Please give the sources, because 20+ ton aircraft wouldn't be in the medium category by any classification. The MKI, very much a heavy class, is "only" 18 tons. The pak-fa, also in the heavy air superiority category, is about that same weight.
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Please give the sources, because 20+ ton aircraft wouldn't be in the medium category by any classification. The MKI, very much a heavy class, is "only" 18 tons. The pak-fa, also in the heavy air superiority category, is about that same weight.
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I think we can take help from France for Radar and Engine development.
if we need help developing a AESA radar we should undertake joint development with Israel in that field because Israel will not sell radar jamming equipment to our enemies. But joint development with France on the engine is good, on the other hand we could just go to Russia for joint development in both of these fields but IAF is favoring western technology nowadays.
Please read the 3rd paragraph ...
Indian Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA) Fifth Generation Stealth Fighter Jet Program Cleared ~ ASIAN DEFENCE NEWS
Development Of Advanced MCA to begin by Mid 2011
Aeronautical Development Agency which is currently fast tracking its work on development of Tejas MK-II aircraft ,will also officially start its work on development of countries Next Generation 5th Gen fighter aircraft from mid of 2011 onwards .
Aeronautical Development Agency which is currently developing Tejas MK-2, which will be powered by American GE F414 higher thrust (98kn) will have its first flight by 2014 and will hit production by 2016 , Aeronautical Development Agency has already studied official Air Staff Requirement (ASR) submitted by Indian Air force earlier this year and also has been working unofficially on the design of AMCA and other technology for a while now .
Official of ADA have told idrw.org that ADA plans to have first flight of AMCA by 2018-19 time frame ,since most of the design characters of the aircraft have been already done, but the design is still kept for improvement , which means design has not been frozen yet by ADA .
ADA had earlier has shown a wind tunnel model of AMCA in last years Aero India 2009 , a final or a close AMCA design models may be reveled in next year Aero India 2011 air show claims defence expert Rakesh sharma .
AMCA was earlier called the Medium Combat Aircraft, and basic designs of first sketches where available in late 90′s , MCA or even AMCA is still not officially sanctioned Project by government of India ,it was mostly in house Research and Development by ADA .
Official funding will mark the official development of the aircraft it self , AMCA is projected to have Max take off weight not exceeding 25 tones very similar to Mig-29 , with” Full Stealth” characters as requested by Indian Air Force , which will be supported by locally built active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar which will be likely spin off of AESA radar which is under development for Tejas MK-2 .
It is likely that the Kaveri Mk-2 engine presently being developed by French Company Snecma and DRDO’s Gas Turbine Research Establishment will be used for the AMCA.but ADA will also have GE’s F-414 has back up in case Kaveri Mk-2 does not hit production by 2016 . Kaveri Mk-2 is likely to also power Tejas MK-1 when Ge F-404 engines which currently powers them will come up for engine change .
It seems work has already begun..
Aeronautical Development Agency which is currently fast tracking its work on development of Tejas MK-II aircraft ,will also officially start its work on development of countries Next Generation 5th Gen fighter aircraft from mid of 2011 onwards .
Aeronautical Development Agency which is currently developing Tejas MK-2, which will be powered by American GE F414 higher thrust (98kn) will have its first flight by 2014 and will hit production by 2016 , Aeronautical Development Agency has already studied official Air Staff Requirement (ASR) submitted by Indian Air force earlier this year and also has been working unofficially on the design of AMCA and other technology for a while now .
Official of ADA have told idrw.org that ADA plans to have first flight of AMCA by 2018-19 time frame ,since most of the design characters of the aircraft have been already done, but the design is still kept for improvement , which means design has not been frozen yet by ADA .
ADA had earlier has shown a wind tunnel model of AMCA in last years Aero India 2009 , a final or a close AMCA design models may be reveled in next year Aero India 2011 air show claims defence expert Rakesh sharma .
AMCA was earlier called the Medium Combat Aircraft, and basic designs of first sketches where available in late 90′s , MCA or even AMCA is still not officially sanctioned Project by government of India ,it was mostly in house Research and Development by ADA .
Official funding will mark the official development of the aircraft it self , AMCA is projected to have Max take off weight not exceeding 25 tones very similar to Mig-29 , with” Full Stealth” characters as requested by Indian Air Force , which will be supported by locally built active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar which will be likely spin off of AESA radar which is under development for Tejas MK-2 .
It is likely that the Kaveri Mk-2 engine presently being developed by French Company Snecma and DRDO’s Gas Turbine Research Establishment will be used for the AMCA.but ADA will also have GE’s F-414 has back up in case Kaveri Mk-2 does not hit production by 2016 . Kaveri Mk-2 is likely to also power Tejas MK-1 when Ge F-404 engines which currently powers them will come up for engine change .
It seems work has already begun..
Config Studies Of India's 5th Gen AMCA Commence
Computational fluid dynamics-based aerodynamic configuration studies of India's fifth generation Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft began recently -- this grab is from one of the routines at the National Aerospace Laboratory (NAL) in Bangalore where the studies are being carried out.
Computational fluid dynamics-based aerodynamic configuration studies of India's fifth generation Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft began recently -- this grab is from one of the routines at the National Aerospace Laboratory (NAL) in Bangalore where the studies are being carried out.
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Kaveri engine has 81 Kn thrust max, which I think higher than the current Rafale engine thrust. So if even the Kaveri MK1 mature by that time, it is enough for the first variants.
Haha what is this piece of crap.
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19 years (actually how long it has taken) despite 0 manufacturing base,0 technical knowledge, US sanctions, feeble budget, limited resources, limited manpower and little outside help to produce an advanced 4.5 gen lightweight fighter really is quite an ACHIEVEMENT. 0 crashes to date speaks for itself.
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Lets not fall prey of diversion tactics. Lets talk on topic.
@AMCA: it took 10+ years to develop Dhruva , it will take 5 years to make LCH. It took 20 years to have LCA, It will take 5-8 years to have AMCA.
Does any one have idea what kind of work is going on for AMCA???
I think We should have AMCA Sticky thread. Or it should be merged with PAK-FA discussion. Atleast we will get less diversion in sticky thread.
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The SNEMCA engine IAF is likely to get on their Rafale is likely to be the M88-3 with 90KN of max thrust.
+ I would say (especially with result of MMRCA) France looked like a very attractive potiatallu partner in AMCA. As I don't believe they have any 5th gen fighters in the design phase or many plans for after Rafele. Their techno know-how would be a great addition to the program.
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Good analysis Birbal.
This is the official impression on AMCA but I think final one will have some more changes.
This is the official impression on AMCA but I think final one will have some more changes.
I'm not sure about the credibility of this. Maybe they are talking about maximum take off weight and not empty weight. Because the aircrafts planned by the US or Russia are definitely not going to weigh 30 tonnes, as this link says, at least not when empty. Your next post actually supports my statement, where it says that the AMCA's maximum take off weight would be 25 tonnes. Which would make its empty weight less than 20 tonnes for sure.
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