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Here is the speech where the translator breaks down in emotions and starts to tear up crying.. [From today's Zelenskyy speech for the European parliament]


he starts to break down
My suspicion that Freedom Square missile attack was a false flag is strengthened now after Zelensky's speech before EU.

How evil of these Zelensky-&-cronies, if true.

Zelensky knew he was going to make a pitch before EU the very next day, and attacked his own people, again. Just to generate sympathies.

This criminal Zelensky's whole focus in his speech was on Freedom Square. He kept repeating same thing trying to rub it into EU's face.
Attacked his own building just the day before his speech before EU.
Choose to attack an irrelevant building's grass lawn, and hurt people in adjoining parking lot.
This criminal Zelensky admitted that this is a pro-Russian city (Russia won't send cruise missiles to a pro-Russian city, only Zelensky would).
Selected the name "Freedom" for the target, then tried to rhyme his speech around it. Mentioning Freedom sq @ 4-5 times / minute.
Sorry but the translator breaking down was fakery, poor acting skills.

These are hallmarks of a false flag.

Lmao, this is hilarious. The amount of propaganda people eat is funny.

OK. You don't have to laugh your *** off though. Keep it together please.

Below is another propaganda (according to your reading of things) that I ate yesterday. I don't want you to be laughing your *** off again, so watch calmly please:



On the other hand, you don't eat any propaganda looks like:
You can thank Elon Musk for that. He recently provided Ukraine with a bunch of his starlink receivers to keep Ukraine connected via satellite.
True, but it probably helped, as the infrastructure was getting damaged and connectivity was slowly going down. It seems to have stabilized, probably tanks to starlink.
When was that announcement made, 3-4 days ago?
Delivery time for Starlink in non-war areas is upto 2 weeks.
Yeah, right, thanks to Elon Musk internet is alive in Ukraine. Not because Russians didn't attempt to damage such infrastructure like that guy who lives in Kiev said @1:05+ below:





And then this on top of it:

For any Ukrainians to make use of Starlink, they have to get their hands on one of these Starlink terminals, which are made by SpaceX. (For regular customers, a Starlink kit costs $499, and the service is $99 a month.) SpaceX did not respond to questions about the number of active terminals in Ukraine right now, or how many terminals the company plans to send to the country.

These terminals must be within several hundred miles of ground stations that communicate with Starlink satellites before the satellites beam signals down to those dishes. There are no such stations inside Ukraine, but there are enough in neighboring countries to “provide service to the whole of Ukraine without issues,” Mike Puchol, the chief technology officer at an internet start-up who also runs a tracker of Starlink coverage, told me.

If and when Ukrainians can get connected, there’s also the matter of the service’s quality. Starlink, according to SpaceX’s website, requires a clear view of the sky to maintain a direct line of sight between the terminal and satellites passing overhead. Last spring, when the product was still in its beta-test phase, some users found that trees on the horizon, sometimes even a single tree, could disrupt the signal. Some user reports suggest service has improved since then, but disruptions can still occur. “If a few trees can block your Starlink connection, I’m pretty sure Russia or China or another state actor can,” Weeden said.


Even if Starlink worked perfectly, the use of satellite technology can be risky in wartime, John Scott-Railton, a senior researcher at the University of Toronto’s Citizen Lab, told me. Transmissions between ground receivers and satellites can become beacons for air strikes. “None of this is new,” Scott-Railton said. “The only new thing is Starlink, which has never really been tested in a context of battle.”
 
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This is a lie, you are lying. I said no such thing.

From this post :
Also, I still can't believe people are calling Zelensky a nazi. Talk about eating Russian propaganda.

And then I corrected you here and @Clutch corrected you here.

I am saying you need to respect South American tradition if you want to learn things about Chavez, telling me to tell you stuff that I know about him in English is like you want Obama Bin Laden to speak to you in English, the laungage he hated.

