Twitter Suspends Pakistan Defence Forum Without any Warning - Again

[OldenWisdom...قول بزرگ]

Pakistan has an opportunity to be a tech hub for the region... for websites services and social media in not only regional languages but in English as well. Learn from China!

 

[war&peace]

I would say that if we ban both twitter and facebook in Pakistan...there will be only pros and not many cons.

 

[Kompromat]

We know that we are being targeted due to political reasons by twitter India. The issue is that if anyone can fix this issue, it is the Govt of Pakistan. Now how do we get them to cooperate?

you will keep facing such issues till the time twitter keep handling traffic from Pakistan Twitter facility in India; the possible solution could be either to convince twitter to entertain twitter through Dubai office (via mass movement, for this public awareness of online community is require) or somehow twitter find it beneficial to have an office in Pakistan (here government could play a role) which is near to impossible as they already have 4 offices close to Pakistan (3 in India, 1 in Dubai)

 

[T-123456]

I was never fan of Musharaf but I think he got one thing right "Pakistan First".

And that is why i like Musharaf.
You(the forum) put religion before your country,a known fact,this never works and especially not in poor countries.
The only way forward for your country is your national identity,if you dont do that,you'll end up like the many failed states.
You fight for Muslims but when did or do Muslims fight for you?
Just ask people of these many Muslim countries you defend what they think of you when you tell them where you come from.
''I am a Muslim from Pakistan''.
Who cares for you if your identity is one of the 1,6 billion?
If i answer,''im a Turk'' they know exactly who i am.
See the difference?
Make religion personal and national identity a priority if you want to survive as a nation.
Nobody can fvck with you if you do that,no twitter,facebook,India or any others
In short,you know what to do,its all up to you Pakistanis.

 

[BHarwana]

We know that we are being targeted due to political reasons by twitter India. The issue is that if anyone can fix this issue, it is the Govt of Pakistan. Now how do we get them to cooperate?

It is very simple let's ask ministry of information to intervene because Twitter comes under them. If they oppress voices of Pakistan then let's oppress their voice all together.

Bjp india is doing a media clamp down because there are elections coming and this is part of that campaign to stop voices against it.

Here see in this video the police officer admits that Facebook gave info of the chats Pakistani account was making in India that is how they located brahmos spy. They are releasing Pakistani accounts info to India which is against the law and violating Pakistani law.

 

[HRK]

We know that we are being targeted due to political reasons by twitter India. The issue is that if anyone can fix this issue, it is the Govt of Pakistan. Now how do we get them to cooperate?

Is there any way we can engage the twitter head office in US either through an online campaign by Pakistan online traffic and If possible we should try to engage our IT ministry as its not about just this forum but a continues behaviour which was exhibited after Burhan waini shahadat.

 

[war&peace]

We know that we are being targeted due to political reasons by twitter India. The issue is that if anyone can fix this issue, it is the Govt of Pakistan. Now how do we get them to cooperate?

Mate, we should tweet them. I will use my sources to get the message through but a lone voice may not get desired results so we need to rally (using this new citizen portal app or individual twitter accounts) or whatever contacts we have.. It is PTA but I guess it goes beyond their scope since what we are talking about is a policy change. I think, this opportunity should be used as a precursor for a policy change.

 

[BATMAN]

Is there any way we can engage the twitter head office in US either through an online campaign by Pakistan online traffic and If possible we should try to engage our IT ministry as its not about just this forum but a continues behaviour which was exhibited after Burhan waini shahadat.

There must be a misunderstanding… ask Iran to mediate between you and Narendra Modi.

 

[BHarwana]

The voice is getting louder don't worry it will be heard.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1056982721627676672

 

[Indus Pakistan]

And that is why i like Musharaf.
You(the forum) put religion before your country,a known fact,this never works and especially not in poor countries.
The only way forward for your country is your national identity,if you dont do that,you'll end up like the many failed states.
You fight for Muslims but when did or do Muslims fight for you?
Just ask people of these many Muslim countries you defend what they think of you when you tell them where you come from.
''I am a Muslim from Pakistan''.
Who cares for you if your identity is one of the 1,6 billion?
If i answer,''im a Turk'' they know exactly who i am.
See the difference?
Make religion personal and national identity a priority if you want to survive as a nation.
Nobody can fvck with you if you do that,no twitter,facebook,India or any others
In short,you know what to do,its all up to you Pakistanis.

