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China's massive navy is only getting bigger, and the US is looking overseas for help keeping its warships in action

China's massive navy is only getting bigger, and the US is looking overseas for help keeping its warships in action​

October 24 2023

  • For years, the US Navy has struggled to complete repairs of its ships on time.
  • Protracted delays heighten concerns about maintaining US naval presence in the Western Pacific.
  • To reduce workload at domestic shipyards and keep ships at sea, the US is looking for help overseas.
The rapid expansion of China's navy has heightened concerns about the availability of the US Navy's fleet, driving Washington to look abroad for help repairing warships that might otherwise face long delays at home.

China has the world's largest navy, with more than 370 ships and submarines in service in 2022, according to the Pentagon latest report on the Chinese military. Officials and experts say the US Navy's battleforce of roughly 300 ships has a qualitative advantage, but its edge has been dulled by protracted delays at domestic shipyards, problems that have the US looking to foreign shipyards to perform some maintenance and repairs its ships have had to leave the Pacific to receive.

The Government Accountability Office said in January that across 10 classes of US Navy ships, the average depot-maintenance delay per ship increased from 14 days in 2011 to 19 days in 2021. That number has improved, but delays persist amid other challenges at Navy shipyards.

The number of US shipyards has shrunk since the Cold War, and at the four public shipyards still in operation, "the condition of their dry docks and facilities is poor, and their equipment is generally past its useful life," the GAO said in June.

Public and private shipyards face some of the same challenges, including worker shortages. The Navy and Congress are pursuing shipyard upgrades and industrial-base investments that have had a positive impact, and the Navy is seeking high-tech tools to streamline the work. But the Biden administration is also looking abroad for help.

The US and India agreed "to explore possibilities" of using Indian shipyards for repairs and maintenance on US Maritime Sealift Command ships and mid-voyage repairs of US Navy ships during during a summit in April 2022.

That August, USNS Charles Drew, a dry cargo ship, arrived at Larsen & Toubro Shipyard in Chennai for what officials touted as the first repairs of a US Navy ship in India. It was followed in March by USNS Matthew Perry, also a dry cargo ship, and in July by USNS Salvor, a rescue and salvage ship.

Salvor was the first ship repaired in India following the signing of a Master Ship Repair Agreement with L&T Shipyard. The deal allows the shipyard to bid on US Navy and Military Sealift Command repair contracts and has "a rigorous vetting process" to ensure the shipyard can perform the work, the US consul general in Chennai said on July 10.

Another MSRA was reached with Mazgaon Dock Shipbuilders in Mumbai in August, and the US and India are working on a third for Goa Shipyard in Goa.

"These agreements will allow mid-voyage US Navy ships to undergo service and repair at Indian shipyards, facilitating cost-effective and time-saving sustainment activities for US military operations across multiple theaters," the White House said in June.

Navy Secretary Carlos Del Toro, the service's top civilian official, said in February that the ability to do "forward-based repair and maintenance is critical" and that the repair of USNS Charles Drew in India "was a perfect example of how well-executed we can do this mission."

"We're also looking at other opportunities throughout Asia as well to where we might be able to do that," Del Toro said at the National Press Club, "perhaps in the Philippines and Singapore and other places like that."

One of those places appears to be Japan. It hosts several US Navy bases where warships receive maintenance from Japanese workers, but more extensive or complex repairs, or work on nuclear-powered vessels, requires returning to a US shipyard, according to Nikkei Asia. Current and former officials have advocated expanding the scope of repair work done in Japan, turning to private shipyards to fix US warships so they can remain in the region longer.

Japan has "a tremendous amount" of shipyard capacity and its industrial base can be "a big part of the solution" to the US's problems, Rahm Emanuel, US ambassador to Japan, said at an event in March. Using private Japanese shipyards "will enhance our readiness, which will save lives, money, and time," Emanuel said in a Wall Street Journal op-ed in July, adding that "Japan has the capability and capacity to do the work."

Until the US can expand its own shipyard capacity, "we ought to look at, in the interim, using our allies' capabilities," Harry Harris Jr., a former commander of US Indo-Pacific Command, said at an event on October 16. "There's no better shipbuilding place in the world than South Korea and Japan and the like. We ought to use them to increase our capabilities."

Diverting repair work overseas and even using foreign shipbuilders to build auxiliary ships like those recently repaired in India could reduce the workload at US shipyards, allowing them to invest more resources in modernization, but doing so would likely worry US firms and the lawmakers who represent those shipyards and their employees.

"I know that's not optimal," Harris, a retired US Navy admiral, said of sending that work abroad. "We want to bring those shipyards to the US and rightly hire American workers to build those ships, but we're approaching extremis here. We need to be creative in how we go about fixing the industrial-policy shortfalls that we created ourselves."

US officials and lawmakers say US shipyards need continued investment but that tensions with China and the demand for US naval presence in the Western Pacific necessitates looking for more immediate options.

"We know that there is a need in the Indo-Pacific theater. We also know we have a challenge in making sure we maintain the proper workloads at our American repair yards," Rep. Rob Wittman, a Republican on the House Armed Services Committee, told Insider at an event on Capitol Hill on September 19.

"The reality is it's a logistical nightmare to bring a ship all the way back 6,000 miles if it needs emergency repairs," Wittman said. "So the question is how do we have that capacity there and maintain the ship-repair capacity in the United States, and I think we can do both."

Turning to India and Japan to repair ships would be "a force multiplier," Rep. Mike Gallagher, a Republican and chairman of House Select Committee on Strategic Competition with China, said at the same event.

