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Lol flying over mountains would boost Chinese confidence for what?? The Chinese/Pakistan made JF-17s regularly fly across the mountainous border without any issues.

You should test your Teja to fly over mountains and test whether your samosa gets cold over mountains or not 😂😂😜

PAF has been flying the F6s over the hump since the 60s.
 
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Why do people think US would allow the sale of any F-16s (used, new blk 52 or 72) or any related upgrades (V) when they have refused to release Zulus, and worst have even refused to allow the export license for T129 engines to Pakistan for which it was going to pay out of its pocket. I do believe it was something evaluated against the indian Rafael acquisition and compared to J10C. PAF eventually decided to the Chinese route and new F16 are now history (for sometime now).

don’t know Bajwa is going to the US

Anyone who has been watching PAF since the 90s.. It doesn’t feel real, stuff of dreams.

I fully agree it feels soooooo different now , who would have believed this….. as a tribute please enjoy this oldy Goldie video


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Ill do it -
Everything including funds exists except the DSCA notices and approval. It really is up to Pakistan to pull that trigger and see where it goes. Even the config has been pretty much decided including 120C-8s and 9Xs.

18 new builds(options for X more) with upgrades for Block-52 fleet as part of package.
Unit price is slightly more as offered to Bahrian due to additional systems and twice the normal spares.
Bhai pajeets hidden as visitors will shit their pants 😂😂😂
 
Yes.



What I suggested has little to do with US Pakistanis relations. The real question is whether Pakistan will bold enough to accept the F-16Vs when the time comes.

That said, nothing is for certain. We will know when the time comes, if at all.
For our Pakistani friends, I believe he is hinting at receiving your F-16Vs from China after a certain 'island' issue is settled.
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Images of what is claimed to be Pakistan’s first two J-10C multi-role fighter jets have surfaced on social media. Islamabad is reportedly acquiring the Chinese-made aircraft in response to India’s purchase of Rafale jets.

The first squadron of 25 J-10Cs, the latest variant of China’s J-10, is likely to arrive soon, as previous reports said that these jets will perform a flypast at the Pakistan Day parade on March 23, 2022. The single-engine medium-weight fighters are being acquired to modernize the Pakistan Air force (PAF).

The order is crucial for the Chinese aerospace sector because it’s the first time the J-10 has been sold outside of China. The images were purportedly shot at the Chengdu Aircraft Corporation’s (CAC) factory in Sichuan province. A jet with the PAF insignia is seen taking a test flight.

The serial numbers 22-102 and 22-106 are also visible in the close-ups, implying that at least two aircraft are being tested.

Equipped With WS-10B Engine

China is putting a lot of effort to reduce its reliance on Russian engines. One of the J-10s seen in the picture appears to be equipped with a Chinese-made WS-10B Taihang engine. The J-10A and J-10B variants are powered by the Russian AL-31F engine.

A few images doing the rounds on Twitter in December showed several rows of J-10s in CAC’s assembly line, fuelling speculation that they were destined for Pakistan. China has not made any official announcements about the Pakistani order yet.

Pakistan’s Interior Minister, Sheikh Rashid, told reporters in Rawalpindi on December 29 that a squadron of 25 Chinese-made “JS-10” planes would perform a flypast at the Pakistan Day parade on March 23. According to the ministry, the Chinese jets are being acquired in “reaction to India’s Rafale jets”.

Previous reports suggested that Pakistan was set to purchase 36 J-10C semi-stealth 4.5 generation aircraft from China, but neither side has confirmed this so far. However, there is no clarity on why this number has been reduced to 25.

These aircraft will join Pakistan’s existing fleet of JF-17 fighter jets, which were jointly developed by Beijing and Islamabad as part of a large-scale program.

China and Pakistan are also producing the latest JF-17 Block III version, which features a new active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar, a helmet-mounted display, beyond-visual-range (BVR) missiles, as well as other improvements.

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Chengdu 10 (via Wikipedia Commons)
PAF pilots were introduced to the J-10 as part of the Shaheen series of joint Sino-Pakistani exercises. The J-10C is far more advanced in terms of aerodynamics and avionics than the JF-17 and is a considerably bigger jet with a higher payload.



An infrared search and track and laser rangefinder dome in front of the cockpit and a glass cockpit with a wide-angle holographic head-up display are salient features of the J-10C.

The diverterless supersonic inlet used on the J-10B has been retained on the new variant. The new AESA radar is housed in the radome and will work with the same active-radar-guided PL-15 air-to-air missiles that the PAF has previously purchased for its latest JF-17 Block III fighters. These missiles have a dual-pulse motor that provides them a longer range

J-10C To Counter India’s Rafale?

It is said that Pakistan’s decision to buy J-10s is to counter its key regional adversary, India. The Indian Air Force will soon receive the last of the 36 Rafale fighters ordered from France. Furthermore, the country is looking to procure 114 multi-role fighters.

The 4.5-generation Rafale has a number of advantages over the J-10, including improved all-around performance, advanced avionics, electronic warfare systems, and a potentially wider range of weaponry, including ramjet-powered Meteor BVR missiles.

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IAF Rafale. (Wikimedia Commons)
Nonetheless, by purchasing a similar ‘4.5 generation’ fighter, PAF is trying to remain as modern as possible. The blend of modern sensors and weapons such as AESA and PL-15 missiles could give PAF J-10C an advantage over other fighter jets in IAF’s inventory.

Considering China-Pakistan’s hostile relations with India, it’s possible that the PAF J-10s could be modified to carry airborne nuclear weapons in the near future. At present, PAF Mirage jets are tasked with such missions, although they are in urgent need of replacements.
 
First of all when it comes to twin jet I won't rule out that because even in 5th Generation most probably we would have to go for twin engine. But no Mr Tipu is not referring to twin engine as of now.

Well PAF still operates A-5 Fantan aka bomb Truck which is a TWIN engine jet. These A-5s are getting replaced soon with something else.
 
Great news. J10Cs and JF-17s B3 equipped with pl15s and AESA are enough to send shivers down IAF spines. Not to mention approx 76 F16s with Aim120s. Our airforce has come a long way not many nations in the world have such modern and wide variety of BVRS. India will have to think ten times now before doing any misadventure. Our air defence units too have Long range and multi tier SAMs making our air defence impregnable.
 
Compare this to BD, the self declared GDP growth rate (self assesed) champion, acquiring 8 (eight) Mig-29s in 1999! Since then, it's a dead stop for her AF even when Burma can intrude into her airspace and stay there at will.....


99% literacy, self declared gdp yet they wear the shackles of slavery.
I ve always stated that Bangladesh doesn’t need modern military hardware. They don’t have anyone to use it against. They are practically a subservient vassal of India. So what little threat they have from Myanmar, they should cover that by getting into a defence pact with India. I mean they’ve already surrendered their freedom so might as well.
 

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