Thanks. Really appreciate this post. Two countries are cool with Pakistan. Turkey and China. I place Turkey first. I don't draw this conclusion from PDF. I have been to Turkey. I have interacted with Turks in UK. I have interacted with Turks on various [western] forums. The relationship with Turkey is multilayered and has depth. The relation with China is vital but truth be told is just business. They really are a alien people to us. But of course that does not remove their importance to Pakistan geostragegic needs.

The problem is most Turks and Chinese [understandbly] often will refrain from giving Pakistani's advice. But a true friend should say it as it is even if the advice is bitter. And I appreciate you did that. The number of times I cringe when Pakistan starting shovelling religion into a discussion with Turks is annoying.

At it's most simplest the reason we are facing the problems and you touched on them are that Pakistani's have become contractors by self appoinment for 1.6 billion mass of humanity. It's akin to me becoming a contractor for humanity. I go out and spend all my money and energy on all the people in my city. But then I have no money left, no energy left to look after my own family. On top of that I get involved in every argumant out there that has nothing to do with me and make enemies everywhere which then blowback on my family. Could anybody do that and avoid suffering that would ensue?

Pakistan is beautiful country with so much potential. If only we could harness that energy for Pakistan itself. I was watching the newsreport of the new Istanbul Airport being opened. I can only dream that one day we will have a airport with 90 million passener capacity.

And here mate is the real Pakistan. Simple. Beautiful. Histiory going back to 5,000 years. Takht-e -Bahi often regarded as the earliest universties dating back to 2000 years ago. Then Bab-e-Khyber which stands next to the route taken by Central Asian invaders like Turkic Moghuls, to Greek Alexander, the Kushans and the huge military forts guarding the strategic routes. Watch it if you have time and let me know what you think. This is what we need to get out. Not bloody jihad factory.

 

[MultaniGuy]

The most powerful global forces today are USA, Europe and China. This is the reality. And Pakistan is a fragile country with a weak economy which could be easily snuffed as we have seen with recent desperate financial situation. In this hostile environment Pakistani's have to navigate very, very cautiously. This means following the path of least resistence. Which means as much as you can fly with the headwind and only go against it when it becomes absolutely vital to core Pakistani interests.

We must keep in mind big business in USA and that includes the media is dominated by Jews. Many of the large US corporations are owned by Jews. So if you spit in their face over Israel in some suicidal effort to clam up with Palestinians, croak on about Uighur Muslims, bitch about Europeans the net result is your going to find yourself right at the bottom and isolated. This is exactly what Pakistan has done as a nation. We just made up enemies when there was never any need for it.

The Indian's have done opposite of this. They have cultivated relations with evderybody. This means in any India/Pak tiff we always get the shafting as evreybody bends backwards to accomodate India.Pakistan has made itself a public relations manager's nightmare.

Ps. I have even on PDF seen members provoking the Chinese over Uighurs. It's like do we want to fcuk up one of the few countries that are pro Pakistan over the Uighurs. And the Chinese are very reactive to this Uighur issue. Or start giving Turks lessons on Islam when we know majority of them are very secular. That again annoys them.

I also said to hell with the Uighur issue. That is not our problem.

And that is why i like Musharaf.
You(the forum) put religion before your country,a known fact,this never works and especially not in poor countries.
The only way forward for your country is your national identity,if you dont do that,you'll end up like the many failed states.
You fight for Muslims but when did or do Muslims fight for you?
Just ask people of these many Muslim countries you defend what they think of you when you tell them where you come from.
''I am a Muslim from Pakistan''.
Who cares for you if your identity is one of the 1,6 billion?
If i answer,''im a Turk'' they know exactly who i am.
See the difference?
Make religion personal and national identity a priority if you want to survive as a nation.
Nobody can fvck with you if you do that,no twitter,facebook,India or any others
In short,you know what to do,its all up to you Pakistanis.

Most Pakistanis do not care about other countries, or stupid international causes. Pakistanis just care about Kashmir.

