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You are free to support Ghaddar Chor tola no one is stopping you.
Video shows Ahsan Iqbal heckled in restaurant by PTI supporters
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Fazlu k lodge me bi yei kuch hota.
Ahsan Iqbal is a certified chor liar corrupt tareen criminal.
Ye jahan bi jae ga is ki aal aulad pr lanat barse gi.
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Every has right of free speech ab Bardasht PTI ko b karna hoga qk Patwari biryani k piche kuch b bakwas kar sakte hain.Dont cry if same happens to PTI leaders. Actually worse will happen.
Imran Riaz ky saath bhi sahi ho raha hai.
Ab iskay saath Pakistan police karay gi phir mat rona
Or PMLN ki to age b kutte wali ho rehi he.
Or Imran Riaz k sath jisne kia woh to PMLN ka core worker he awan se lao na Patwario.
And isne konsa jurm kia he jo Police iske sath kuch karegi
free speech is not a crime unless inho ne video band kar k Corruption k Faide btane wale ki dhulai ki he they can legally do nothing.Chor ko chor kehne se jal to rehi he sabki
1 chawal misogyny kar sakta he or dusra usko sarha sakta he twitter pe leking awam chor ko chor nai keh sakti ?
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One large McZalalat with an extra topping of bistee please
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AVOIDED LEGAL ACTION AGAINST HECKLERS DUE TO WOMEN, CHILDREN INVOLVEMENT: AHSAN IQBAL
PML-N leader Ahsan Iqbal has said that he avoided legal action against PTI supporters who heckled him at a local restaurant yesterday due to women and children, ARY News reported.
Addressing a press talk in Islamabad on Saturday, the Planning and Development minister said that PTI has fanned polarization in society. Hecklers did not tarnish his image but exposed their upbringing, he added.
The Pakistan Muslim League Nawaz (PML-N) leader added that he expected Imran Khan to promote sportsman spirit in politics but he disappointed him. Imran Khan is promoting hatred in politics, he added.
Ahsan Iqbal said that the people of Narowal love him and send him to the assembly. Every sensible person has condemned the incident, besides the PTI leaders, whose only job is to talk ill of people, he added. Avoided legal action against hecklers because women and children were involved, he added.
‘I have put my case into the public’s court’
Things could have escalated if any PML-N’s emotional supporter was there, he added.
He added that PTI chairman Imran Kham used people like tissue papers. Majid Khan brought him into the cricket team and he plotted against him at the first opportunity, he added. He used Jahangir Tarin and Aleem Khan and then pushed them under the bus, he added.
Also Read:‘Chor Chor’: Citizens chant slogans against Ahsan Iqbal
On July 8, a group of PTI supporters chanted slogans at Minister for Planning and Development Ahsan Iqbal at a renowned food outlet in Behra tehsil of Punjab’s Sargodha district.
Avoided legal action against hecklers due to women, children involvement: Ahsan Iqbal
PML-N leader Ahsan Iqbal has said that he avoided legal action against PTI supporters who heckled him at a local restaurant yesterday due to women and
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What current army core has acheived is remarkable
Enemy spent billions of dollars to acheive this and failed
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He is a certified chor, why is he getting angry in being called a chor.
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Ahsan Iqbal also turns out to be an Iqama holder in KSA
Ahsan Iqbal also turns out to be an Iqama holder in KSA
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Ahsan Iqbal, four others indicted in Narowal Sports City Complex corruption case
ISLAMABAD: PML-N leader Ahsan Iqbal, along with four others, has been indicted by an accountability court for their involvement in the Narowal Sports City Complex corruption case.A hearing for the...
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But tear gassing 70 year olds, picking up protestors, going into homes, and all the other measures are completely democratic?
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So you are equating physical violence with verbal disagreement and heckling?
Well done sir!
Having seen the same thing play out up close when I was in the US earlier during the US elections, the same extreme polarization is happening in Pakistan. "Drain the swamp" rhetoric comes to mind here.
In any case, people here and on SM are directly contributing to extreme hate, reductionism and binary fractionalization which is tearing Pakistan apart.
I would request before people start attacking this post, read the contents below and ponder instead of the tendency to post a knee-jerk, dismissive post as a rebuttal immediately.
The writer is a former ambassador to the US, UK & UN.
LISTEN TO ARTICLE1x1.2x1.5x
IN Pakistan’s deeply polarised environment, the political conversation has been reduced to a slanging match between political leaders who increasingly resort to provocative rhetoric. Partisanship is so intense that supporters of rival parties applaud such conduct by their leaders and revel in their displays of hurling bitter invective at opponents. The lack of civil discourse has become an unedifying feature of the country’s political landscape.
