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PAF suspends “Air Force Development Plan 2025,” says report

About Uncle Sam, I dont know but the Indian side went berserk the moment India tested those Nuclear Bombs in 1998. All the macho talk from across the border was also 1 of the factors that led to the eventual testing of Pakistani Nuclear Weapons.

Actually there is a very good chance that those comments were planned. Pakistan also testing its nuke was the best possible scenario for India otherwise we would have become pariah nation. I mean for some time we were sanctioned and what not but it turned out much easier compared to what it would have been had Pakistan not tested.

We also knew you had the bomb. Infact since atleast 1987 otherwise we would have invaded you and split you in half (again) right then. It was the Nukes that saved you that time.
 
You are the last person to talk about wet dreams.....at least the JF-17 is operational with squadron service.
Blabber away when your twenty year old wet dream patch turns dry.
No one cares about tejas. It's just for show and learning experience. Our main backbone fighters are other planes. But the future lifeline of PAF is the JF-17.
 
You are actually somewhat correct and ironically you do not even realize it in your sarcasm!

Musharraf gave NRO to the politicians but at the same time he gave 'YOU' the power to choose leaders that 'YOU' deemed fit to lead 'YOU'. It was 'YOU' who chose PPP, blaming Musharraf just because he gave you the freedom to choose your destiny is quite stupid.

actually 90% of time PAK ruled by military, When problem is started since inception, policies/decision which was made long time back are now responsible for this.

nothing can change in 5 years which has been done from past 40 yrs.
 
The military already got $6.2 billion out of the $33 billion budget last year. What more do they bloody want?

Drone shoot hotay nahi, modern banany ka shoke charra huwa hai.

36billion dollar budget, 5.6 billion defence budget
 
No one cares about tejas. It's just for show and learning experience. Our main backbone fighters are other planes. But the future lifeline of PAF is the JF-17.

Read the article again and my post: 77.....nowhere it's mentioned that there is any hindrance on purchase or production of new frames. !!
 
actually 90% of time PAK ruled by military, When problem is started since inception, policies/decision which was made long time back are now responsible for this.

nothing can change in 5 years which has been done from past 40 yrs.

This shows how good you are at maths. How come Pakistan was ruled by military 90% of its history. 32 out of 67 is not 90%.

No one cares about tejas. It's just for show and learning experience. Our main backbone fighters are other planes. But the future lifeline of PAF is the JF-17.

Check any Indian defense forum, then you will come to know how much Indians care about Tejas.
 
Pakistan has one great advantage,it can choose the time of conflict with india.It knows india won't attack without a major terrorist attack,and even then that attack would mostly be air raid.But ISI gets to control when to make major terror attack,so pakistan has plenty of time.When its economy is bad it simply won't make any trouble in the eastern front.
 
This is Biased article or a simple RUSE you can say to decept! Furthermore I think After 2007 we have got the Actual military deals that gave us some edge or a good inventory in PAF like Saab 2000, KJ200 , jf17 , Blk 52+, Spada 2000 , Alkhalid 2 development all were musharraf era plans but were in process even after 2007. And Block 2 is in production line atleast the body of aircraft has been in production for parts of it. We got IL76 tankers and these all are parts of PAF !

Having Dawn or any media reporter in pakistan publishing or posting any article/news I would think 100 times before believing them...

So guys just chill out ! just like we got article on that almost all spada 2000 were damaged or destroyed there is no confirmation cause I know people who have claimed to see Spada 2000 with antenna above fuselage flying and landing "rarely in kamra side"

its Simple a Deception Ruse !
 
The problem is not "no money" -- instead the problem is "No Economy", which of course means "No strategic Vision" -- of course you must not take the word of Liberal Fascists, in fact you must reject it --

The economy is everything.
The day we learn that is the day w start to see real progress.
 
Pakistan has one great advantage,it can choose the time of conflict with india.It knows india won't attack without a major terrorist attack,and even then that attack would mostly be air raid.But ISI gets to control when to make major terror attack,so pakistan has plenty of time.When its economy is bad it simply won't make any trouble in the eastern front.


So this is how u get so many likes and became brigadier grade member ?
 
What did i say wrong?Its common knowledge terror attacks are organized by part of ISI.Everyone knows that.Except pakistanis who know it but deny it for the sake of decorum.Its fine,everyone understands its a instrument of state policy.Otherwise why would there be a 'good taliban',what is death by thousand cuts?Who was sending orders from karachi via satellite phone during mumbai?
 
Drone strikes 'aamriyat' mei shuru zaroor hue thin but the 2 even more important factors are the number of strikes and the targets! Both were with the consent of the Military with the former being a measly 9 strikes in 5 years of Musharraf's rule and the later being high profile targets that would apparently either get away before PakMil could get to them or would cause massive retaliation on PakMil.

Apki apni selected Government ne kia kia drone strikes rokne ke liye???

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Bahi Sahib, hakumat nay to nahi bandookein aur missile uthaye huway, yeh sab to afwaj kay paas hai- Agar fauj amreeka kay samnay kaan paqarr kar murgha ban ghi hai sann 2004 say lay kar aaj tak aur ilaan kar diya hai kay wo amreeka say panga nahi lena chahti, to bechari hakumat kiya kar sakti hai?

Agar fauj amreeka say panga lay to un ki aulaadein amreeka parnay kay liye phir kaisay ja sakhein gi?

But anyway brother forget that and just simply please explain to me why when the first drone strike was carried out in Pakistan on Thursday June 17, 2004, our military was claiming it be a Pakistani military operation? What was all that about? Why did they lie?
 
What did i say wrong?Its common knowledge terror attacks are organized by part of ISI.Everyone knows that.Except pakistanis who know it but deny it for the sake of decorum.Its fine,everyone understands its a instrument of state policy.Otherwise why would there be a 'good taliban',what is death by thousand cuts?Who was sending orders from karachi via satellite phone during mumbai?

I always did wonder why when there are protest on Delhi streets, tension suddenly flares up at the borders.
Seems RAW has also been busy with some public diversion homework.
 
36billion dollar budget, 5.6 billion defence budget

Nope, it was definitely $33 billion last year as I did the calculations when the budget was released.

$18.8 billion went towards debt repayment.
$6.2 billion went towards the military.
$8 billion went towards Pakistan's awam.
 

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