Pakistan's Airborne Early Warning and Control Aircrafts

[Quwa]

An older article by tphuang:

The other news from kanwa is on J-10/Y-8 AEW. It looks like PAF looks at these two as long term investment. At current time, it's focused on JF-17 and Erieye. Although funding could reduce the number of Erieye to even less than 7. For Y-8 AEW, PAF hopes to eventually use lessons here to develop it's own AEW platform

China Air and Naval Power: Search results for Pakistan AEW

 

[Chanakyaa]

Can saab and the Chinese AWACS Interlinked together to share data if both are in the air together.. are they compatible..?

 

[MZUBAIR]

 

[Chanakyaa]

Superb Pic.
Looks very much like the IL78 Platform.

 

[SSGPA1]

Can saab and the Chinese AWACS Interlinked together to share data if both are in the air together.. are they compatible..?

I think they would because Chinese platform is based on Israeli tech.

 

[unicorn148]

I think they would because Chinese platform is based on Israeli tech.

the chinese dont match the israil because us has not allowed it to sell their tech to china and one more prob is that china doesnt have enough IL76 planes to integrate its awacs and china has not placed any offers for new IL76
kj 200 is old awacs of china which pakistan is planning to buy which is inferior to kj2000

 

[ice_man]

@hj786

when is the expected time of delivery for the ZDK03 AEW&C....?

and what happened about our interest in HAWKEYE 2D mounted on a P3 orion?

 

[abbasniazi]

By Craig Hoyle

Pakistan's first of five Saab 2000-based airborne early warning and control aircraft has entered final system testing in Sweden, with the work having already demonstrated the capabilities of its integrated self-protection equipment.

Islamabad became the launch - and so far only - military customer for a Saab 2000 derivative when it signed a deal for the Saab Microwave Systems Erieye radar-equipped type in June 2006. Its first example made its flight debut from Saab's Linköping site in mid-2008.
Saab in early October announced the start of final system tests for Pakistan, and says its first aircraft will be flown to the country later this year to expand the work. The latter process will assess the "aircraft, radar, command and control system, communications and live situation picture into the Pakistan air force's command and control ground environment", it says.

Recent tests conducted in Sweden have included the release of flares intended to protect the modified regional turboprop against missile attack.

Saab has previously said that the AEW configuration developed for Pakistan includes five on-board operator stations, with the surveillance aircraft to have an operating ceiling of over 30,000ft (9,150m) and a mission endurance approaching 10h.

The Swedish manufacturer is promoting the AEW version of its Saab 2000 to other potential future customers, and is also offering to supply further variants of the type configured for tasks including maritime patrol and signals intelligence.

 

[hj786]

Saab 2000 Erieye looks great.

@hj786
when is the expected time of delivery for the ZDK03 AEW&C....?
and what happened about our interest in HAWKEYE 2D mounted on a P3 orion?

I haven't found any source on the delivery of KJ-200/ZDK-03, but the contract was signed in December 2008 and the KJ-200 is already in production for the Chinese navy aviation wing. They have a few of them in service according to posters on Chinese forums.
Same with P-3 Hawkeye, the most up to date source I can find is this one: Pakistan Navy To Boost Air Surveillance Capability - Defense News
It quotes a Lockheed Martin official at IDEAS 2008 (which took place in late 2008) as saying that some P-3 Orions have been selected for installation of the Hawkeye AEW suite, but he gave no details on delivery dates.

 

[MZUBAIR]

Alright, we are getting KJ200, not 2000. That's good first step.

No we are getting KJ2000

 

[Arsalan]

No we are getting KJ2000

bro the one in the pic posted here is the Saab Erieye.
however as far as chines option is considered PAF is intrested in KJ200 and not KJ2000. please do some research on to....

for assistance, here is the KJ 200:

while the KJ 2000 is:


regards!

 

[Quwa]

The ZDK03/KJ200 will give the PAF a good basis to develop its own AEW&C-system for future requirements. In fact, Pakistan signed onto this project with the intention and guarantee to participate in ZDK03's development. My guess is that in the long run, the PAF is aiming for a Wedgetail-calibre system - and acquiring support from PLAAF in this regard shouldn't be a problem.

The second element would be a single platform that could be used for multiple mission systems. For example, note the Boeing 737 as a platform for the Wedgetail AEW&C and Poseidon MPA systems. Ideally, I think the Airbus A320 would make a good platform for a future AEW&C, future MPA and even our own J-STARS/SIGSTAR type system. Other potential platforms include the ATR-72 or even some of China's new aircraft in deveopment. In any case, it's clear that PAF does intend to keep importing AEW&C in the future, and the ZDK03 - despite its shortcomings - does provide that important base for PAF to work up from.

 

[Arsalan]

The ZDK03/KJ200 will give the PAF a good basis to develop its own AEW&C-system for future requirements. In fact, Pakistan signed onto this project with the intention and guarantee to participate in ZDK03's development. My guess is that in the long run, the PAF is aiming for a Wedgetail-calibre system - and acquiring support from PLAAF in this regard shouldn't be a problem.

The second element would be a single platform that could be used for multiple mission systems. For example, note the Boeing 737 as a platform for the Wedgetail AEW&C and Poseidon MPA systems. Ideally, I think the Airbus A320 would make a good platform for a future AEW&C, future MPA and even our own J-STARS/SIGSTAR type system. Other potential platforms include the ATR-72 or even some of China's new aircraft in deveopment. In any case, it's clear that PAF does intend to keep importing AEW&C in the future, and the ZDK03 - despite its shortcomings - does provide that important base for PAF to work up from.

exactly. this is the reason why PAF opted for this system even when the westren SAAB Erieye was also available!

regards!

 

[pakpower]

Why paf not going for KJ 2000? instead it is opting for lesser KJ 200 for direct competition with Phalcon paf must accuire some KJ 2000.

 

[hj786]

Why paf not going for KJ 2000? instead it is opting for lesser KJ 200 for direct competition with Phalcon paf must accuire some KJ 2000.

Its easy to sit there typing "phalcon is bigger and more expensive, so it must be much better and PAF need something just as big and expensive". Why don't you try explaining WHY the PAF need KJ-2000? Why aren't Erieye and ZDK-03 good enough?