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Reuters) - Pakistani militants, who have escalated attacks in recent weeks, killed at least 41 people in two separate incidents, officials said on Sunday, challenging assertions that military offensives have broken the back of hardline Islamist groups.

The United States has long pressured nuclear-armed ally Pakistan to crack down harder on both homegrown militants groups such as the Taliban and others which are based on its soil and attack Western forces in Afghanistan.

In the north, 21 men working for a government-backed paramilitary force were executed overnight after they were kidnapped last week, a provincial official said.

Twenty Shi'ite pilgrims died and 24 were wounded, meanwhile, when a car bomb targeted their bus convoy as it headed toward the Iranian border in the southwest, a doctor said.

New York-based Human Rights Watch has noted more than 320 Shias killed this year in Pakistan and said attacks were on the rise. It said the government's failure to catch or prosecute attackers suggested it was "indifferent" to the killings.

Pakistan, seen as critical to U.S. efforts to stabilize the region before NATO forces withdraw from Afghanistan by the end of 2014, denies allegations that it supports militant groups like the Afghan Taliban and Haqqani network.

Afghan officials say Pakistan seems more genuine than ever about promoting peace in Afghanistan.

At home, it faces a variety of highly lethal militant groups that carry out suicide bombings, attack police and military facilities and launch sectarian attacks like the one on the bus in the southwest.

Witnesses said a blast targeted their three buses as they were overtaking a car about 60 km (35 miles) west of Quetta, capital of sparsely populated Baluchistan province.

"The bus next to us caught on fire immediately," said pilgrim Hussein Ali, 60. "We tried to save our companions, but were driven back by the intensity of the heat."

Twenty people had been killed and 24 wounded, said an official at Mastung district hospital.

CONCERN OVER EXTREMIST SUNNI GROUPS

International attention has focused on al Qaeda and the Pakistani Taliban.

But Pakistani intelligence officials say extremist Sunni groups, lead by Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (LeJ) are emerging as a major destabilizing force in a campaign designed to topple the government.

Their strategy now, the officials say, is to carry out attacks on Shi'ites to create the kind of sectarian tensions that pushed countries like Iraq to the brink of civil war.

As elections scheduled for next year approach, Pakistanis will be asking what sort of progress their leaders have made in the fight against militancy and a host of other issues, such as poverty, official corruption and chronic power cuts.

Pakistan's Taliban have carried out a series of recent bold attacks, as military officials point to what they say is a power struggle in the group's leadership revolving around whether it should ease attacks on the Pakistani state and join groups fighting U.S.-led forces in Afghanistan.

The Taliban denies a rift exists among its leaders.

In the attack in the northwest, officials said they had found the bodies of 21 men kidnapped from their checkpoints outside the provincial capital of Peshawar on Thursday. The men were executed one by one.

"They were tied up and blindfolded," Naveed Anwar, a senior administration official, said by telephone.

"They were lined up and shot in the head," said Habibullah Arif, another local official, also by telephone.

One man was shot and seriously wounded but survived, the officials said. He was in critical condition and being treated at a local hospital. Another had escaped before the shootings.

Taliban spokesman Ihsanullah Ihsan claimed responsibility for the attacks.

"We killed all the kidnapped men after a council of senior clerics gave a verdict for their execution. We didn't make any demand for their release because we don't spare any prisoners who are caught during fighting," he said.

The powerful military has clawed back territory from the Taliban, but the kidnap and executions underline the insurgents' ability to mount high-profile, deadly attacks in major cities.

This month, suicide bombers attacked Peshawar's airport on December 15 and a bomb killed a senior Pashtun nationalist politician and eight other people at a rally on December 22.

(Additional reporting by Saud Mehsud in DERA ISMAIL KHAN and Gul Yousufzai in QUETTA; Writing by Katharine Houreld; Editing by Michael Georgy and Ron Popeski)


Pakistan militants kill 41 in mass execution, attack on Shi'ites | Reuters
 
So this is their way of starting peace talks... Maybe we should bomb them to say we can also have peace talks. These animals deserve to be cut down.
 
Any source? or you are having an online training?

There have been plenty of proof's given to India and the US on the Indian involvement. This is common in both the countries, Pakistan used Kashmir as a proxy war zone and India is using this great opportunity to arm and fun TTP and Afghan talibans to use as their proxies. In fact, there were a few trucks that were captured a few months ago (one of them slid upside down due to inclined road in rain) and it was fully loaded with weapons originating from India and Russia (which really is the same thing as India uses Russian weapons all over the place). So yea, nothing new here. No one requires any training. Anyone knowing abc of foreign policy and intelligence knows this. But India's lobby is strong and the West turns its head away from it. But this is a dangerous practice and at some point, can put the region into a nuclear conflict which would be devastating for hundreds of millions of poor people!
 
