Pakistan must stop atrocities in Balochistan:Asma Jehangir

[nalandapride]

doesnt matter, javed miandad doesnt speak about his political ideologies, he stays away from politics
she adores him thats why she wore orange cloths of bal thakerey

Must be co-incidence, is Orange colored banned among Muslims.

 

[Icarus]

What is the Frontier Corps if they are not part of Pakistan's military?

Para-Military, like your BSF.

Pakistan atrocities in Balochistan and Baloch freedom fighting is directly proportional. Pakistan miserly failed to control insurgencies in those regions and there no sign of improvement in near future.

In that situation UN can intervene into Baloch issue and liberate them into separate nation b4 that they suppose to bring referendum.

Pakistan should understand the reality that they can't achieve anything at Baluchistan.

India should set the precedent by exiting the Seven Sister States, Tamil Nadu, Bengal, Jharkhand, Arrunachul Pradesh and Punjab. Since these areas have also been plagued by varying degrees insurgencies since India's independence. India can't achieve anything in these areas.

Well Balochistan and Balochis have been ruined by Pakistan army and the ISI....poor Balochi men and women are kidnapped,killed,raped by them....Balochistan should be an independent nation.....only then it will prosper

Proof? Your argument is flawed since the Army is limited to the cantonment in Quetta. Kindly get your facts right, false flagger.

 

[Machete]

Para-Military, like your BSF.




India should set the precedent by exiting the Seven Sister States, Tamil Nadu, Bengal, Jharkhand, Arrunachul Pradesh and Punjab. Since these areas have also been plagued by varying degrees insurgencies since India's independence. India can't achieve anything in these areas.

Tamilnadu?? haaahaa wat kind of insurgencies you noticed there? TN literacy is more than 80% and it acting as potential growth engine of India. AP , Punjab ,seven sister states?? except Manipur everybody dng gud. In Bengal and Jarkhand still now India not used its army in those regions.

Pakistan army strength 550000 more than half numbers standing near Indian borders watever happens in rest of Pakistan they won't move an Inch for sure. Remaining forces guarding Afghan(huge headache), Iran and China borders. Pakistan involving in WOT and utilizing huge manpower . In that situation its difficult to control Baluchistan and your economic growth worsen the situation further. Up to my knowledge Sindh and Punjab regions are peaceful and its plays pivotal role in your country growth ,recently serial bomb blast occurred in Sindh province now it need to check further spread.Novel problems arising on monthly basis still Pakistan not having any plan at the moment to control problems/insurgencies those things justifies my previous post.

 

[saiyan0321]

Tamilnadu?? haaahaa wat kind of insurgencies you noticed there? TN literacy is more than 80% and it acting as potential growth engine of India. AP , Punjab ,seven sister states?? except Manipur everybody dng gud. In Bengal and Jarkhand still now India not used its army in those regions.

Pakistan army strength 550000 more than half numbers standing near Indian borders watever happens in rest of Pakistan they won't move an Inch for sure. Remaining forces guarding Afghan(huge headache), Iran and China borders. Pakistan involving in WOT and utilizing huge manpower . In that situation its difficult to control Baluchistan and your economic growth worsen the situation further. Up to my knowledge Sindh and Punjab regions are peaceful and its plays pivotal role in your country growth ,recently serial bomb blast occurred in Sindh province now it need to check further spread.Novel problems arising on monthly basis still Pakistan not having any plan at the moment to control problems/insurgencies those things justifies my previous post.

let me refresh what you said

Pakistan atrocities in Balochistan and Baloch freedom fighting is directly proportional. Pakistan miserly failed to control insurgencies in those regions and there no sign of improvement in near future.

In that situation UN can intervene into Baloch issue and liberate them into separate nation b4 that they suppose to bring referendum.

