New world order , FATF and India

[danger007]

Funny how many Al Qaeeda leaders were found hiding in Western capitals and had to be arrested and not drone bombed... Don't forget most Al Qaeeda and ISIS members came from European capitals... What do make of that? Complicityof European governments?? Fool.

But the most wanted person found near military base... that's different story..

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

But the most wanted person found near military base... that's different story..

Where is his body?

It was a drama to help Obama win.

 

[VkdIndian]

Entire world is scheming and conspiring against Pakistan?

Why? For what?
What is that capability that is causing entire world to get behind Pakistan?

Hassan Nisar puts this point across very correctly .

 

[Clutch]

But the most wanted person found near military base... that's different story..

It's the same city not next to a military base. There are military offices in European cities as well... Same correlation can be made.

Entire world is scheming and conspiring against Pakistan?

Why? For what?
What is that capability that is causing entire world to get behind Pakistan?

Hassan Nisar puts this point across very correctly .

Indian market access and Pakistan is the scapegoat... Same was done against Iraq's WMDs which did not exist however there was consensus against Iraq in IAEA.

 

[VkdIndian]

Same was done against Iraq's WMDs which did not exist however there was consensus against Iraq in IAEA.

In Iraq’s case, it was Iraq that got the ball rolling by attacking Kuwait. US had to find reasons to ensure that Iraq is taken down to ensure that Kuwaiti oil is safe.

India being a big market and motivating the entire world barring few countries ganging up against Pakistan doesn’t sound like a plausible reason. How would keeping Pakistan in FATF be better for the world other than the reasons the FATF was established. In fact, all these countries would like to sell their wares to both Pakistan and India.
How does keeping Pakistan in FATF help them sell more to India? Except weapons, all other kind of businesses can be done without any requirement to pick a side?

A self created illusion of being very important is a favourite argument. Even in India there are times when media and people start making similar claims of big powers hatching a conspiracy to keep it down.
No one has time and energy to waste on India and Pakistan by hatching illusionary conspiracies.

Hassan Nisar’s analysis seems the most logical one.

 

[Clutch]

In Iraq’s case, it was Iraq that got the ball rolling by attacking Kuwait. US had to find reasons to ensure that Iraq is taken down to ensure that Kuwaiti oil is safe.

India being a big market and motivating the entire world barring few countries ganging up against Pakistan doesn’t sound like a plausible reason. How would keeping Pakistan in FATF be better for the world other than the reasons the FATF was established. In fact, all these countries would like to sell their wares to both Pakistan and India.
How does keeping Pakistan in FATF help them sell more to India? Except weapons, all other kind of businesses can be done without any requirement to pick a side?

A self created illusion of being very important is a favourite argument. Even in India there are times when media and people start making similar claims of big powers hatching a conspiracy to keep it down.
No one has time and energy to waste on India and Pakistan by hatching illusionary conspiracies.

Hassan Nisar’s analysis seems the most logical one.

You are probably the only sadistic person who is justifying the illegal and immoral attack on Iraq in 2003. Gulf war one in 1991 was supported by the USA. It then was used as as an excuse by the USA for the following invasion (dessert Storm)

 

[nahtanbob]

Really.?..

Do you know any Iraqis ?

criminals have to pay for their sins

Rich this is coming from a country with a kleptocracy

Do your military generals have the balls to say the OBL raid was a fake ?

You are probably the only sadistic person who is justifying the illegal and immoral attack on Iraq in 2003. Gulf war one in 1991 was supported by the USA. It then was used as as an excuse by the USA for the following invasion (dessert Storm)

Why is USA responsible for the crap in the world ? USA never put Saddam in power. He was a Soviet proxy during the cold war. He chose to start wars with Iran and Kuwait. he killed his own citizens because of Shias and Kurds.

It is high time you own up your sh*t

 

[PradoTLC]

Rich this is coming from a country with a kleptocracy

not answering the question is evidence you have no answer.

Do your military generals have the balls to say the OBL raid was a fake ?

why would they?.. they were part of the racket....

General Kyani is in Australia enjoying his payoff.

now the question is will Indian generals ever admit

> the mass murder and rapes done in Kashmir
> Sugrical strike was fake
> Su-30 was shot down
> RAW operating out afganistan to conduct terrorism and sabotage on CPEC
> Kargil ops was poor performance
> 1965 war all Indian Armed Forces services performed poorly
> Indian army massacre of muslims in Hyderabad in 1947

 

[PradoTLC]

Entire world is scheming and conspiring against Pakistan?

Why? For what?
What is that capability that is causing entire world to get behind Pakistan?

Hassan Nisar puts this point across very correctly .

specially USA, Israel and India.

there are Pakistan's implacable enemies.

 

[nahtanbob]

not answering the question is evidence you have no answer.



why would they?.. they were part of the racket....

General Kyani is in Australia enjoying his payoff.

now the question is will Indian generals ever admit

> the mass murder and rapes done in Kashmir
> Sugrical strike was fake
> Su-30 was shot down
> RAW operating out afganistan to conduct terrorism and sabotage on CPEC
> Kargil ops was poor performance
> 1965 war all Indian Armed Forces services performed poorly
> Indian army massacre of muslims in Hyderabad in 1947

I am not Indian. I cannot answer all of your diatribes

If Kashmir is mass murder Pakistani army committed 100x mass murder in East Pakistan

If the Indian army performance in Kargil and 1965 was not great the Pakistani army's performance is not great. But I can tell the Pakistani army is clueless on political objectives of war.

 

[VkdIndian]

specially USA, Israel and India.

there are Pakistan's implacable enemies.

Yes they may be. Do they hold so much sway over FATF that they can keep Pakistan in grey list while other countries didn’t want to? I don’t think so. It has much wider representation and there is not veto by any country.

A little self analysis like the one by Hassan Nisar may be in order to understand this entire FATF business.

You are probably the only sadistic person who is justifying the illegal and immoral attack on Iraq in 2003.

Where would you place Iraqi attack on Kuwait? On sadistic scale.
Moreover, I am not justifying the attack, I was just bringing out the reality of world politics. Iraq brought it upon itself by ignoring this reality and tried to take over vast amounts of oil reserves.

US is a powerful country and goes around doing a lot of stuff that can’t be done by others. That’s the world order whether you or I like it or not.

 

[PradoTLC]

Do they hold so much sway over FATF that they can keep Pakistan in grey list while other countries didn’t want to?

yes.

FATF is now nothing more than political pressure group..

move over...

 

[VkdIndian]

yes.

FATF is now nothing more than political pressure group..

move over...

It is heartening to see that India has so much of sway over a world body like FATF.
And I am not saying it. It is you who is accepting it.
I still feel that FATF has a role to play. It may have few elements of push and pulls but it is not so biased as to put a country in a grey list for no reason.

Let’s move on at this note.

 

[PradoTLC]

I am not Indian.

I am so happy for you.

If Kashmir is mass murder Pakistani army committed 100x mass murder in East Pakistan

lies and it has been debunked. It never happened.

I cannot answer all of your diatribes

You cannot answer, because you lack knowledge, intellect and reasonability to take me on.

 

[Gripen9]

But the most wanted person found near military base... that's different story..

Who was allowed to ride out of caves of Tora Bora after being encircled by US SFs back in 2001. Care to explain that?