There have been plenty of proof's given to India and the US on the Indian involvement. This is common in both the countries, Pakistan used Kashmir as a proxy war zone and India is using this great opportunity to arm and fun TTP and Afghan talibans to use as their proxies. In fact, there were a few trucks that were captured a few months ago (one of them slid upside down due to inclined road in rain) and it was fully loaded with weapons originating from India and Russia (which really is the same thing as India uses Russian weapons all over the place). So yea, nothing new here. No one requires any training. Anyone knowing abc of foreign policy and intelligence knows this. But India's lobby is strong and the West turns its head away from it. But this is a dangerous practice and at some point, can put the region into a nuclear conflict which would be devastating for hundreds of millions of poor people!
Source please... Does the strong Indian lobby stop you from quoting credible sources too?
 
Let this ruler from hell Zardari go,and things will improve...
 
There have been plenty of proof's given to India and the US on the Indian involvement. This is common in both the countries, Pakistan used Kashmir as a proxy war zone and India is using this great opportunity to arm and fun TTP and Afghan talibans to use as their proxies. In fact, there were a few trucks that were captured a few months ago (one of them slid upside down due to inclined road in rain) and it was fully loaded with weapons originating from India and Russia (which really is the same thing as India uses Russian weapons all over the place). So yea, nothing new here. No one requires any training. Anyone knowing abc of foreign policy and intelligence knows this. But India's lobby is strong and the West turns its head away from it. But this is a dangerous practice and at some point, can put the region into a nuclear conflict which would be devastating for hundreds of millions of poor people!

Half of the world is using russian weapons, so what's the fuss about?

What are you doing with those proofs? Why don't you put them in front of UN?
 
Who gave the proof and to whom?
There have been plenty of proof's given to India and the US on the Indian involvement. This is common in both the countries, Pakistan used Kashmir as a proxy war zone and India is using this great opportunity to arm and fun TTP and Afghan talibans to use as their proxies. In fact, there were a few trucks that were captured a few months ago (one of them slid upside down due to inclined road in rain) and it was fully loaded with weapons originating from India and Russia (which really is the same thing as India uses Russian weapons all over the place). So yea, nothing new here. No one requires any training. Anyone knowing abc of foreign policy and intelligence knows this. But India's lobby is strong and the West turns its head away from it. But this is a dangerous practice and at some point, can put the region into a nuclear conflict which would be devastating for hundreds of millions of poor people!
 
And look at this biased news from reuters..
they make it sound like the deceased were at fault..
not a word against militants...
 
So we want to still have peace with these animals...?

I say bomb them to kingdom come, make examples out of those captured. This menace needs to be tackled very effectively, and a propaganda campaign be launched by the Pakistani government/army to garner public support.

Unfortunately, at this moment, there seems no end to this war.
 
There have been plenty of proof's given to India and the US on the Indian involvement. This is common in both the countries, Pakistan used Kashmir as a proxy war zone and India is using this great opportunity to arm and fun TTP and Afghan talibans to use as their proxies. In fact, there were a few trucks that were captured a few months ago (one of them slid upside down due to inclined road in rain) and it was fully loaded with weapons originating from India and Russia (which really is the same thing as India uses Russian weapons all over the place). So yea, nothing new here. No one requires any training. Anyone knowing abc of foreign policy and intelligence knows this. But India's lobby is strong and the West turns its head away from it. But this is a dangerous practice and at some point, can put the region into a nuclear conflict which would be devastating for hundreds of millions of poor people!

You know... I have been checking out some of the records... basically we have had much more success with militants wanted by the USA rather than militants wanted by us. I will give you a few examples. Khalid Sheikh Muhammed was arrested and captured by Pakistani ISI in 2003. Similarly Ramzi bin al shibh too was captured in Pakistan a year before that.

There is no information indicating these guys had attacked Pakistani citizens ever... but there is information on their role with Al Qaeda and the 9/11 attacks. Drone strikes continue with the tacit permission of Pakistan and target terrorist havens-particularly those militant groups that are intent on attacking US forces. Barely a 1/10th of the strikes have been on TTP militants. My point is basically we helped greatly in finding terrorists attacking US (with the exception of Bin Laden)

Personally I think its really strange that . When people say we Pakistanis have been sold they are right. We have captured some of the most valuable terrorists and now we can't deal with a few Taliban militants... I say forget Haqqani, forget Hekmatyar, forget Nazir, forget Gul bahadur... what the hell about Hakimullah Mahsud and his TTP that killed 40,000 citizens?

