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Taliban chief Akhtar Mansoor dead, Taliban deny.

The Americans were in direct communication via back channel with the Taliban and other entities, now you don't know where the intel came from. The situation is very murky even those pro-afghani govt groups conduct business with the Taliban and both have a relationship with the US.

It is just a god damn mess there are warlords who have their own agenda/drug business/taliban/pro afgan govt/ = one continuous war...
 
From that incident we can easily say that America should never to trusted
 
U.S. strikes top Taliban leader in Pakistan


By Missy Ryan and Tim Craig May 22 at 4:15 AM
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Pentagon press secretary Peter Cook, announcing the airstrike in a statement, said Mansour had posed a danger to U.S. and Afghan forces and to local civilians, and had disrupted U.S.-backed efforts to broker a political solution to Afghanistan’s long conflict.

“Mansour has been an obstacle to peace and reconciliation between the Government of Afghanistan and the Taliban, prohibiting Taliban leaders from participating in peace talks with the Afghan government,” Cook said.

A senior Afghan Taliban commander told the Associated Press early Sunday that Mansour was killed in the attack. Mullah Abdul Rauf told the news agency that Mansour died in the strike late Friday night “in the Afghanistan-Pakistan border area.” U.S. officials have not confirmed Mansour’s death. The office of Afghan President Ashraf Ghani also has not confirmed Mansour’s death, but Chief Executive Abdullah Abdullah said that Mansour is “more than likely” dead.

If confirmed, Mansour’s death would be a significant development as Afghan government troops, backed by a small contingent of U.S. and partner forces, prepare to take on an emboldened Taliban during what is expected to be a punishing summer fighting season.
Officials said it was too soon to say what the death of Mansour, who emerged as the Taliban chief in summer 2015, would mean for that fight.

Mansour took on the public mantle as Taliban leader after the news broke that Mohammad Omar, the movement’s iconic longtime chief, had died in 2013.

While Mansour, who had been an aide to Omar and a Taliban transportation minister, prevailed in the initial succession struggle following Omar’s death, he faced significant rivalries within Taliban ranks and, in a sign of the scale of those fissures, was said in unconfirmed reports to have been shot during a meeting of militants late last year.

At the same time, U.S. and coalition officials have been surprised at how quickly he managed to overcome internal divisions within the group. Mansour repeatedly rebuffed outreaches from Pakistan and elsewhere that the Taliban enter into peace talks with the Afghan government.

Instead, according to U.S. and Afghan military officials, he called on the Taliban to fight at least through this year to see whether the group could maximize its strategic bargaining position. Mansour also infused the leadership of the Haqqani network, which the United States considers a terrorist group and which for years operated as a somewhat independent offshoot of the Taliban, into his command structure.

In recent weeks, Brig. Gen. Charles H. Cleveland, chief spokesman for coalition forces in Afghanistan, has stated that Sirajuddin Haqqani, who was named Mansour’s top deputy, has been taking a leading role in planning battlefield strategy.

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Andrew Wilder, vice president of Asia programs at the U.S. Institute of Peace and a longtime Afghanistan expert, said that Mansour’s death would be unlikely to have a major impact on the level of violence in Afghanistan.

“You could see some factional fighting that could take some pressure off the government, but in general, I don’t think it’s going to lead to a significant reduction in the fighting,” he said. “I think any successor is going to use the fight against the government to unify Taliban factions around [his] leadership.”
That will have implications for the U.S. military mission in Afghanistan. With about 9,800 troops on the ground, the U.S. presence is far smaller than it was at the height of Obama’s troop surge and is now more narrowly focused on advising Afghan forces and fighting al-Qaeda, rather than battling the Taliban.

But that focus has become more difficult to maintain as the Taliban has grown stronger across Afghanistan and threatened the stability of the U.S.-backed government in Kabul. As local forces have grappled with repeated Taliban offensives, U.S. commanders have sought to provide vital support, raising questions about whether the United States can truly shift away from the Taliban fight.

“The United States may not be at war with the Taliban, but that doesn’t mean that the Taliban and especially its most senior leadership isn’t continuing to target U.S. and partner forces and facilities, and isn’t very destabilizing for Afghanistan’s future, which also threatens U.S. interests,” said Ambasssador Daniel F. Feldman, who was Obama’s special representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan until last year.

The ongoing insecurity has also prompted Obama, who came into office promising to end the long wars launched by his predecessor, to delay his withdrawal plans several times.

In Pakistan, Foreign Office spokesman Nafees Zakaria said, “I have seen the reports. We are seeking clarification. I reiterate Pakistan’s principled position that the Taliban must give up violence and come to negotiation table as called for by the QCG (Quadrilateral Coordination Group). I also reiterate that military action is not a solution.”

The American strike in Baluchistan, outside of the tribal regions where most U.S. air attacks have taken place, may introduce a new note of tension into U.S.-Pakistani ties.

According to the Long War Journal, which tracks airstrikes in Pakistan, this is the first time the United States has been reported to have conducted a strike in Baluchistan. All but two of its 392 strikes in Pakistan have taken place in the tribal regions along Pakistan’s border with Afghanistan.

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When Mansour was initially appointed, most analysts believed that Pakistan’s military and intelligence had pushed for him to be named as Omar’s replacement. But Mansour’s resistance has proved to be a major obstacle to peace talks, which Pakistan’s military and government have supported.