Pakistan should understand the reality that they can't achieve anything at Baluchistan.

is this right? thats what you said? you know i have talked about this a thousand times on this forum and dont want to do this to every new indian but what the hell just last time..... in 1971 when bangladesh was freed insurgency picked up massive strength in balochistan and they were called BLA bhutto put a crack down and stopped it small scale remained but in 2008 the insurgency picked up massive strength they had the public support too.. that was their peak time since the people were helping the sardars who were doing this. army operations happened and for few years many insurgent members were killed. since the BLA had many local people many people shouted that army is killing people... at around 2010 the BLA started dictatorship and started killing the people in balochistan anyone who was against them was either killed or were put in private jails. this turned the people,s opinion away from them. and after many years the people of balochistan supported the army and helped them crush the insurgency. the army from its own pockets started developments over there too like building schools colleges roads hospitals and induction in armed forces on relaxed condidtions like required matric numbers were made 40% from 60% and other privileges that other provinces didnt enjoy.... the worst fear of BLA and the sardars is education the more people are educated the more they think on their own and thus wont listen to them... the BLA tried to destroy schools and hospitals too killing doctors... now look one is building schools and hospitals and helping the baloch people the other their own apparently freedom fighters are not only killing them but destroying those places.. this mistake turned the people against BLA.. now the BLA is a near extinct insurgency only bcz the people helped the army. with this and this alone the BLA has been the weakest since its creation. the sardars have noway and found great comfort when us congress picked the balochistan issue to blackmail pakistan on nato supply and as you can see it has all died down. the sardars want this bcz they want their complete control on the people. this insurgency now should be squashed to pieces its the only real going insugency in pakistan kashmir and gilgit baltistan has none, sindhudesh was finished in 1971 and so was pukhtoonistan which now lives in the wet dreams of afghans...... so you see this is all their is too it

 

[Jackdaws]

Wherever the army is sent in; invariably there are atrocities. This is the case in Kashmir where Indian troops are; Iraq and Afghanistan where American troops are and probably in Balochistan where Pakistani troops are. There is a reason why troops are kept in the barracks. By not admitting to these atrocities we are not being patriotic as some people think, we are being anti-national because the people suffering from these atrocities are our countrymen and women. Today it is them, tomorrow it could be us.

 

[Bhairava]

India should set the precedent by exiting the Seven Sister States, Tamil Nadu, Bengal, Jharkhand, Arrunachul Pradesh and Punjab. Since these areas have also been plagued by varying degrees insurgencies since India's independence. India can't achieve anything in these areas..

Dude what are you smoking ? None of the states you mentioned have separatist movement except perhaps Manipur where some smuggling gangs posing as separatists exist.

FFS, you are a TT..do some research before posting arbitarily like this.

 

[AbhijitSingh]

India should set the precedent by exiting the Seven Sister States, Tamil Nadu, Bengal, Jharkhand, Arrunachul Pradesh and Punjab. Since these areas have also been plagued by varying degrees insurgencies since India's independence. India can't achieve anything in these areas.

Think Tanks Trolling

 

[53fd]

FC is NOT the Army. Someone who does not understand this basic fact is not worth talking to.

The Army has only been deployed currently in certain areas of FATA, but no where else in Pakistan. If Army troops had been deployed in Balochistan like they have in FATA, there would have fewer losses than what the FC are encountering everyday. But no Army troops have been deployed in Balochistan because it is not a war-zone, & secondly the Baloch people do not want them there; unlike FATA where local tribal Lashkars have fought side-by-side with the Army against the militants.

 

[Areesh]

Great she didn't those "hair-raising" atrocities. May be she didn't know herself. Since she was in Bharat so just to add to the general rhetoric she mentioned the some random "atrocities" in Baluchistan.

 

[Icarus]

Tamilnadu?? haaahaa wat kind of insurgencies you noticed there? TN literacy is more than 80% and it acting as potential growth engine of India. AP , Punjab ,seven sister states?? except Manipur everybody dng gud. In Bengal and Jarkhand still now India not used its army in those regions.

1) Tamil Nadu was the centre of the Tamil Liberation Movt of the LTTE India. They assassinated Rajiv Gandhi after which there was a heavy crackdown against them. Remember?
2) Pakistan has not used the military in Balochistan, so your argument is flawed or your defence. Decide which one.

