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There are only 3 great powers in this world

This is something that remains to be seen, I objectively stated the data available to me.


I don't think it matters if you have 5000 nukes or 200 nukes. Even if 10-20 get through which I'm understanding by a lot then bye bye to the said target nation. Nukes should never be used as MIRV and MAD would ensure total annihilation and would make a terrible precedent for humanity.


See most of Russian hardware right now is from soviet times, their newer hardware either exists as prototype or in limited quantities. They can't afford to fund their projects in masse. India bought the said old hardware as it was lucrative for us in the past and our neighbour uses similar grade weapons. Western hardware is obviously better and pricier we began buying them when our relationship with west and economy began improving.

When you are a superpower, you need over thousand nukes to maintain your credible deterrence.

Because the enemy will try to fully annihilate you and you need to be reciprocal to the enemy.

China has just realized it cannot maintain its current nuclear arsenal below 1000, especially the event during the US 2020 election when Trump just completely went rogue and wanted to initiate a nuclear war with China in order to avoid losing the election.

Since then, China has ramping up its ICBM close to 1000, which is close to the USA/USSR during the Cold War era.


It is inevitable to surpass the nuclear arsenal of the US when you have more ICBM, and the ICBM is more expensive than the nuclear warhead itself.
 
When you are a superpower, you need over thousand nukes to maintain your credible deterrence.

Because the enemy will try to fully annihilate you and you need to be reciprocal to the enemy.

China has just realized it cannot maintain its current nuclear arsenal below 1000, especially the event during the US 2020 election when Trump just completely went rogue and wanted to initiate a nuclear war with China in order to avoid losing the election.

Since then, China has ramping up its ICBM close to 1000, which is close to the USA/USSR during the Cold War era.


It is inevitable to surpass the nuclear arsenal of the US when you have more ICBM, and the ICBM is more expensive than the nuclear warhead itself.

Us has more than enough nuclear weapons to destroy any enemy that dares launch a nuclear first strike

If it was that easy, you would have done it a long time ago

One Ohio class SSBN can end a civilization
 
1.) USA - Political superpower, Economic superpower, Influential superpower, Landsize superpower (spans the artic with Alaska all the way down to its bases overseas), Military superpower, UN Veto Superpower, Logistical Superpower, Population Superpower, Education Superpower, Oil superpower, Proxy warfare superpower (IE, middle east proxies), immigration superpower (has bright minds from all around the world).

2.) China- Political superpower, Economic superpower, Influential superpower, Landsize superpower, Military superpower (nukes with ICBM is critical, along with the Chinese navy, and an overpowered landarmy), UN Veto Superpower, almost near logistical-Superpower, Population Superpower, Diaspora superpower, Education Superpower. China is not that good with military proxies, but Russia fills that gap for the China-Russia-Iran-North Korea axis. Russia has multiple proxies in the middle east, Africa and elsewhere, and is the only country aside from Iran (and to some degree Turkey in Syria and Pakistan in Afghanistan) to openly combat American and western presence in other countries. China counters the western presence through economical means while Russia conquers them through military means.

3.) Russia - A somewhat political superpower, economic superpower, influential superpower, landsize hyperpower (Borders all the way from Japan to Norway, the size of Russia is as big as Pluto and this allows it to span the artic, to Europe, to the Korean peninsula, also has bases over seas like the US), Military Superpower (only other nation aside from the US to possess massive of nuclear weapons with ICBMs, capable of destroying cities in a blink), UN Veto superpower, somewhat logistical capabilities, population superpower (but not as much as the above two), not-so-much an educations superpower but it has its soviet era history, Proxy warfare hyperpower, Oil superpower.

