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At 7.6%, India is the fastest-growing economy or the best data fudger

Kangress dogs have very large appetite. They would loot even their own mothers if they had the chance. I'm surprised that more money was not laundered through Mauritius.

Yeah but here in India, we had the option to throw them out. I feel pity for the Chinese slaves whose survival depends on the fact on how good *** lickers they are. I feel sorry for you brother...

I am for good people and facts.
Modi fools Indians for votes.

Have a look from where modi's votes come from. Most of the votes bjp gets are from middle class educated people. The others either rely on the caste system or appeasement of the Muslims. Now tell ke, who are easier to be fooled?

That will require growth to average 15% for the next 12 years. This should be easy under Modi-ji's brilliant leadership. With Vedic statistics, everything is possible.

15% nominal growth. That's 8.5% real growth+ 5% inflation and also appreciation in the value of rupee due to higher inflows of FDI.

But then you won't understand the concepts of nominal or real GDP growth rates.
 
Yeah but here in India, we had the option to throw them out. I feel pity for the Chinese slaves whose survival depends on the fact on how good *** lickers they are. I feel sorry for you brother...



Have a look from where modi's votes come from. Most of the votes bjp gets are from middle class educated people. The others either rely on the caste system or appeasement of the Muslims. Now tell ke, who are easier to be fooled?



15% nominal growth. That's 8.5% real growth+ 5% inflation and also appreciation in the value of rupee due to higher inflows of FDI.

But then you won't understand the concepts of nominal or real GDP growth rates.


No, 15% real growth is required. We can't predict or assume the future value of rupee nor can we predict or assume future inflation levels. So we have to set a baseline by using, say rupee's value in 2015, and then we project from there. For the Indian GDP to increase by 550% in real terms in 12 years (in 2015 rupees), it would require an average real growth rate of 15%.

No country has achieved this level of sustained growth, not America, not China, ever.

If any country can do it, it would be Modji's India!
 
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That will require growth to average 15% for the next 12 years. This should be easy under Modi-ji's brilliant leadership. With Vedic statistics, everything is possible.

No, 15% growth is not required, even 10% is not required. You just don't understand economics, nor those fellas who thanked your post.

No, 15% real growth is required. We can't predict or assume the future value of rupee nor can we predict or assume future inflation levels. So we have to set a baseline by using, say rupee's value in 2015, and then we project from there. For the Indian GDP to increase by 550% in real terms in 12 years (in 2015 rupees), it would require an average real growth rate of 15%.

No country has achieved this level of sustained growth, not America, not China, ever.

If any country can do it, it would be Modji's India!

Again, you don't understand economics, if when we grow at 8%-9% steadily, inflation will also happen, and rupee will get stronger also. If growth happens, these two also happens.

And there is a difference between real growth and nominal growth.
 
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And there is a difference between real growth and nominal growth.

India is incapable of growing more than 7% a year average due to it's multi-ethnic makeup.

Around 10 trillion US dollars GDP is possible by 2030.
 
India is incapable of growing more than 7% a year average due to it's multi-ethnic makeup.

Around 10 trillion US dollars GDP is possible by 2030.

We have already grown at a higher rate, and also currently doing so.
 
We have already grown at a higher rate, and also currently doing so.


I am talking about sustained average over a period of a decade. India grew 7% average last decade and will do no better this decade. India grew 7.4% in 2015.

In contrast unitary BD should be able to accelerate to around the 8-9% GDP growth mark by early next decade when the major infrastructure projects currently in progress are completed. 10% is possible but I dont think BD yet has the range of industries to do this yet.
 
I am talking about sustained average over a period of a decade. India grew 7% average last decade and will do no better this decade. India grew 7.4% in 2015.

In contrast unitary BD should be able to accelerate to around the 8-9% GDP growth mark by early next decade when the major infrastructure projects currently in progress are completed. 10% is possible but I dont think BD yet has the range of industries to do this yet.

India is poised for an even faster growth. Last decade was a lost decade for us.

And please.....Bangladesh!! We are not competing with Bangladesh!! :)
 
India is poised for an even faster growth. Last decade was a lost decade for us.

