDonald's ? as long as its halal is just fine
so chill & enjoy a big mac



@al-Hasani bro I was among the first customers to get my hands on a MacDonald's burger when it opened in Corniche , in Jeddah , I also loved al-dewans & pizza sheikh, fun times pizza (barty time with the garals !) ,tazej & the one & only al baik , man just loved that broast !
 
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