Years ago I wrote this article with the data collected by a number of experts:

Who is responsible for financing terrorism in Pakistan?


The United States squarely puts the blame for the failure of the War on Terror and anything related to the Taliban and the Al Qaeda on Pakistan. Unfortunately the bubble is blown by none other than a US congressman. Republican Congressman Dana Rohrabacher claimed "The Taliban was a construct of the CIA and was armed by the CIA” [1]. Let’s explore how far this is true.


In a 1998 interview, Zbigniew Brezinski, Carter's national security adviser admitted that U.S. aid to the Mujahideen factions began before the December 1979 invasion and played a role in inviting the Russians into the region. The entire plan had been to trap the Russians in Afghanistan and use factions such as the Taliban to fight their war for them. According to Brezinski the first ruling for secret aid to the mujahideen came on July 3, 1979 under President Carter himself [2]. Soon after that an American delegation was sent to Pakistan to use it as a puppet to fight their war against the Soviets for them. Pakistan took almost all the losses for the war and the blame for arming the Taliban which could never have been possible without American financing and naturally when the war was over so was the assistance that Pakistan had been promised by the United States. Today Pakistan faces the fallout of what happened back then in the face of a raging insurgency fuelled further by the American presence in Afghanistan that has killed over 35000 Pakistanis with over 40000 Pakistanis grievously wounded [3].


Certain media outlets are telling the World that Pakistan is receiving ‘huge amounts of aid’ and may be supporting the militants to milk that aid. However they aren’t telling the World about the losses Pakistan has suffered. According to Pakistan’s Interior Ministry the damage caused to the Nation in the loss of infrastructure and life was $35 Billion up to July 2009. This was based on a conservative estimate but for lack of other figures we will use this. Since there has been no real let up in the violence from that period the current estimates put the damage to well over $42 Billion in return for a meagre and reluctant American compensation. The exact figure of aid is still unknown and various estimates put it from 4 Billion to 17 Billion. So from being in the War on Terror Pakistan is already at a loss financially without counting the loss in investment and the loss of developing markets for Pakistani exporters. Recent figures from 2011 have even more grim data: Pakistan has suffered losses of $68 Billion since the beginning of this war. [4]


In any case to have caused such much major damage the Tehreek E Taliban would need to be exceptionally well organized, very well armed and extremely well funded. The well funded and well armed bit specially stands surprisingly true since around 86% of the Taliban have never gone to a college or university before and 40% have only studied till Matric (About 9th grade) or even less [5] (This particular piece of statistic is still preliminary and its reliability is slightly in doubt due to the impossibility of finding the educational qualifications of every Taliban militant much less calculating a percentage but looking at the Pakistani scenario they are thought to be possibly somewhere around the truth). Most of the Taliban soldiers are completely illiterate and can barely sign their names on a piece of paper. The riddle of where the money may be coming from in a country where about 70% of the population lives below $2 a day or even how the major commanders seem to have evaded capture every time Pakistan launches an operation still remains unsolved.


To give the Taliban their due however they have indeed developed a source of funding in Pakistan over time. According to analysts the primary known sources of the Taliban’s wealth are donations from its sympathizers, looting of supply convoys, kidnap for ransom and extortion of protection money. Recent reports indicate that Taliban are even involved in bank robberies in major Pakistani cities such as Karachi while it has also been speculated that a great deal of the poppy growth cultivation in Afghanistan directly benefits the Pakistani Taliban. According to the past governor of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa this reserve seems to be increasing by approximately $45 Million annually. This in itself is a large figure. In fact it is actually just about half of what the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa government has been capable of spending on the war on terror. The Khyber Pakhtunkhwa government spent about $89.5 Million on law and order according to the 2009-10 National budget. [6]


According to analysts the Taliban has also accumulated around $250-400 Million of wealth over time. Therefore the word that the Taliban is operating its own government with its own standing finances stands correct. [6]


If any further evidence of this is required, according to a report from Dawn a single Pakistani police constable makes about $80 a month while a Taliban foot soldier in Pakistan makes $170 per month. Even in death the government cannot match up to the Taliban. The heir of a dead policeman receives about $6000 while a suicide bombers family is often given sums of over $20000 [7]. The total number of Taliban troops and terrorists associated with other radical organizations operating under the umbrella of the Tehreek E Taliban Pakistan is 35,000. Using the figures and multiplying the yearly expenditure of the Taliban on salaries for its fighters and compensation for the families of suicide bombers the figures add to $72 Million. This is more than the $45 Million they are earning.