Two aspects of the political culture are not new, but have become more pronounced and pervasive today because of greater polarisation. One, excessive preoccupation of political leaders with maligning opponents and accusing them of every transgression or crime. The allegation is no longer that the other side is unfit to govern, but that it is guilty of nothing less than being unpatriotic or a tool of foreign powers. And two, the severity of language being used and the political rancour it reflects. Offensive remarks by party spokesmen now border on the crude and even vulgar, as exemplified at a recent presser by PTI’s Shahbaz Gill. Not to be outdone in this game, spokespersons of the ruling coalition have also been using unseemly language against the PTI leader.
Rarely has the public discourse plunged to this level — and the general election isn’t even near, as campaign season usually sees an escalation of intemperate rhetoric. Such is the animosity between political rivals, who act as if they are engaged in a terminal conflict, that saying anything and everything to vilify the other is regarded as fair game with nothing deemed off-limits.
Inflammatory statements that fail the truth test are frequently made with little regard for their implications. The no-holds-barred denigration of opponents has turned insults into a political weapon.
Read: Pakistan’s angry political culture
Of course, unbecoming conduct was witnessed in the past too, when political leaders traded wild allegations, often during election campaigns. But the uncontrolled language and norm-breaking behaviour on display today is unprecedented.
The angry and toxic environment this is creating is in turn giving rise to an unparalleled level of intolerance among followers of rival parties and further dividing the country.
Four major consequences follow.
First and foremost, this debases the political discourse and denudes it of focus on serious issues. There is little political debate on policy issues and challenges facing the country, much less on addressing them.
At a time when Pakistan’s problems need sober debate on how to solve them, personal attacks and name-calling hold sway. This obviates reasoned or informed discussion. What passes for political debate is dominated by invective, not argument. With unrestrained language becoming the norm rather than exception, this degrades the political conversation.
Read: Conduct unbecoming
Two, this toxic political culture makes the working of the political system near impossible. As the middle ground is eliminated by extreme positions held by political leaders, tolerance, compromise and mutual accommodation needed to make the democratic system work becomes elusive. With the ethic of war — to vanquish the ‘enemy’ — rather than the ethic of competition shaping political behaviour, this rules out efforts to engage rivals, much less show them respect. Rabid partisanship has made the political centre ground shrink, with no one making any effort to bridge or even manage differences.
Moreover, when both sides accuse each other of treachery or the most egregious crimes, it eliminates room for dialogue and even minimal cooperation in the political process. This exposes the political system to the risk of paralysis and dysfunctionality. What is lost is the obligation to work the political system in the public interest.
Boycotts, disruptive behaviour and shouting matches are hardly the way for public representatives to live up to their responsibilities. It is certainly not why their constituents have sent them to parliament to represent their interests.
This undermines democracy and puts the political system on a slippery slope to democratic erosion.
The third consequence is the kind of issue-less politics that emerges in this environment. Rather than focus their competition on public policy issues, political leaders prefer to demonise their opponents. This distracts them from articulating what they stand for and explaining their party programme. It is left to talk show hosts to tease out their stand on national issues, but even then their responses are directed more at berating opponents than explaining their party’s view. This environment is inimical to the generation of new ideas needed to deal with the country’s multiple challenges. It also leaves people with the impression that political leaders are either indifferent to serious issues or the party platforms of erstwhile political rivals have become indistinguishable — as power, not public purpose, drives them.
Editorial: Uncivilised politics
The inescapable impact of this on people is to feed the perception that political leaders are more interested in outdoing each other and unseating the government of the day than in issues of concern to them. Politics is then seen as little more than a power struggle among elites disconnected from the problems and aspirations of citizens.
Constantly squabbling leaders, accusing each other of sleaze and uncivil conduct, erode public trust. What people want instead is well known and reflected in a recent Gallup poll. This found that a decisive majority of people, 78 per cent, want political differences to be resolved by dialogue and not resort to agitational activity. When this doesn’t happen, public cynicism and disenchantment with both politicians and political institutions follow. This leaves democracy in disrepute.
The writer is a former ambassador to the US, UK & UN.
Eid Mubarak to all!
In any case, people here and on SM are directly contributing to extreme hate, reductionism and binary fractionalization which is tearing Pakistan apart.
I would request before people start attacking this post, read the contents below and ponder instead of the tendency to post a knee-jerk, dismissive post as a rebuttal immediately.
Uncivil politics
Maleeha Lodhi Published July 9, 2022 - Updated about 9 hours agoThe writer is a former ambassador to the US, UK & UN.
LISTEN TO ARTICLE1x1.2x1.5x
IN Pakistan’s deeply polarised environment, the political conversation has been reduced to a slanging match between political leaders who increasingly resort to provocative rhetoric. Partisanship is so intense that supporters of rival parties applaud such conduct by their leaders and revel in their displays of hurling bitter invective at opponents. The lack of civil discourse has become an unedifying feature of the country’s political landscape.