 

[Peshwa]

Last year in November, Twitter suspended our verified twitter handle without any warning or moderation. Our repeated appeals were not entertained.

Today, twitter has suspended us again without any warning or moderation. The message we received was: Violating our rules against evading permanent suspension. The permanent suspension was never explained, to begin with.

We believe that this is the work of twitter India at the behest of the Modi Govt which has been handing out lists of Pakistani twitter accounts for suspension and forcing twitter to comply. We believe that our original suspension and this one is pure and utterly motivated by politics because Pakistani twitter users are under the oversight of twitter India and they can shut down our accounts whenever they want without us getting a fair chance of appeal or reversal.

Many other Pakistani twitter users who criticize India have ended up on Indian Govt's lists which were given to twitter. They were given legal notices that 'your tweets are in violation of Indian Law' - whatever that means.

We believe in the fairness of debate and not at any point, we've intentionally violated twitter's stated rules and if it ever happened by mistake, it was corrected and self-moderated.

We strongly protest this decision and hope our forum members will raise this issue on twitter with @ jack and others who are at the helm of affairs by using the hashtag #RestoreDefencedotpk.

We also hope that the Govt of Pakistan will look into this issue and officially raises this with twitter. The twitter must be asked to prohibit twitter India from exercising all powers over Pakistani twitter users and a twitter office must be established in India OR the Pakistani users should be under the oversight by twitter's head office in the United States. Their Indian staff is abusing their powers to shut down Pakistani accounts to settle scores and to comply with the Modi govt.

If you have any ideas on how to go about this, please let us know.

Thanks

Isn’t the Defence.pk forum a US based site?
If so, why exactly is the twitter for PDF under the purview of the Indian twitter offices? Shouldn’t it be under the US Twitter regulatory authorities?

 

[BHarwana]

Isn’t the Defence.pk forum a US based site?
If so, why exactly is the twitter for PDF under the purview of the Indian twitter offices? Shouldn’t it be under the US Twitter regulatory authorities?

Dot pk is a Pakistan based domain not USA based.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Thanks. Really appreciate this post. Two countries are cool with Pakistan. Turkey and China. I place Turkey first. I don't draw this conclusion from PDF. I have been to Turkey. I have interacted with Turks in UK. I have interacted with Turks on various [western] forums. The relationship with Turkey is multilayered and has depth. The relation with China is vital but truth be told is just business. They really are a alien people to us. But of course that does not remove their importance to Pakistan geostragegic needs.

The problem is most Turks and Chinese [understandbly] often will refrain from giving Pakistani's advice. But a true friend should say it as it is even if the advice is bitter. And I appreciate you did that. The number of times I cringe when Pakistan starting shovelling religion into a discussion with Turks is annoying.

At it's most simplest the reason we are facing the problems and you touched on them are that Pakistani's have become contractors by self appoinment for 1.6 billion mass of humanity. It's akin to me becoming a contractor for humanity. I go out and spend all my money and energy on all the people in my city. But then I have no money left, no energy left to look after my own family. On top of that I get involved in every argumant out there that has nothing to do with me and make enemies everywhere which then blowback on my family. Could anybody do that and avoid suffering that would ensue?

Pakistan is beautiful country with so much potential. If only we could harness that energy for Pakistan itself. I was watching the newsreport of the new Istanbul Airport being opened. I can only dream that one day we will have a airport with 90 million passener capacity.

And here mate is the real Pakistan. Simple. Beautiful. Histiory going back to 5,000 years. Takht-e -Bahi often regarded as the earliest universties dating back to 2000 years ago. Then Bab-e-Khyber which stands next to the route taken by Central Asian invaders like Turkic Moghuls, to Greek Alexander, the Kushans and the huge military forts guarding the strategic routes. Watch it if you have time and let me know what you think. This is what we need to get out. Not bloody jihad factory.

Pakistanis do not care about other countries or international causes. Where are you getting your information. Who from Pakistan wants to go fight wars? Lol.

Pakistanis just care about Kashmir.
Pakistanis couldn't give a damn for Palestine or Israel.

 

[Rollno21]

Dot pk is a Pakistan based domain not USA based.

Servers are hosted in USA