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WTF??? Lol. You do realise USA is not on the list!!! But India's ratings seem to be bad because of internal violence and insurgency, not war and arms spending. China would fare considerably well in that regards.

The USA is ranked on the Global Peace Index, look again.

But India's ratings seem to be bad because of internal violence and insurgency, not war and arms spending. China would fare considerably well in that regards.

Maybe it is because of the fact that your relations with your neighbours are violent enough, that cross-border militants repeatedly pull off massive attacks on your financial capital.

When was the last time China and Japan sent cross-border militants to each others countries, to shoot up hotels? Our "conflicts" are primarily economic and diplomatic ones.
 
The USA is ranked on the Global Peace Index, look again.

Maybe it is because of the fact that your relations with your neighbours are violent enough, that cross-border militants repeatedly pull off massive attacks on your financial capital.

When was the last time China and Japan sent cross-border militants to each others countries, to shoot up hotels? Our "conflicts" are primarily economic and diplomatic ones.

are you not aware of what happened at your uger majority province just yesterday or you delebratly skeeping it...
there was a long phone call conversation printed in media when a india newspaper called a top chines official on the issue , you may not like the source but what about the content...does china denied that the offical was misquoted , no !!
 
are you not aware of what happened at your uger majority province just yesterday or you delebratly skeeping it...

LOL that has nothing to do with conflicts with other nations, it is a purely internal matter.

Check the Terrorism Risk Index. China = Low Risk... India = High Risk

terrorism_map.jpg


Terrorism Risk Index - Maplecroft | Home
 
The USA is ranked on the Global Peace Index, look again.



Maybe it is because of the fact that your relations with your neighbours are violent enough, that cross-border militants repeatedly pull off massive attacks on your financial capital.

When was the last time China and Japan sent cross-border militants to each others countries, to shoot up hotels? Our "conflicts" are primarily economic and diplomatic ones.

Missed USA the first time.
External conflicts of both India and China are lower than a lot of western countries placed above us. But weapons spending of China would be way more than India. China is a big enough deterrent for countries to send in terrorists. Besides if there are any "Japanese terrorists" what are they gonna do? swim across the borders.
The insurgency I was referring to was something similar to what you face with Uighur rebels/militants.
 
Who is concerned?

India is spending their money on buying foreign weapons, rather than investing that same money in their own indigenous defence industry.

Any rivals to India should be thrilled! :P

if you are not concerned then why that comment in post no.2?

do you think that we can come up with an indigenous defence industry overnight?
these things take time to develop. what do you think we should do till then? wait like sitting ducks for our enemies to come and attack us?
before ranting here you should do some research about india. we are producing missiles like prithvi, agni, brahmos etc. in our own country. su-30mki is being manufactured by HAL in India. Also consider the nuke submarine Arihant, fighter jet LCA . These are just some examples of what we are producing indigenously. we import only those weapons which we cannot produce indigenously at the moment. but do not worry, after a few years we will be able to produce these too INDIGENOUSLY as we are currently developing our indigenous defence industry

As for your comment "Any rivals to India should be thrilled" i would say that they are very much concerned about India's massive military purchases and India's rising military power if you go by the latest reports.
 
The USA is ranked on the Global Peace Index, look again.



Maybe it is because of the fact that your relations with your neighbours are violent enough, that cross-border militants repeatedly pull off massive attacks on your financial capital.

When was the last time China and Japan sent cross-border militants to each others countries, to shoot up hotels? Our "conflicts" are primarily economic and diplomatic ones.



whats up with the religious unrest in peaceful china between uighurs and hans in the continuous spate of violence in China's western province of Xinjiang
i believe chinese are now pointing fingers at pak

long live ur friendship untill of course china realises the cost of friendship with pak


China finally ready to admit Pak's role in Xinjiang violence - The Times of India
 
LOL that has nothing to do with conflicts with other nations, it is a purely internal matter.

Check the Terrorism Risk Index. China = Low Risk... India = High Risk

terrorism_map.jpg


Terrorism Risk Index - Maplecroft | Home
Oh here ur pakistani friends would feel a lot seeing this pic .
By the way we didnt launch any military action against our citizens.
But there are separatist movements any where in world as in China.
China is suppressing them .
 