And please.....Bangladesh!! We are not competing with Bangladesh!! :)

In last fiscal, India managed 7.4% while BD did 7.1%.

Remember India has much better infrastructure than BD, but this should be eliminated by the early 2020s when BD completes projects like 4-laning all major highways,current metro and railway projects, Padma Bridge, deep sea port, Roopur nuclear plant and Matarbari coal and port projects.

BD is losing 2% growth due to it's bad infrastructure now.

India cannot make fast decisions like the all powerful centralised BD state. Look forward to the day soon when BD overtakes India in GDP/capita.:)
 
I am hearing this for last 30 years and my parents have been hearing about glory of India for last 50 years..it wont happen..take my word..India will remain a poor outback of low cost manufacturing..
 
In last fiscal, India managed 7.4% while BD did 7.1%.

Remember India has much better infrastructure than BD, but this should be eliminated by the early 2020s when BD completes projects like 4-laning all major highways,current metro and railway projects, Padma Bridge, deep sea port, Roopur nuclear plant and Matarbari coal and port projects.

BD is losing 2% growth due to it's bad infrastructure now.

India cannot make fast decisions like the all powerful centralised BD state. Look forward to the day soon when BD overtakes India in GDP/capita.:)

Bangladesh is not our concern. However, we are now making dozens of metro railways in out tier 2 and tier 3 cities, while Bangladesh is yet to start digging for its very first metro project. 4- lane, 8-lane highways are new to Bangladesh, you have one or two such roads, we have plenty of them and we are making more than 20 kilometers of such highways everyday, and the rate will only increase to finish 1000 kms of highways every year. Bridges, coal plants, railways, etc. don't excite us anymore, we are going into HSR. We are a electricity surplus country now and focusing on clean energies. And India is the pioneer in Thorium based fast-breeder nuclear power technology, and we have plenty of that material.

As I said previously, we are not competing with Bangladesh. So please...:)
 
India is incapable of growing more than 7% a year average due to it's multi-ethnic makeup.

Around 10 trillion US dollars GDP is possible by 2030.


You must be some special kind of delusional to think that 7%+ growth rate in today's environment is anything short of miraculous.If global situation was even marginally optimistic, this 7% growth would have became 10%+ without India doing anything.

So much for labours of multi-ethnic make-up.

And BTW, even with 7% sustained real growth ( 10% nominal. I am taking very low inflation into account and ignoring any possibility of currency appreciation), Indian economy would still be around $10 Trillion in 2030; In reality much much higher.
 
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Bangladesh is not our concern. However, we are now making dozens of metro railways in out tier 2 and tier 3 cities, while Bangladesh is yet to start digging for its very first metro project. 4- lane, 8-lane highways are new to Bangladesh, you have one or two such roads, we have plenty of them and we are making more than 20 kilometers of such highways everyday, and the rate will only increase to finish 1000 kms of highways every year. Bridges, coal plants, railways, etc. don't excite us anymore, we are going into HSR. We are a electricity surplus country now and focusing on clean energies. And India is the pioneer in Thorium based fast-breeder nuclear power technology, and we have plenty of that material.

As I said previously, we are not competing with Bangladesh. So please...:)

The point is that BD has a more severe infrastructure deficity than India and so can increase it's current 7%
GDP growth to 8-9% mark when this is remedied in the early 2020s.

What can India do to increase growth since as you say Indian infrastructure is much more impressive than BD currently?
 
In the late 1980s, Presidency College, Calcutta, flaunted one of the finest economics
departments in the world. We were 'advised' to read a book, which wasn't part of the
syllabus.

Our professors, each a titan in their field, kept their stature well hidden, as befitted their
bhadralok status.

We were assumed intellectual goats, foraging on whatever we found nearby.
One of the least appetising morsels thrown our way was a book by Richard and Giovanna
Stone, with the bestselling title of National Income and Expenditure.

Calculated Numbers
Stone and Stone hung around our necks for a few months, while we hoped it wouldn't drag
us into the crocodile marshes of the Sundarbans .

Then, we were rid of it. Several years earlier, Richard Stone had won the Nobel Prize for
economics for figuring out the way to calculate a nation's wealth, poverty and growth.