4.) Then there are countries such as:

A.) Israel who many say has control over the west and, in regard, becomes a superpower as well. If Israel was the size of China, Russia, the US, it would be even stronger than them some say. It has nukes as well, a strong military, good education and much more.
B.) The UK, ICBMS with nukes, nuclear submarine, UN veto power, position on the map, NATO defense, military hardware, political clout in many countries, etc.
C.) France, ICBMS with nukes, nuclear submarines, UN veto power, strong economy in Europe, NATO defense, military hardware, political clout in many countries (although that is recently fading away in Africa).
D.) Iran, Proxy warfare against the west, almost to the level that Russia has, long range missiles with heavy powerful, a strong army, strong geography, oil superpower, etc
E.) Saudi Arabia and the UAE, oil superpowers with strong economies and a lot of money
F.) Germany & Japan, strong economies, a lot of influence in many countries, well respected in many areas, etc.
G.) Turkey, strong military, strong geographical position, a leader who is willing, high population, etc
H.) India, population, nukes, big market, biggest diaspora in the world, largest troll army and internet bots who can influence trends and create lies, confusion, smart minds in and outside India, a space superpower, and much more
I.) Pakistan, population, importance of having nukes to protect itself against India and others and to create a shield against other Islamic countries, big diaspora, strong military, potentially a strong economy, etc
J.) many more great powers like Brazil, South Africa, Egypt, Algeria, Argentina, N.Korea, S.Korea, Singapore, Indonesia, Malaysia, etc
You forgot to mention Nepal, Bhutan and Maldives among the great powers.

On a serious note, the US is still far ahead of everyone in terms of global influence. China has caught up economically, militarily and technologically to a great extent and is the only one that can challenge the US in the next few decades, but in terms of soft power it is still nowhere close to the US. The multilateral world order is still controlled by the US and if the US is able to pull together an alliance to contain China, China, while remaining important, will meet the same fate as the UK and France after WW2, Japan after the early 80s and Russia after the Afghanistan invasion.

Russia is no longer a great power. If you take away her nukes, India, UK, France, Germany, Japan, Brazil, Indonesia, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, South Korea, etc are more influential than Russia is. Russia is just a subsidiary power of China now, unless there is a regime change and Russia tilts west again.
 
When you are a superpower, you need over thousand nukes to maintain your credible deterrence.

Because the enemy will try to fully annihilate you and you need to be reciprocal to the enemy.

China has just realized it cannot maintain its current nuclear arsenal below 1000, especially the event during the US 2020 election when Trump just completely went rogue and wanted to initiate a nuclear war with China in order to avoid losing the election.

Since then, China has ramping up its ICBM close to 1000, which is close to the USA/USSR during the Cold War era.


It is inevitable to surpass the nuclear arsenal of the US when you have more ICBM, and the ICBM is more expensive than the nuclear warhead itself.
What you're describing is known as security dilemma in international relations field of study. One side suspicious of other actions begins increasing their own military strength.
This will lead to a cold war 2.0 again. Remember both USA and USSR had thousands of nukes, the world overcame that era.
 
Us has more than enough nuclear weapons to destroy any enemy that dares launch a nuclear first strike

If it was that easy, you would have done it a long time ago

One Ohio class SSBN can end a civilization

The power of the nuke is being overrated, and one SSBN cannot annihilate a country with large land mass.

Both land based ICBM and sea based SLBM have its own advantage.

Yes, it is a new Cold War right now, and we will both invest trillion in this domain just like the previous Cold War from land based ICBM to sea based SLBM and to the new strategic bomber.
 
The only way to defeat East Asia is to destroy their genetic advantage. It encouraged intermarriage between East Asians and blacks and South Asians. Encourage people from Africa, South Asia, Middle East.... to migrate to East Asia.
This is not true. You are propounding the age old racial theory. It has been debunked long back. A culture, socio economics circumstances and factors make a society not the genetic makeup hogwash.
 
What you're describing is known as security dilemma in international relations field of study. One side suspicious of other actions begins increasing their own military strength.
This will lead to a cold war 2.0 again. Remember both USA and USSR had thousands of nukes, the world overcame that era.

The fate is a loop, and it is coming back again.
 
The only way to defeat East Asia is to destroy their genetic advantage. For example, encouraging marriage between East Asians and blacks and South Asians. Encourage people from Africa, South Asia, Middle East.... to migrate to East Asia.

What happened with the destruction of China during their 'period of humiliation', the destruction of Germany, the nuking of Japan, etc., etc., does not come close to what will happen after WW3. Most of us will be fighting with sticks and stones and riding horses after WW3, many people claim. It is, at the point in time, that the most organized people who see a collectiveness in their outcome can achieve victory. Perhaps this could be Islam, perhaps another force.