The obvious answer for your question will be: never compare the second biggest economy with the tenth one, most of all we have more than 3 trillion in our pocket while you have only less than 300 billion. :azn:

So is not your hard earned money as that was the only criteria ?
 
India is in the middle of a multi-billion dollar military spending spree that has quietly seen the country of Mahatma Gandhi and non-violent protest emerge as the world’s largest importer of arms. It is expected to retain that position for at least the next five years.

As the country works to expand its regional strategic influence and to counter what it considers existential threats from Pakistan and China, India now accounts for nine per cent of all global arms purchases. Its current defence budget of $36bn – an increase of around 11 per cent on the previous year – is more than double what it spends on education and health combined.

Speaking last week in Delhi, defence minister AK Anthony, said: “India has always been a votary of peace and advocated peaceful relations with all nations. [But] we need to ensure optimum deterrence to fully safeguard the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the nation. Peace and security go hand in hand with social and economic progress and depend upon one another.”

Delivering the keynote address at a conference on arms acquisition, where officials confirmed India’s position as the world’s biggest importer, Mr Anthony added: “Today, the nature of warfare has shifted and challenges range from asymmetric threats, terrorism, internal disturbances as well as conventional warfare in a nuclear backdrop. On our part we need to develop the latest strategic and conventional capabilities.”

Over the past five years, more than 80 per cent of India’s defence purchases have come from Russia. But the splurge has seen defence contractors from around the world taking up long-term residency in Delhi’s five-star hotels, vying to fulfill demands from all three wings of the armed services. Recent purchases have included 155mm howitzers from the UK for the army, C-17 Globemaster heavy-lift planes from the US for the air force and submarines from France for the navy.

One of the most sought-after contracts concerns a $11bn order for 126 fighter aircraft. The Indian authorities have whittled a short-list down to just two contenders, the Typhoon produced by Eurofighter, a consortium made up of British, German, Italian and Spanish manufacturers, and the Rafale, produced by the French company Dassault.

In an indication of the sharp-elbowed nature of the scrabble for the contract, Indian journalists were briefed over two days last week about the abilities of the Typhoon in presentations organised jointly by the Royal Air Force and BAE systems, the British firm involved in Eurofighter. During the sessions at the Royal International Air Tattoo at RAF Fairford in Gloucestershire, which also included presentations from the Chief of the Air Staff, Sir Richard Dalton, and his German counterpart, Aarne Kreuzinger Janik, the journalists were told that in recent operations in Libya the Typhoo had demonstrated its “exceptional multi-role capability” and had outperformed the Rafale.

Analysts say India’s spending spree is driven by several factors, including – with the exception of shipbuilding - an inadequate domestic defence production capacity. Strategically, it is driven by both defensive concerns, particularly in regard to what is considers Chinese growing ambitions in south Asia, and a desire to project power and influence regionally. Its spending on arms leapt after the Mumbai attacks of November 2008.

Brigadier Gurmeet Kanwal, director of the Centre for Land Warfare Studies in Delhi, said: “Pakistan is an immediate threat because of proxy wars. China remains a longer term threat...China is engaged in strategic encirclement of India. It has done this through proxies such as Pakistan, Nepal, Bangladesh and Burma. It’s a potential source of conflict.”

India’s top brass, remindful of the embarrassing drubbing it received in 1962 at the hands of the Chinese, is deeply suspicious of China’s relationship with Pakistan. It is also sensitive about Beijing’s ongoing claims over territory in both Kashmir and Arunachal Pradesh and its road-building projects in those areas. Belatedly India has begun looking to improve its own infrastructure in these remote areas.

“There are also internal conflicts in India – not just in Kashmir, but in regard to [Maoist rebels],” said Siemon Wezeman, of the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute, which first revealed India’s position as the largest arms importer earlier this year. Data collated by the institute showed that China, South Korea, Pakistan and Greece were the other major importers of arms. The top five exporters over the last five years were the US, Russia, Germany, France and Britain.

India’s defence budget only equals two per cent of GDP and in terms of total military spending Delhi is in 10th place, behind not only the US and China, but Britain, Germany and Saudi Arabia. Many within the military establishment believe India should increase its defence spending even more, to around three per cent of GDP.