Pakistan army strength 550000 more than half numbers standing near Indian borders watever happens in rest of Pakistan they won't move an Inch for sure. Remaining forces guarding Afghan(huge headache), Iran and China borders. Pakistan involving in WOT and utilizing huge manpower . In that situation its difficult to control Baluchistan and your economic growth worsen the situation further. Up to my knowledge Sindh and Punjab regions are peaceful and its plays pivotal role in your country growth ,recently serial bomb blast occurred in Sindh province now it need to check further spread.Novel problems arising on monthly basis still Pakistan not having any plan at the moment to control problems/insurgencies those things justifies my previous post.

Get your facts right, much of the army has been pulled from FATA only a small strength is mantained in Swat and SWA. All other agencies are under control of the FC which is NOT the Army. The rest of the argument is left void after this lapse of research.

Wherever the army is sent in; invariably there are atrocities. This is the case in Kashmir where Indian troops are; Iraq and Afghanistan where American troops are and probably in Balochistan where Pakistani troops are. There is a reason why troops are kept in the barracks. By not admitting to these atrocities we are not being patriotic as some people think, we are being anti-national because the people suffering from these atrocities are our countrymen and women. Today it is them, tomorrow it could be us.

Very well said except for the fact that there is no Army in Balochistan! They used to occupy two Garrisons in the entire province and now even Sui garrison has been converted into an educational complex!

 

[Kompromat]

Dude what are you smoking ? None of the states you mentioned have separatist movement except perhaps Manipur where some smuggling gangs posing as separatists exist.

FFS, you are a TT..do some research before posting arbitarily like this.

Facts beg to differ.

 

[Icarus]

Dude what are you smoking ? None of the states you mentioned have separatist movement except perhaps Manipur where some smuggling gangs posing as separatists exist.

FFS, you are a TT..do some research before posting arbitarily like this.

You my friend need some research, I did not necessarily say active insurgencies:
Seven Sister States: ULFA, ANLA, NSCN and a dozen others!
Tamil Nadu: LTTE India(Defunct)
Bengal: Maoists
Jharkhand: Stronghold of the Naxals
Arrunachul Pardesh: Naga Insurgents Spillover Factions
Punjab: Khalistan Movt(Underground)

It appears I've been smoking the justifiable stuff!
Here's a bit of a read for you none the less:
Insurgency Movements in India | Opinion Maker

 

[AbhijitSingh]

You my friend need some research, I did not necessarily say active insurgencies:
Seven Sister States: ULFA, ANLA, NSCN and a dozen others!
Tamil Nadu: LTTE India(Defunct)
Bengal: Maoists
Jharkhand: Stronghold of the Naxals
Arrunachul Pardesh: Naga Insurgents Spillover Factions
Punjab: Khalistan Movt(Underground)

It appears I've been smoking the justifiable stuff!
Here's a bit of a read for you none the less:
Insurgency Movements in India | Opinion Maker

And what is the relationship of this to the thread title?

By the way, nicely done.. A think tank and an opinionater get together to use their free pass to troll off topic posts and derail the topic that is embarrassing for Pakistanis

All the while, MODS turn a blind eye

 

[Icarus]

Think Tanks Trolling

Trolling justified. Kindly refute with opposing argument citing facts, not one liners.

And what is the relationship of this to the thread title?

My Indian Friend saying that these Insurgencies don't exist.

And what is the relationship of this to the thread title?

By the way, nicely done.. A think tank and an opinionater get together to use their free pass to troll off topic posts and derail the topic that is embarrassing for Pakistanis

All the while, MODS turn a blind eye

That's a good way to disengage from an argument you can't sustain, use the "Poor Me" card.

 

[fd24]

And what is the relationship of this to the thread title?

By the way, nicely done.. A think tank and an opinionater get together to use their free pass to troll off topic posts and derail the topic that is embarrassing for Pakistanis

All the while, MODS turn a blind eye

Why are you jumping from thread to thread attempting to moderate the site. You are not a mod - post and be merry. He was refuting an accusation of posting something without doing research. He shuts the likes of you up and then you accuse him to be off topic - post relevant to the thread or shush..