JF-17 Block-3 -- Updates, News & Discussion

[Amavous]

Other technologies, including a new and larger holographic wide-angle head-up display and integrated cockpit display similar to the one used by the J-20

So this is 100% confirmed now?

 

[Dalit]

So this is 100% confirmed now?

@Bilal Khan (Quwa) @Shabi1

It is a reliable and trusted Chinese source.

It's a short range "dog fight" missile. Look up AIM9X to find out what it does and why its a great addition.

The beyond visual range missile (that relies on radar guidance) is likely to be 100km+.

Exactly. A long range BVR missile cannot be compared to a short range dogfight missile. Both have seperate utilities.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Interesting, What is the longest range BVR missile that the TuAF use?

They've the standard US ones. But, they're working on the indigenous WVR /BVR missiles with special electronic capabilities...

As for BVR Gokdo'an, range is in 75-105km range, but extension is possible....

Alternative to the AIM-120: Turkey Develops Gokdogan Long Range Air to Air Missiles for its F-16 Fighting Falcons

The Turkish Air Force has recently test fired two indigenous classes of air to air missiles, the Beyond Visual Range Gokdogan and the Visual Range Bozdogan. Both of these

militarywatchmagazine.com

As for WVR Bozdo'an, off-boresight capable IR (Imaging infrared) seeker with ll aspect engagement capability and counter-countermeasure capability. Range is 20-25km.

 

[Tornado23]

Its very low if we need to counter the violations

It's a short range missile....

 

[Thorough Pro]

It was an emergency war fix

Thanks for sharing, its really interesting information and so it was a floop experiment as no one adopted such concept later on

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

To me, it feels like the decision is to retrofit older blocks with AESA and upgraded avionics at the cost of 20 extra Block 3s.

They also ordered 26 JF-17Bs, which are basically Block-IIIs.

 

[Aryeih Leib]

They also ordered 26 JF-17Bs, which are basically Block-IIIs.

Do they have aesa ?

 

[kursed]

They also ordered 26 JF-17Bs, which are basically Block-IIIs.

True. But the point coming to mind is fairly simple, Pakistan wouldn’t have setup an assembly plant for just 30 AESA radars. Grifo and older KLJ-7 assembly lines went on to supply hundreds of aircrafts. If we are setting up an assembly line, that pretty much confirms retrofit of older blocks.

Given that we have an active overhaul program at PAC at the same time. The combination just makes logical sense. Both in terms of saving money and upgrading older blocks. This seems to be PAF’s own SABRE like program.

 

[TheSnakeEatingMarkhur]

What a coincidence!!!! Turkey is facing problems with Rafaels too for Greece is having them. The Turkish approach looks like upgrading the F16s with indigenous AESA radars, WVR/BVR missiles, EW pods etc. Not to mention indigenous SOJ (stand off jammer) aircrafts, and land and air based long range EW and AD.....

The Qatar AF has operationalized its Rafael fleet. I am pretty sure it’s electronic capability is being scrutinized to the last ounce to generate counter measure libraries for EW.....

If PAF can upgrade her F16s in this line it’ll be like a double down on the Rafaels....

I really like Turkish HAVASOJ planes... Pakistan get its AESA planes upgraded with that tech or maybe but a new one in future to replace or back current EW plane..

 

[m52k85]

Interesting, What is the longest range BVR missile that the TuAF use?

AMRAAMs like us, but they have the better c-7s, 10% more range among other benefits.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

I really like Turkish HAVASOJ planes... Pakistan get its AESA planes upgraded with that tech or maybe but a new one in future to replace or back current EW plane..

No wonder the western countries are competing with one another to put sanctions on the Turkish defense industries!! Ahh fools ahh!! The arrow has left the bow a long time back...,.,

 

[Ghessan]

True. But the point coming to mind is fairly simple, Pakistan wouldn’t have setup an assembly plant for just 30 AESA radars. Grifo and older KLJ-7 assembly lines went on to supply hundreds of aircrafts. If we are setting up an assembly line, that pretty much confirms retrofit of older blocks.

Given that we have an active overhaul program at PAC at the same time. The combination just makes logical sense. Both in terms of saving money and upgrading older blocks. This seems to be PAF’s own SABRE like program.

there seems certainly a logic behind ordering just 30 planes. i don't see some budgetary constraints rather it may be that the next batch will have some goodies (new engine etc) not ready for now but a delay was not acceptable hence first 30 are going ahead.

 

[Deino]

Wow, Global Times is PLA backed so this info will be very accurate. If it is true it seems JF-17 has many J-20 sub systems. That combined with PL-10 and PL-15 combo means it stands a good chance against Rafale and is no comprehensivley better equipped then Tejas

No. GT is not an official media from CAC or the PLAAF, they only report what is sanctioned and as such "not negative". They were often enough wrong before ...

 

[Deino]

Oh come on ... it's not a special J-20-only AAM, but simply the standard short-range AAM in PLAAF service used by all J-10C, J-16 and J-20. Nothing special but a video-clip with the title "JF-17 fighter jet gets J-10’s combat missile" was surely not bombastic enough.

PS: Why two more threads with the same no-saying title?

 

[Rafael]

True. But the point coming to mind is fairly simple, Pakistan wouldn’t have setup an assembly plant for just 30 AESA radars. Grifo and older KLJ-7 assembly lines went on to supply hundreds of aircrafts. If we are setting up an assembly line, that pretty much confirms retrofit of older blocks.

Given that we have an active overhaul program at PAC at the same time. The combination just makes logical sense. Both in terms of saving money and upgrading older blocks. This seems to be PAF’s own SABRE like program.

That nose color change in overhauled block 1s ring the bells.