Yet some analysts and industry insiders detect an uncertainty within the broader Indian establishment about what role it should play. While India might purport to take on a larger regional position, as evidenced by moves such as a recent defence agreement signed with the Maldives, there remains an apparent reluctance to take on greater responsibility.There are also strong voices within India who argue that in a country where hundreds of millions of people are living in poverty, there are more pressing spending priorities.

The representative of one major US weapons manufacturer who spends many months of the year in India, said there was an opportunity for Delhi to do more, for instance, in helping police sea-lanes in the Gulf, and other areas strategists refer to as the global commons.

Over afternoon tea at Delhi’s Taj Palace hotel, the representative, who asked not to be identified, asked: “Is India happy with the idea of exporting security? There is a fundamental dichotomy...The military civilian separation is quite wide. But it’s coming to a head. The security issue is growing. India feels threatened by China and does not know what to do.”

Brig Kanwal was even more blunt. “We have a very passive strategic culture,” he said. “India is not comfortable with power itself, leave alone the use of force. India has the potential to become a key player but as President Barack Obama said, with power comes responsibility.”

Peace-loving India, the world's largest arms importer - Asia, World - The Independent

Typical journalistic squish!

The land of Mahatma Gandhi! That means sit back and yank the spinning wheel and make handmade yarn, dabble in the esoteric and allow all and sundry to nibble India to the size of a postage stamp! A brilliant idea!

Impendent is a left leaning liberal newspaper that is also known to waver to the right wing when the necessity dictates. In short, confused!

The article conveniently forgets that India is a Nuclear state and is thus can be categorised as a ‘danger to humanity’ and yet, it has never used the state for nuclear blackmail as others have done or proliferate as one of the Security Council member flagrantly does to include give delivery system through its proxy! Therefore, if India imports weapons, it is for her defence for it does have belligerent neighbours who are arming to the teeth! I wonder if Mahatma Gandhi would be against being prepared for survival in a sea of hostility.

The article is quick to point out that the Indian defence budget has increased by 11%, but conveniently forgets to mention it in terms of the GDP pie! The article also has amnesia that the price of weapons and platforms has skyrocketed and Western nations, to include the newspaper’s own country, have no ‘friendship’ price for India as it has for Australia and other white nations!

The article conveniently misses out the fact that there has been no major military purchases after the Kargil War and that the world and threat perceptions have changed beyond recognition. Therefore, the void is immense, more so as the current military equipment is becoming obsolescent. It is a moot point as to why the UK itself is still not happy with the Lee Enfield bolt actions rifles that stood the test of WWII!!!

What is the big deal if defence contractors around the world come to 5 star hotels? If the Western people wanted to stay in jhuggi, jhopris, did India stop them? It is their choice. How is India responsible for that? A good build up of the background atmosphere for the squish being passed of news report.

So, what’s the brouhaha about?

Of course, this type of news is music to the neighbours for good reasons!

The other point for British heartburn is that India has the money while Britain has none resulting in its armed forces becoming a trifle better than the banana republics!
 
Bangladesh has been accused of harboring terrorist groups that act against India. Bangladesh has also been accused of fueling the insurgencies in the seven sister states in North East India. Bangladesh has also been accused of having close ties with Pakistan's ISI. All in all, Bangladesh is also a perceived threat to India on some levels. Nepal brings about the threat of Maoism inside India, especially with the alleged training of Indian Maoists inside Nepal, under the protection of the Nepali Maoists.

Not Bangladesh.The Governmentt in BD is the friendliest of all to India in South Asia. Bangladesh state policy was never to harm india unlike some others.

Also maoist scums in nepal arent refelctive of the whole governemt or the people. Already there is a huge churning against the maoists in Nepal as i witnessed during my last visit there and interesting/distressing times are ahead for those scums in nepal.
 
see until and unless china doesnt get hit by a shocker similar to u.s. They won't understand that how big a threat terrorism has become .i hope that day never come, but when u r near fire u r bound to catch it
 
China is well aware.

China is a slim customer.

See how they are outside the world glare sorting out the Uighurs Muslims who they call as terrorists.
 
Who is concerned?

India is spending their money on buying foreign weapons, rather than investing that same money in their own indigenous defence industry.

Any rivals to India should be thrilled! :P

Allow India and those who run it the intelligence to decide for themselves.

If there is no concern or interest then why step in ?
 
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