You have no idea what Hugo Chavez stand for aren't you LOL

No es tu madre en la casa blanca jajaja

Que Saberle Chavista? Bonchitta? Jajaja

That's illogical. So an African or Indian peasant fed up of oppression by the local feudal or the king had to learn Arabic to know of the political and socio-economic justice-oriented ideology of Islam ? So the same Indian peasant, in Naxalbari region in the 1960s, had to learn Russian to know of the justice and harmony-seeking ideas of Communism ?
 
You said "I can tell you everything about El Comandante" and and now you say "Everybody know El Comandante". You presented yourself as if you were in his revolution i.e. you were a Chavista. I was surprised by that since you also presented yourself to be an American military intelligence officer. Now that is a contradiction. You cannot be a Chavista while also being the American government agent who is trying to regime-change the Venezuelan Bolivarian revolution. So what are you ?

@Musings, what to say about him ?



So there is no difference between Chavez and the CIA-assisted Venezuelan opposition because they both speak Spanish ?
Face it, you know nothing about Venezuela and Hugo Chavez and you pretend you know what he is standing for

And you either have a mind that can't process information that you have no idea what it is about, yet you use term like Chavista or Bolivarian Revolution. as if you know, no, scratch that, you ARE in those movement.

The movement is not about socialism, the movement is about South American identity, a lot of people who oppose socialism still appreciated what Hugo Chavez or Che stand for, as much as I have no love about Trump and I do understand what US President Stand for, just because he is not what I vote for does not make me opposite the office of US president, but as the old saying goes, if you have to ask, you don't belong here. But then you are even worse, you know shit, but you pretend you do and you refused to ask.

And as I said, this is all I am going to say, don't speak of Hugo Chavez like you know the man. I will not be replying to you anymore, there are no need, because this tell me you know nothing about stuff other than what you want to believe, and that is for me one giant pile of Bullshit.

You have a good night.
 
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I doubt that little amount is keeping the internet alive.
The infrastructure is still intact in most cases it seems.

I don't have doubts given that they've skipped most of the civil infrastructure so far
True, but it probably helped, as the infrastructure was getting damaged and connectivity was slowly going down. It seems to have stabilized, probably tanks to starlink.
 
So this gentleman will not denounce NATO's imperialism in Eastern Europe and in his own Africa ? Until 1969 Libya had one of the biggest American military bases in the world and Gaddafi and comrades kicked that out. Gaddafi gone in 2011 and American imperialism in Africa is back.

The gentleman should look back at another great African leader, Kwame Nkrumah, who was of leftist persuasion and would have perhaps looked at the speaking gentleman's legitimization of NATO's POV with amusement.

Kenya is a puppet state for UK and the West. Wherever direction that Queen Elizabath wants them to go, they would abide by it. Zelensky is a puppet of the West. Kenyan leaders are puppets. So puppets go hand in hand.
 
My suspicion that Freedom Square missile attack was a false flag is strengthened now after Zelensky's speech before EU.

How evil of these Ukrainians.

Zelensky knew he was going to make a pitch before EU and killed his own people, again. Just to generate sympathies.

This criminal's whole focus in his speech was on Freedom Square. He kept repeating same thing trying to rub it into EU's face.
Attacked his own building just the day before his speech before EU.
Choose to attack an irrelevant building's grass lawn, and hurt people in adjoining parking lot.
This criminal (Zelensky) admitted that this is a pro-Russian city (Russia won't send cruise missiles to a pro-Russian city).
Selected the name "Freedom" for the target, then tried to rhyme his speech around it. Mentioning Freedom sq @ 4-5 times / minute.
Sorry but the translator breaking down was fakery, poor acting skills.

These are hallmarks of a false flag.
Deception is one of the primary tactics in a war.
 
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And then I corrected you here and @Clutch corrected you here.
Read what you wrote, and what I wrote, and realize just how much of a dishonest arrogant person you are. What I wrote and what you claim I said are TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THINGS! ALSO, I ADDRESSED THE AZOV BATTALION ISSUE ALREADY!!
 