Given that the organization has spent approximately $72 Million of its wealth to pay their bombers and their foot soldiers it still leaves the question of acquisition of arms, weaponry and other expenses for its fighters. If that isn’t enough to prove that the Taliban is a power to be reckoned with even bolder is the announcement of Hakeemullah Mahsud, the Taliban commander that the Taliban can give $20 Million in aid to the government to provide for the flood victims of Pakistan if the American aid for the floods is rejected.


It is certainly clear that the Taliban is earning more than $45 Million annually and that money is not enough to maintain the group’s terrorist activities. It is also clear that to spend $72 Million yearly they would have to have another income source. This definitely means that either someone from outside is supporting the Taliban or the Taliban have even more sources of income that have not come under the scrutiny of Pakistani analysts and officials.


Pakistan becomes a punching bag: Blaming the ISI


The ISI has been the target of the blame for the monster we face today. Many writers and journalists even within Pakistan have begun taking a page from the American media and questioning whether it is certain Pakistani generals and the ISI secretly supplying the terrorists. The question is could this be true today and if so have these same generals or the ISI actually benefitted from the current situation of Pakistan?


Even if the claim that sympathetic generals within the army are supporting the insurgents holds true the question still remains how can the insurgent’s have estimated wealth reserves of around $250-400 Million when it comprises of a group of ragtag and illiterate men, most of whom cannot read a single passage in any language. If the ISI is responsible, as the US and Indian media would have us believe, well then it’s for sure that the agencies entire staff’s salary is being handed over to the Taliban for the group’s sustenance while the agencies own agents and operatives are going home without their salaries. Not to say they are perfectly happy with the murder of their own fellow countrymen by the Taliban. The funds available to the ISI are classified but for an impoverished country like Pakistan some analysts suggest it is $250 Million though it hasn't been confirmed yet.


Nonetheless ‘rogue agents’ from the ISI are the focus of the blame in today's World. However a look at how the ISI has taken losses and suffered might make those thinking along such lines reconsider. A small count of the attacks on the ISI in the country will reveal:


-The attack in Multan on the ISI building kills 8. [8]
-The attack in Peshawar on the ISI kills around 10. [9]
-ISI provincial headquarters in Lahore attacked on 28th May killing 35 and wounding over 300. [10]
-The brutal murder of 2 main ISI agents Khalid Khwaja and Colonel Imam by the Taliban, the two very same people often blamed for supporting the Taliban were killed by the very people the media alleged they were supporting. [11]
-The very recent bombing of the ISI building in Faisalabad. [12]


This proves that ISI has severely been targeted in the war and is losing both men and suffering severe financial losses in the War on Terror. These are some of the bomb attacks that are known but there are more deaths in the Tribal Areas that are going unaccounted for by the media.


According to an unnamed official many agents and operatives have been sent to the North and South Waziristan region to collect intelligence and have wound up dead. The ISI keeps mum about its losses officially which sometimes makes it hard for people to understand that it has also taken losses in this war.


If the losses are compared to other intelligence agencies the results are strikingly different. Well known CIA operations remain intact in Afghanistan and it’s a surprise that the militants would so selectively attack the locations of the countries intelligence agencies and that also with absolute impunity. What is even more surprising is that many ordinary citizens of Pakistan do not know the locations of the ISI, yet the Taliban have attacked their headquarters in almost every major city.


Another whipping boy? The Pakistani Military


The military has suffered even more financial loss than the ISI. No doubt much of the American aid and assistance is militaristic in nature and ends up in the hands of the Pakistan army however on the other hand this same institution is the primary loser in the violence that has gripped the country.


Asad Khalil a self styled analyst who is trying to get a hold on the real figure on army losses both in terms of finances and personnel claims that the army has suffered at least $7 Billion in losses in the war on terror. If so even the army is losing more financially than it is gaining.


Furthermore no matter how much the army is blamed for the mistakes of the past, including Pakistan’s role in the Afghan civil war, it is clear that the Military could not have dreamed of facing the Soviets without US support, $4 Billion of US assistance was handed over to the militants [13]which have matured into the Taliban and Al Qaeda. Would it be sensible for Pakistan to face a superpower of that time such as the Soviets without support and would our leadership have taken the same decision if an American delegation had not come up and demanded help against the Soviets? So perhaps the United States is more to blame for the creation of terrorists.