"We can't think about our ships program as a jobs program. It's about national security. We need more ships. We need more repair yards," Gallagher told Insider. "It's all hands on deck within the free world right now, and I think something like that would simultaneously enhance our ability to repair ships more quickly and also be a deterrent in the Pacific."


its has been confirmed upto now that no navy can defeat CHinese navy, including USA :-)

 
China's more focus should be on Submarines. Specially those which can carry close to 100 cruise missiles in VLS and also those ones which carry Ballistic Missiles. That should be China's aim.
 

China beats US in ultimate military strength index while India comes in fourth​

China

China has the strongest military force in the world according to a study released on March 21 by defence website Military Direct. The study said "ultimate military strength index" was calculated after taking into consideration various factors including budgets, number of inactive and active military personnel, total air, sea, land and nuclear resources, average salaries, and weight of equipment. China has the strongest military in the world, scoring 82 out of 100 points in the index, it noted. China wins in a sea war with 406 ships vs Russia with 278 and the USA or India with 202, it said.

USA

"The USA, despite their enormous military budgets, comes in 2nd place with 74 points. The world's biggest military spender with a budget of USD 732 billion per year is the USA, it noted, adding that China comes second with USD 261 billion, followed by India at USD 71 billion.

Russia

Russia comes in third with a score of 69. The Russian Federation wins in a land war with 54,866 vehicles vs USA with 50,326 and China with 41,641," it mentioned.

India

India is fourth with a score of 61. Soldiers are not paid relatively highly but it is not known whether the report takes account into other benefits and various tax rebates. India has 202 ships.

 
I hope that Iran take your advice regarding the USS Liberty and attack the USS Gerald Ford and the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower. Am (ex)USAF and would not presume to speak for my Navy brothers and sisters, but in this case I think they would not mind an exception, that they are looking forward to seeing Iranians trying to board their ships. :enjoy:

 
I hope that Iran take your advice regarding the USS Liberty and attack the USS Gerald Ford and the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower. Am (ex)USAF and would not presume to speak for my Navy brothers and sisters, but in this case I think they would not mind an exception, that they are looking forward to seeing Iranians trying to board their ships. :enjoy:
Kind of like these guys I’m assuming.

 
Why are you so personally invested in seeing other countries and races submit? If you were white, I’d at least understand the knee jerk emotional attachment because of an attachment to white supremacy. Not that it’s justifiable to feel that way. However you’re not even white. Just find it very repulsive how invested you are in murdering and oppressing poor people halfway across the world for American corporate and imperial interests.
People from military backgrounds are heavily indocrinated and can only speak based on what they are indoctrinated with.
 
USA is not in favor of invading Gaza. If the Hamas had not gone around slaughtering hundreds of Israelis the status quo would have remained
And what a wonderful status quo it is...whereby 2.2 mn people are corralled in the biggest open air prison in the world where they have no control over their water, air, movement, borders and where every now and then Israel bombards the residential areas and flattens civilian buildings along with its residents.

If Israel hadn't occupied Palestinian lands and held them under a brutal occupation, Hamas attack wouldn't have happened in the first place.

Why don't Israel and it's supporters those complicit in the war crimes being committed against Palestinians on a perennial basis just let Palestinians go?
 
Why are you so personally invested in seeing other countries and races submit? If you were white, I’d at least understand the knee jerk emotional attachment because of an attachment to white supremacy. Not that it’s justifiable to feel that way. However you’re not even white. Just find it very repulsive how invested you are in murdering and oppressing poor people halfway across the world for American corporate and imperial interests.

This gambit is like Lindsey Graham. He is good at coming up reason for more war to satisfy his military industrial complex masters but would never step up to the front line himself. These people are only good at sending others to die. As the saying goes. The success of the war is measure by how much money made for the rich. But for the poor, the suffering is measured by how many lives lost.

People from military backgrounds are heavily indocrinated and can only speak based on what they are indoctrinated with.
I think they are grifters. They know what they are doing.
 
And what a wonderful status quo it is...whereby 2.2 mn people are corralled in the biggest open air prison in the world where they have no control over their water, air, movement, borders and where every now and then Israel bombards the residential areas and flattens civilian buildings along with its residents.

If Israel hadn't occupied Palestinian lands and held them under a brutal occupation, Hamas attack wouldn't have happened in the first place.

Why don't Israel and it's supporters those complicit in the war crimes being committed against Palestinians on a perennial basis just let Palestinians go?
never said it was wonderful or great
 
This gambit is like Lindsey Graham. He is good at coming up reason for more war to satisfy his military industrial complex masters but would never step up to the front line himself. These people are only good at sending others to die. As the saying goes. The success of the war is measure by how much money made for the rich. But for the poor, the suffering is measured by how many lives lost.
The difference between me and the rest of you is that at one point in my life, I actually served. Whereas with people like you, safe behind a firewall and keyboard, talking about how countries 'should' do this and that, it is YOU who are the true coward.

 
The difference between me and the rest of you is that at one point in my life, I actually served. Whereas with people like you, safe behind a firewall and keyboard, talking about how countries 'should' do this and that, it is YOU who are the true coward.
Thanks for your decision to serve. Unfortunately, you served the interests of the elite and the MIC instead of Americans. The US military indoctrinate the troops by creating the enemy based on orders from the deep state. And fight wars that benefit them but hurt the interest of the average Americans. This elite control of the government, especially the military,need to stop. And you need to be deprogrammed to understand the actual reality instead of an alternate perception that the elite indoctrinated you with.
 
People from military backgrounds are heavily indocrinated and can only speak based on what they are indoctrinated with.
He only claims to have a military background but no one knows for sure

here is a better diagnosis

"zeal of the convert" is commonly used in popular culture as it is believed that converts to new beliefs are likely to show more devotions than those born in the beliefs.

Think Nikki Haley and her 'whiter than white' behaviors&remarks. Same symptom.
 
Kind of like these guys I’m assuming.



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