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I wonder if Putin calculated that the invasion will come down to this level of street fighting and destruction of civilian infrastructure before the start. International attention aside, he now has a big problem even if his military objectives are met. Does he really expect people to forget the destruction and then learn to support whatever puppet gov. he tries to install?! :undecided:
 
I want peace to prevail. This situation has gotten well out of hand.
I wish for peace too. But it has been long coming since Crimean Invasion in 2014. Both sides are no angels. But I am slightly tilted towards Russia on this due to NATO's continous expansion from the start. It was only a matter of time before the big bear wakes up.
 
@jhungary

I think facts from first days are solid enough to asses what Ukrainians did wrong militarily. Will you be glad to join in?
  1. No early mobilisation despite Americans keeping nailing them about it.
  2. Territorials only managed to form in Kiyv, West Ukraine. C&C broke down in other places, and where else they did manage to do anything it was like "weapons dumped on the ground, grab one if you want."
  3. Some of the military did get advanced warning, like aviation which went to road basic 1 hours before the attack, but for regular solders, and low-tier officers it was a shock, thus little preparedness, especially in the south.
  4. Own shambolic logistics problems. NLAWs from Kiyv arsenal being late to Karkiv by 5 days. Convoys sent in first days of the war to form territorials in the South, and Karkiv didn't reach before Russian encirclement.
  5. Lack of use of reserves from deep withing the country to initiate own new offensives.
  6. They moved too much resources deep into Kiyv, and doing nothing, while the small detached forces were already proving very good at destroying Russians in the surrounding countryside.
  7. Heavy weapons, artillery, MLRS moved to frontlines too late, and too little ammo despite them knowing that they will have to absorb thousands of units of armour.
  8. Precision weapons started lose oomph when Russians started simply pushing convoys with 100+ pieces of armour. Barakar will takeout 4 vehicles, but can't really break it because they have redundancy for ammo, fuel, and C&C.
  9. Raw firepower being disregarded, as stated above.
  10. Not rebasing their C&C, and intel centres in their majority despite knowing that Russians have had them marked.
  11. Not utilising NATO intel (if they really had it) to their fullest. There were many instances where OSInt brought to the public eye extremely valuable sitting duck targets which should've been traded for few remaining planes Ukraine had, like field logistics bases, parked helis, spotted comms units.
  12. Spent its tactical missiles on Russian airfields, when it was already clear that Russians are afraid to fly above Ukraine.
  13. Failed multiple times to retake the initiative in chokepoints after 27th, especially around Kiyv, when they had an opportunity to push the right to Chernobyl, which would've been the mother of all chokepoints.
  14. More or less the same in the South, but this more or less stems from low number of forces there.
  15. 28th was they last day they had the initiative, and they conceded it by switching on defensive too prematurely, while knowing that the enemy is staging, and regrouping

But this all pales to one big elephant in the room:

The worst mistake Ukrainians made was to elect a pacifist.
 
I wonder if Putin calculated that the invasion will come down to this level of street fighting and destruction of civilian infrastructure before the start. International attention aside, he now has a big problem even if his military objectives are met. Does he really expect people to forget the destruction and then learn to support whatever puppet gov. he tries to install?! :undecided:
That's why he has to take Kyiv, unless he destroyed the previous government, he cannot elect a puppet regime. Because Ukrainian will call him Bullshit. (Even if he toppled Ukrainian government, they will still call him bullshit)

I don't see any other way but an insurgency, and that would work against Russia, the last time they face insurgency, Soviet Union lost 15 client state. And they weren't doing it under sanction.
 
I wonder if Putin calculated that the invasion will come down to this level of street fighting and destruction of civilian infrastructure before the start. International attention aside, he now has a big problem even if his military objectives are met. Does he really expect people to forget the destruction and then learn to support whatever puppet gov. he tries to install?! :undecided:
No plan survives the first contact with the enemy. I forgot who said it. :)
 
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