Foreign Support to the Taliban?


When it comes to certain Right Wing media groups they have continuously stood up and taken every opportunity to say that terrorism is being sponsored by various intelligence agencies of certain countries that are against the ideal of Pakistan. However proof in this case counts. Our analysis reveals that the Taliban is gaining support from someone. Finding out who is the real issue.


The United States has sometimes been blamed for both directly or indirectly supporting terrorism in Pakistan but there has been no real official claim and nothing recorded from an official source. One thing frustrating the Pakistani Military today is its inability to monitor the activities of the CIA which has been blamed for sponsoring terrorism in Pakistan. Unfortunately for USA and fortunately for the Pakistanis the country woke up from its slumber when a man operating in Pakistan as Raymond Davis murdered two Pakistanis on the streets of Lahore in broad daylight. That’s when reports of contacts on his cell phone came up, the gadgets in his car and photographs from his camera containing sensitive locations. There were 33 calls on his cell phone of which 27 were to known or suspected militants. This is confirmed knowledge from the police and is suspicious activity. [14]


According to Shakil Ahmed a journalist, Davis was only one of 1200 Blackwater agents spread out across the country [15]. Some police officials from Lahore further backed up these claims and even went further claiming he had close links to militants and was instrumental in recruiting youth for the terrorists. Furthermore the ISI which according to the agreement with USA, which allows agents on its territory, is to keep tabs on all CIA agents present in the country but does not have Davis in its records.


Many people believe it was unfortunate what happened that day but perhaps it was lucky as it allowed Pakistanis to understand that there is perhaps another angle to look at things from.


India has also been blamed and in this case rare politicians, or media channels supporting claims of Indian support to the terrorists have come up. An article in late 2009 appeared claiming India was supporting terrorism in Pakistan and had funnelled $650 Million to the Taliban insurgents in Pakistan, a fact which was revealed by three captured militants themselves. In October 2009 Rehman Malik claimed India was supporting the Taliban and Pakistan was ready to confront India with evidence. [16]


Another video appeared on the internet briefly where a militant commander admits to have been paid by India to fuel sectarianism in Pakistan on the television screen. Also after the Sri Lankan cricket team attack a report was made public that had been received by the local police in Lahore.

It is also imminent to mention here that India has four consulates in Afghanistan. This is more than the number of consulates a country would want to have in such an impoverished country. What is most alarming for Pakistan is that three of these consulates are right across the border. India has continuously been blamed for fomenting unrest in Baluchistan as well.


Nonetheless though the more patriotic men and women of Pakistan are prepared to believe these reports and are eager to find out just what exactly they are facing in the shape of an extremely powerful, never ending, well-financed insurgency Liberals are unlikely to give much attention to news of foreign aid to the Taliban unless confronted with some extraordinary proof which has so far not come.


Is the Taliban really thriving on foreign support?


The grim reality is that the Taliban is both earning and spending much more than was initially believed. It is difficult to make judgements about who is supporting them. However someone has to find out from where that money is coming. Pakistanis after all these years deserve to know how the Taliban have not just survived but thrived in Pakistan and are able to murder Pakistanis in weekly bombings.


The natural suspicion is going to fall on the ISI Internationally unless and until Pakistan can find proper proof about foreign support to the Taliban, proof that can be presented to the United Nations. Furthermore it is necessary to cut the militants funding more than anything else. Capturing top Militant Commanders can also reveal the terrorists finances and their support structure which is crucial to ensure their defeat. There may be many hidden hands supporting the militants. Not to say these hidden hands have to be foreign intelligence services. They can also be powerful businessmen with militant links. Only the top management of the Taliban can explain where their finances come from. Capturing them is vital.


Citation


[1] Dana Rohrabacher, in a speech.


[2] The CIA's intervention in Afghanistan,
Cited: CRG -- The CIA's Intervention in Afghanistan


[3] War Related Death & Injury in Pakistan, 2011
Cited: http://costsofwar.org/sites/default/files/articles/16/attachments/Crawford Pakistan Casualties.pdf
[4] Pakistan suffers $ 68 Billion loss in the War on Terror. June 2010.

Cited: Pakistan suffers $68 billion financial losses in war on terror


[5] Report on Education and Militancy's Relationship: Illiteracy and its effects on Militancy. In a report. Unavailable online.