This is not true. You are propounding the age old racial theory. It has been debunked long back. A culture, socio economics circumstances and factors make a society not the genetic makeup hogwash.

One of the reasons that the US remains its superpower status is due to immigration. Incredible smart minds and a thriving population keeps it up there.
 
One of the reasons that the US remains its superpower status is due to immigration. Incredible smart minds and a thriving population keeps it up there.
Yes the best minds go and settle there.
But they can be stupid too, here's an interesting read

Qian Xuesen's who is also known as father of China's Ballistics programs was an American working on top secret American projects. He was even involved in Manhattan project with Oppenheimer. During the red scare Americans suspecting him to be a communist put him under house arrest. The guy stayed there for like 5-6yrs before finally going back to China and developing Chinese missile program. This is like serving your enemy blueprints on a platter.​

 
Has nothing to do with the subject at hand but thanks for playing
Don't forget over printing dollars and inflation. If trump gets kicked out, there will be a mini civil war.

Us has more than enough nuclear weapons to destroy any enemy that dares launch a nuclear first strike

If it was that easy, you would have done it a long time ago

One Ohio class SSBN can end a civilization

USSR once boasted that they had enough nukes to destroy the world 3 x over. It is called mutual destruction for a reason. China is a non first use country and US isn't, if you attack us, you will be gone too. You are the aggressor, not us. Remember that.
 
Why should the Russians side with Yankees go against China ? What can Russia gain of and US will definitely turn against Russia after destroying China. So, Yankees think Russians are just dumb fools that will dance to their tunes when asked, lol.
 
Don't forget over printing dollars and inflation. If trump gets kicked out, there will be a mini civil war.



USSR once boasted that they had enough nukes to destroy the world 3 x over. It is called mutual destruction for a reason. China is a non first use country and US isn't, if you attack us, you will be gone too. You are the aggressor, not us. Remember that.

Well of course it's mutually assured destruction. I never said otherwise.

Just remember, if you launch a first strike you won't survive either
 
Well, according to this China hawk/hater, the US is still the number one with China being closely followed as the second, and Russia being a distant third one.

Russia is the weakest among the 3 superpowers, that's why the US needs to bring Russia on its side to against China who is a peer competitor.

The US wants to 100% focus on China, and don't want to get stuck with Ukraine and Middle East. Otherwise, it will be too late for the last window of opportunity, and China will surpass the US within a couple of years.

The Middle East is still vacant of a superpower, that's why it is a playground for everyone.



I listened to the beginning. He said that the United States should not be trapped in Europe or the Middle East but should focus on China. He did not realize or was unwilling to admit that the United States was no longer able to maintain global hegemony.

Regardless of whether the United States loses Europe, the Middle East, or East Asia, its global hegemony will collapse.

I predict that the United States will choose to maintain the transatlantic relationship.
 
I listened to the beginning. He said that the United States should not be trapped in Europe or the Middle East but should focus on China. He did not realize or was unwilling to admit that the United States was no longer able to maintain global hegemony.

Regardless of whether the United States loses Europe, the Middle East, or East Asia, its global hegemony will collapse.

I predict that the United States will choose to maintain the transatlantic relationship.

The current US is too dependent on the hegemony of the USD, and the hegemony of the USD depends on the US might to control Europe/Middle East/East Asia.

He is unwilling to admit that the US is too weak to control these areas like before.

Without the hegemony of the USD, they cannot compete with China in the production capability.
 
Well, according to this China hawk/hater, the US is still the number one with China being closely followed as the second, and Russia being a distant third one.

Russia is the weakest among the 3 superpowers, that's why the US needs to bring Russia on its side to against China who is a peer competitor.

The US wants to 100% focus on China, and don't want to get stuck with Ukraine and Middle East. Otherwise, it will be too late for the last window of opportunity, and China will surpass the US within a couple of years.

The Middle East is still vacant of a superpower, that's why it is a playground for everyone.




so no india?..
 

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