So, this sorry tale would have ended — were it not for Simon Kuznets, born in Belarus,
1901. In 1971, he got the Nobel Prize — yes, economics — for a lifetime spent crunching
data without a spreadsheet or computer. At the age of 17, he had the misfortune to learn
economics, statistics, history and mathematics in Kharkiv, presentday Ukraine, after which
the Russian civil war of 192021 drove him west.There, Kuznets landed his first degree, a
BSc, in 1923, Columbia University, followed one year later by a master's degree, followed in
1926 by a PhD: on the economics of Joseph Schumpeter, who told the world about creative
destruction.

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Thereafter, blahblah, till he pops up to tell Americans in the 1930s that there's a way to
measure everything, including how much money the nation is making and where it can hope
to go in the near future. Enter data and the cult of the growth rate.

So, two people have already won Nobel Prizes in economics, Kuznets in 1971 and Stone in
1984, for the tools to measure national income and — just possibly — growth rate. We now have a new star on the horizon: T C A Anant, chief statistician of India. tca , when he had a moustache and taught us in a haphazard way at the Delhi School of Economics in the early 1990s, has suddenly told us India grew 7.9% through January to March.

That translates to 7.6% in a year, which makes us the fastestgrowing economy in the world. This is not just bad manners, like passing wind at a family dinner, but an obscenity.

For the last two years, TCA's numbers have been in doubt, questioned by analysts and economists the world over. Reserve Bank of India governor Raghuram Rajan threw his hands up at his magic numbers long ago.

But this new 7.9% growth is something else: a crazy statistical fudge, a delight for emperors in need of clothes, spikes in the hearts of Kuznets, Stone turning in their graves from TCA's earlier myths. Here is why.

The bulk of the country's growth has apparently materialised from Rs 1,40,000 crore — try wrapping your mind around that number — of 'discrepancies' in our balancesheets.

To remind you, the number was less than Rs 30,000 crore a year ago.

TCA has conjured up a more than fourfold jump in 'discrepancies' and padded it to the gdp number.
Private consumption is also supposed to have grown: by an astronomical Rs 1,27,000 crore in one year. I do not know a single person whose consumption has recently rocketed up. Maybe TCA, or his boss Arun Jaitley , or his boss' boss Narendra Modi has friends like that.

Damn Lies & Statistics
Here is the embarrassing footnote: it is easy to bump up consumption (largely informal, hence poorly measured) numbers or 'discrepancies' to boost growth. It's tough to hide actual figures. The most frightening is a Rs 17,000 croreplus drop in investment, which reflects a lack of confidence in Modi's India. Take away the rubbish in data, our actual growth rate is around 4%, about half of what is being
claimed.

Real life disproves TCA's numbers. On Thursday, The Times of India reported that students in IITs and IIMs are on hunger strike because job offers have fallen through for nearly a year. If these guys — talented, goahead children — can't get a whitecollar job, what is Modi peddling? If we are clocking near 8%
growth, and consumption is shooting up, why has the valuation of Flipkart, the largest ecommerce
firm, been knocked down several times by investors?

This company cannot hire on campus because its pockets are empty. Its peers aren't doing any better. At the other end of the spectrum, the IT arm of L&T, India's largest infrastructure company, has reneged on 1,500 job offers made on campuses.

Meanwhile, all stateowned
banks are drowning in red: Bank of India lost more than Rs 6,000 crore in a year, tiny Canara Bank is nearly
Rs 4,000 crore in the red. Our largest bank, stateowned SBI, saw profits sliding 66%. So, here is India, shining on bombast, propped up by numerical mistruths. Ronald Coase, another Nobel laureate, said, "If you torture data long enough, it will confess to anything." Under TCA, it sang like the proverbial canary.
 
The point is that BD has a more severe infrastructure deficity than India and so can increase it's current 7%
GDP growth to 8-9% mark when this is remedied in the early 2020s.

What can India do to increase growth since as you say Indian infrastructure is much more impressive than BD currently?

Okay, Bangladeshi GDP will cross India's by 2020, China's by 2025, and USA's by 2030. Or do you expect it to be faster?
 

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