Two aspects of the political culture are not new, but have become more pronounced and pervasive today because of greater polarisation. One, excessive preoccupation of political leaders with maligning opponents and accusing them of every transgression or crime. The allegation is no longer that the other side is unfit to govern, but that it is guilty of nothing less than being unpatriotic or a tool of foreign powers. And two, the severity of language being used and the political rancour it reflects. Offensive remarks by party spokesmen now border on the crude and even vulgar, as exemplified at a recent presser by PTI’s Shahbaz Gill. Not to be outdone in this game, spokespersons of the ruling coalition have also been using unseemly language against the PTI leader.
Rarely has the public discourse plunged to this level — and the general election isn’t even near, as campaign season usually sees an escalation of intemperate rhetoric. Such is the animosity between political rivals, who act as if they are engaged in a terminal conflict, that saying anything and everything to vilify the other is regarded as fair game with nothing deemed off-limits.
Inflammatory statements that fail the truth test are frequently made with little regard for their implications. The no-holds-barred denigration of opponents has turned insults into a political weapon.
Read: Pakistan’s angry political culture
Of course, unbecoming conduct was witnessed in the past too, when political leaders traded wild allegations, often during election campaigns. But the uncontrolled language and norm-breaking behaviour on display today is unprecedented.
The angry and toxic environment this is creating is in turn giving rise to an unparalleled level of intolerance among followers of rival parties and further dividing the country.
The 24/7 broadcast media, especially television talk shows, play off combative politics and reinforce it by pitching political opponents against each other and encouraging noisy clashes. But it is social media that has magnified polarisation and provided a platform for scurrilous political content. Because party activists have anonymity on digital platforms such as Twitter, this minimises the risk of retribution. It is therefore easy for them to disseminate disinformation and unsubstantiated allegations against political foes. The social media has also enabled people seeking partisan sources of information to live in digital bubbles and shut their minds to views different from their own. This produces hyper partisanship and further deepens the political divide.
Four major consequences follow.
First and foremost, this debases the political discourse and denudes it of focus on serious issues. There is little political debate on policy issues and challenges facing the country, much less on addressing them.
At a time when Pakistan’s problems need sober debate on how to solve them, personal attacks and name-calling hold sway. This obviates reasoned or informed discussion. What passes for political debate is dominated by invective, not argument. With unrestrained language becoming the norm rather than exception, this degrades the political conversation.
Read: Conduct unbecoming
Two, this toxic political culture makes the working of the political system near impossible. As the middle ground is eliminated by extreme positions held by political leaders, tolerance, compromise and mutual accommodation needed to make the democratic system work becomes elusive. With the ethic of war — to vanquish the ‘enemy’ — rather than the ethic of competition shaping political behaviour, this rules out efforts to engage rivals, much less show them respect. Rabid partisanship has made the political centre ground shrink, with no one making any effort to bridge or even manage differences.
Moreover, when both sides accuse each other of treachery or the most egregious crimes, it eliminates room for dialogue and even minimal cooperation in the political process. This exposes the political system to the risk of paralysis and dysfunctionality. What is lost is the obligation to work the political system in the public interest.
Boycotts, disruptive behaviour and shouting matches are hardly the way for public representatives to live up to their responsibilities. It is certainly not why their constituents have sent them to parliament to represent their interests.
This undermines democracy and puts the political system on a slippery slope to democratic erosion.
The third consequence is the kind of issue-less politics that emerges in this environment. Rather than focus their competition on public policy issues, political leaders prefer to demonise their opponents. This distracts them from articulating what they stand for and explaining their party programme. It is left to talk show hosts to tease out their stand on national issues, but even then their responses are directed more at berating opponents than explaining their party’s view. This environment is inimical to the generation of new ideas needed to deal with the country’s multiple challenges. It also leaves people with the impression that political leaders are either indifferent to serious issues or the party platforms of erstwhile political rivals have become indistinguishable — as power, not public purpose, drives them.
Editorial: Uncivilised politics
The inescapable impact of this on people is to feed the perception that political leaders are more interested in outdoing each other and unseating the government of the day than in issues of concern to them. Politics is then seen as little more than a power struggle among elites disconnected from the problems and aspirations of citizens.
Constantly squabbling leaders, accusing each other of sleaze and uncivil conduct, erode public trust. What people want instead is well known and reflected in a recent Gallup poll. This found that a decisive majority of people, 78 per cent, want political differences to be resolved by dialogue and not resort to agitational activity. When this doesn’t happen, public cynicism and disenchantment with both politicians and political institutions follow. This leaves democracy in disrepute.
The writer is a former ambassador to the US, UK & UN.
Eid Mubarak to all!
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Oh dear
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At least he was eating in public... IK and other bigwigs of PTI would prefer to stay in KPK's CM / Governor house or in their fortified mansions to avoid facing public backlash. Also worth noting IK is so afraid of the public that he uses a helicopter to travel. How hypocrite can they get. They should look at themselves first lol.
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