Pakistani leaders and analysts had begun to quietly tell U.S. diplomats and journalists that they no longer had the leverage over the Taliban that they did in the past. While it was hard to document the veracity of those statements, it did appear that frustration was also building in Islamabad over the Taliban’s refusal to join talks.
It’s not clear who might assume leadership of the Taliban and whether the organization will solidify or fracture after Mansour’s death. Designating Haqqani as leader, for example, could signify a hardening of the Taliban’s reluctance to enter peace talks.

But Feldman said Mansour’s death might bring new possibility. “I would hope that his death, once confirmed, would signal to the Taliban that there’s a new opportunity to engage in good-faith reconciliation efforts,” he said. “That type of negotiated political settlement is what we’ve always said this conflict would require for long-term resolution.”

Craig reported from Islamabad.

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Still I don't that there is any official announcement from the Taliban side. The taliban does not uses the telephone or other electronic communication, the uses paper messages delivered by messenger to spread messages. Such news of taliban leader killed may reach the taliban factions before the its denial message could reach. They american might use it to create a rift between the taliban faction. We have to wait three or four days before the news is actually confirmed on solid grounds.
 
I feel ISI leaked the whereabouts of Akhtar Mansoor to America......
 
Nah, Happy Al-Bakistan embarrasements, 2009 to ~~~



Nah, if it would, he will be dead in Afghan soil. You mean ISI is against Pakistan's soveriengnity?
All the drone strikes inside Pakistan are done with permission and cooperation of Pakistan army, nothing surprising about it. Sirajuddin Haqqani is likely to be the next leader of whole Afghan Taliban , who is a favorite of ISI.
 
Get this through your thick head, unlike you we are a sovereign nation and not some western or Indian stooges, Afghan Taliban's are not our enemy and we will not fight an American war for you or them, fight your own battles and stop whining.

We have allies in terms of China, potential Russia, Turkey and the Arab states so tell us again how are we isolated?

Take a chill pill dude :) the more you become emotional the worse it gets.

- Reality is that he was carrying a Pakistani passport and was taken out by a foreign UAV that were flying with impunity in Pakistani soil. You can't give shelter to groups like them and expect others to take you a sovereign state.

Emotions are running high in Pakistan I understand but any sane operator will take stock of things and recalibrate their polices so that similar incidents don't occur again. OBL, Mullah Omar, Mansoor these are real episodes and Pakistan's need to a step back and see how it fare in greater scheme of things.

- Turkey, Arabs, Russia or China for that matter won't take a bullet for Pakistan, everyone follow their interests, do you really think any of these countries will standby Pakistan when she now cries foul play?

/Peace

Welcome to Afghan civil war 2016 - 2030.

Welcome to Afghan civil war 2016 - 2030.

Civil War? I only see a war against a foreign backed proxy which will end this year with the Burka Offensive in full play.
 
Just wondering when Uncle Sam hit a perfect one on Mullah Radio as well! Oh Waite he is in special security of Afghan Govt:coffee:
 
All the drone strikes inside Pakistan are done with permission and cooperation of Pakistan army, nothing surprising about it. Sirajuddin Haqqani is likely to be the next leader of whole Afghan Taliban , who is a favorite of ISI.

Haqqanis are marked as global terrorist group which means that any country supporting terrorists will be marked in categories of Sudan, Iran and Syria aka State Sponsor of Terrorists. The F 16 episode should be a wake up call.

Just wondering when Uncle Sam hit a perfect one on Mullah Radio as well! Oh Waite he is in special security of Afghan Govt:coffee:

He should be taken out as well! No difference between him or Mullah Mansoor.
 
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Apart from Mullah akhtar there is only one other group powerful enough to take over the leadership of Taliban which is Haqqani network. Haqqani is the perfect candidate as he is hated by Americans and Afghan government alike and bear a ruthless image. If pakistan can exert its influence properly they will be able to bring haqqanis to the table and end this nightmare once and for all.

Its just something someone once old me and i actually took it as a joke but it is starting to make sense. Who knows maybe all hell will break loose now but its just a theory.
d that very haqqani network previlaged to white house tour in 80s

Elimnating taliban who are major major stack holders of afghanistan that this foreign govt of afghanistan only make case powerfull for talibans more people will join 13-years have passed US still cant elimnate any talibans

Osama capture was a lie keep hearing it

Talibans like radio and other anti pakistan sentiment will be granted vip services in afghanistan from US india and afghanistan
 
According to the Long War Journal, which tracks airstrikes in Pakistan, this is the first time the United States has been reported to have conducted a strike in Baluchistan. All but two of its 392 strikes in Pakistan have taken place in the tribal regions along Pakistan’s border with Afghanistan.

Source: https://defence.pk/threads/taliban-...dead-taliban-deny.431561/page-5#ixzz49NkVBgBy

Now this should be worrisome for Pakistan establishment.
 
Haqqanis are marked as global terrorist group which means that any country supporting terrorists will be marked in categories of Sudan, Iran and Syria aka State Sponsor of Terrorists. The F 16 episode should be a wake up call.



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America and other powers play the same game...........America itself is the biggest terrorist and bully country
 
Would you extend the same logic to TTP?
The only good taliban is the crispy one.
After more than a decade of fighting, the Taliban still roam freely in the hinterland of Afghanistan. The province Farah and Helmand...almost the entire countryside is under their control. Significant portions of Western areas of Afghanistan are under the control of Haqqani network/Afghan Taliban...and you still think that a military solution will work in Afghanistan and that too after the withdrawal of the US/NATO troops...well, good luck with that. And good luck with the pedophile/drug addict Afghan security forces.
 
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