[6] Terrorism Research Report: A look into the Taliban's earnings. Content Unavailable online.


[7] Article Published in MSNBC & Dawn.
Cited: Pakistan police losing terrorism fight - World news - South and Central Asia - Pakistan | NBC News

[8] Attack on ISI building in Multan
Cited: BBC News - Pakistan spy agency office attacked in Multan

[9] Attack on ISI building in Peshawar.
Cited: ISI Peshawar HQ truck-bombed | The Nation

[10] Attack on ISI building in Lahore
Cited: Lahore Blast: Police Building, ISI Premises Targeted | Chowrangi

[11] Militants kill Khalid Khwaja: Dawn
Cited: Militants kill Khalid Khwaja: Ex-ISI man found dead in Fata | Latest news, Breaking news, Pakistan News, World news, business, sport and multimedia | DAWN.COM

[12] Attack on ISI building in Faisalabad
Cited: Taliban claim deadly Faisalabad blast, target Pakistani intelligence - The Long War Journal

[13] $ 3-20 Billion passed to the Mujahideen in Afghanistan by the US.
Cited: How the CIA created Osama bin Laden | Green Left Weekly

[14] Davis had ties with Militants. Express Tribune
Cited: ‘CIA agent Davis had ties with local militants’ – The Express Tribune

[15] Davis was one of 1200 Blackwater Agents and Operatives in Pakistan
Cited: Raymond Davis & terrorism in Pakistan | PK ARTICLES HUB

[16] Article initially appeared in The News which deletes archives.
Cited: Indian RAW funded Swat terrorists:$650 million to destabilize Pakistan | Pakalert Press

The guy (military guy) said a very interesting thing. (he pointed me out to Aafia.) Says do you know where she disappeared from? Pakistan... not Afghanistan. The last time she was seen was on a bus. She can disappear of a bus magically with some armed thugs but we can't stop the finances of Tehreek e Taliban militants? What makes you think we can't send a few agents... track hakimullah, launch an airstrike and not finish him.

Something very weird is going on in this country... for what purposes we are protecting people who attack Pakistanis-forget Americans or Indians... I cannot understand. Malik Ishaq is also a case to note.
 
Also, been going through a list of so-called terrorists the US told us Pakistanis to trace... lot of them innocent. Now the Pakistani government and security can spend time chasing false leads but they can't arrest high profile terrorists giving speeches against Shias in large cities like Karachi and Lahore?

ASWJ is a major terrorist organization. One little attack on it and everything closed down here in Karachi. Who was closing down those shops, who was firing in the streets. Why weren't any of them arrested? Malik Ishaq released constantly, Hakimullah Mahsud skedaddling about across the border, his men responsible for thousands of killings.

People are going to ask questions when we can't get these guys but basically. My point is there is something called fighting a war in your own interests and being a stooge for another nation. We have been ignoring our interests for the past 60 years. We do not care when our civilians, our citizens are callously murdered or framed on false charges... locally or in a foreign nation. At home we do not protect them.

This nation needs a nationalist government to set things straight. Right now I can only see Imran Khan having a proper anti-terror policy. Negotiations are a very horrible thing with people who kill 40,000 citizens... but what else can you do when there is either a lack of will or inability to fight these guys? I hope his solution works.
 
There have been plenty of proof's given to India and the US on the Indian involvement. This is common in both the countries, Pakistan used Kashmir as a proxy war zone and India is using this great opportunity to arm and fun TTP and Afghan talibans to use as their proxies. In fact, there were a few trucks that were captured a few months ago (one of them slid upside down due to inclined road in rain) and it was fully loaded with weapons originating from India and Russia (which really is the same thing as India uses Russian weapons all over the place). So yea, nothing new here. No one requires any training. Anyone knowing abc of foreign policy and intelligence knows this. But India's lobby is strong and the West turns its head away from it. But this is a dangerous practice and at some point, can put the region into a nuclear conflict which would be devastating for hundreds of millions of poor people!

where is the source man?:blah::blah::blah:
 
I am sad to hear of this atrocity against Pakistani Muslim citizens of the Shia school of thought.

I really don't know what Pakistan can do to tackle these barbaric extremists.

Short-term some sort of military operation (I'll leave it for Pakistanis to decide). In the long-term thorough campaign of progressive education, economic upliftment of poor rural areas etc.
 
^^ We wish to start a flight to Teharan to help Shia Muslims but Iran regime is not interested to provide air travel opportunity to Shia Muslims of Pakistan.
 

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