Talks for Su-35, Mi-35 sales to Pakistan are underway: Russian Deputy FM

[Kompromat]

hahahahah

You know what they say? Don't believe anything until the government denies it.

 

[gau8av]

Hahahahahaha Chalo ab Denies aa rhy hain mtlb waqai kuch pak rha hai...

wet dreams ki khichdi

 

[SpArK]

Expected 3-4 days of drama and chest thumping in forum.

Disappointing.

 

[Indika]

Pakistan can buy whichever equipment from where ever they want, its their prerogative. Age of military arms race is over its the one who has economic muscle who will progress. Unlike US where most of the military equipment were near freebies, russia requires hard cash.

India is more interested in dragging pakistan down the arms race lane which they cannot keep up with. Next we will hear pakistan building nuke submarine,air craft carrier...blah blah. Not only to buy but even to maintain them requires lot of expenditure. Finally are they going to use it? nah they are just show pieces which will be never used unless there is a war.

Ever wondered why india keeps on dragging these defence contracts ?

 

[Yaduveer]

https://twitter.com/x/status/642044092600291328

Le lo Su35

 

[Darth Vader]

PAF has a capability gap which even J-31 can't fulfill.

that depend on who is the aggressor , what are they using ,
Pakistan Cant Afford Any Current Western Jets In Big Numbers , Cant Keep Hopes On Turkish bird as it will take minimum of 10 to 15 years , Going For Su 35 Will Be The Biggest Thing Pak Can do to piss off america but They can try to give some goodies which can stop pak from jumping on the other side ,
Possible is way is Make Thunder a capable Bird with Aesa and other EW , some changes in airframe and its material so it can hold its end against modern capable Birds , Add Few Squads of Viper and Valla It PAF can be a real decent potent force which will give Paf capability to go deep in enemy area on whole new level , j 31 Can be customised to our Need As same is being done With Thunder platform , We wont See thunder block 10 or 15 to The Natural process is Pakistan after Filling the Gap Will look at a new platform in to invest further for future

 

[Kompromat]

Not really, there are some static threats, J-31 can't take care off, especially in Maritime domain.

that depend on who is the aggressor , what are they using ,
Pakistan Cant Afford Any Current Western Jets In Big Numbers , Cant Keep Hopes On Turkish bird as it will take minimum of 10 to 15 years , Going For Su 35 Will Be The Biggest Thing Pak Can do to piss off america but They can try to give some goodies which can stop pak from jumping on the other side ,
Possible is way is Make Thunder a capable Bird with Aesa and other EW , some changes in airframe and its material so it can hold its end against modern capable Birds , Add Few Squads of Viper and Valla It PAF can be a real decent potent force which will give Paf capability to go deep in enemy area on whole new level , j 31 Can be customised to our Need As same is being done With Thunder platform , We wont See thunder block 10 or 15 to The Natural process is Pakistan after Filling the Gap Will look at a new platform in to invest further for future

 

[MastanKhan]

Last 5 years, I am listening this...till date what did you buy from Russia

Hi Great Sachin,

If there is a comparison---then things are easier to understand. Once explained in ' context to ' then people can make an educated analysis.

It has taken you over 8 years to do a deal with a known supplier and still no sign of the product and not even a signature to start the ball rolling----.

And if in 5 years we have already placed 1 order of choppers and maybe coming soon for aircraft----that means that we are ahead of as things done in the area of interest.

 

[war&peace]

Now @Assault Rifle can comfortably sleep tight. Thank You Asad Hashim for helping this bharati.

Or it could be another conspiracy by Asad Hashim to create a fog and lull over-hysteric indians. By the way, this is not so comforting if you take into account the statement by Air Chief (AM) Amanullah that PAF is looking for a true 5th generation aircraft either from east or the west. SU-35 4.5++ generation. The motive behind this that to raise 1-2 squadrons of 5th gen aircrafts while keep advancing JF-17 to 4.5 and 4.5++ levels.

 

[Rasengan]

One important aspect of this announcement is the notion that Pakistan and Russia are becoming closer in defense, energy and infrastructure deals. This outcome was virtually impossible over a decade ago, however things are changing drastically where both our countries can work together for mutual cooperation. Pakistan will not purchase these fighter jets due to its logistical nightmare and costs, however in reference to diplomacy this is an important victory for Pakistan.

 

[Darth Vader]

Not really, there are some static threats, J-31 can't take care off, especially in Maritime domain.

Lets just Wait and see what Becomes of J31 , Just For Maritime Thunder is the Bird for that purpose

 

[MilSpec]

Not a single Pakistani egg will go in the American basket now.

lol... your basket itself is American...

I would take this as a confirmation that PAF is actually negotiating.

I would agree,,, when your Idaare mentions that they are not involved in "some" activity.... it should be construed that they are....

 

[forcetrip]

Expected 3-4 days of drama and chest thumping in forum.

Disappointing.

Beats the 8 year roller coaster ride of some tenders. This statement was given by the Russian FM.

 

[Metanoia]

Egypt Jordan opt for F-16 after ISrael and Greece opt for F-16 after Turkey.... So why cant PAF opt for Su-35 which has different tech then MKI???

Different situations and scenarios. Egypt and Jordan got their F-16s only after they were taught a lesson and defeated in three wars against the Israelis which forced to come to terms with the reality. Everyone knows they won't dare use them to attack and initiate war with Israel. There are no hostilities amongst Israel, Egypt and Jordan and the Egyptian/Jordanian F-16s are for their self defense.

Turkey and Greek are both part of NATO. The Greco-Turkish war took place in 1919-1922...there is absolutely no imminent threat of war or conflict between Turkey and Greece.

All the countries you mentioned have completely different perceived threats as compared to Pakistan.

Finally someone got it. Lol, I even got a few likes.

But yeah you are right, for now deals would be on a smaller scale - testing the waters phase. SU-35 is too soon, but as India moves away from Russia you would see Russia moving towards Pakistan - just how the game is played.

Though you have to just love how many posters who were talking crap about Russian tech are treating the same as World's finest and vice versa

I know...yesterday it was a donkey and today it is a noble steed lol

 

[Metanoia]

I would agree,,, when your Idaare mentions that they are not involved in "some" activity.... it should be construed that they are....

Throwing stones wrapped in velvet eh?