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India's War Budget World's 3rd Biggest Despite High Poverty

India's modernisation needs are TOO big and too many

We need a lot of money

Hopefully the government can unearth all black money and use it for defence
 
India ranks better from HDI to literacy, quality of life index, education index, average years of schooling, internet penetration, Hunger Index etc. which says everything.

Dress the figures up any way you want the simple fact is India is a major world economy, Pakistan is not
India has 390 billion in forex Pakistan has 20 billion, India GDP is eight times the size of Pakistan, Indian per capital income is now larger than pakistans

Dude Mumbai Alone has bigger GDP than Pakistan, As of October 2015, Mumbai's GDP is $278 billion ..... Pakistan don't have a city like Mumbai... Even Islamabad or Karachi or Lahore can't compete with just Mumbai.....

You can't win when you are a fraction of Indian might.......
Can I request you not to PM me anymore please. You are nothing but a closet Ganga hiding under false flag and even of your are not,you are no better. I am the biggest critic of Pakistan and frankly after the attack on the Ahmadi community I am even disgusted and ashamed but I am not going to place Pakistan in the shadow of so called shining India.

Frankly it was our misfortune that the British came and integrated us to the Ganges and Deccan. What happened, happened but if you think India or your Mumbai is great you got to be kidding me. I would much prefer typical small town in the northern Pakistan then that humongous pile of detritus called Mumbai with it's planet shaming slums that even inspire Hollywood.

Of course India is on many indicators going to be ahead of Pakistan because of it's size - being nearly 7 times larger. But the fact is the numbers living in abject poverty is far greater in India. Leaving asides those cheap pressure groups with agenda like IFPR the reality for India is sobering. Poverty indicators are so easy to distort because it depends where you place the poverty bar. If you used UK's povert threshold 90% of Pakistan would be classed as poverty stricken. However using standard £1.90 as the minimum threshold gives us a easy way to campare poverty across countries - it is not idea but still is better then others. This below is World Banks data which is rather less subject to partiality then some private pressure group or think tank. The fact is India has far larger number of people living on less than $1.90 then Pakistan.

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This is a telling statistic. After this does it matter about bright lights,. Bollywood movies, pretty half clad girls swaaying their ample hips driving fancy cars. The flip side is Mumbai uis huge cesspit of defecation, detritus and people swimming in ocean of abject poverty. Please apply the % on 1.25 billion population of India to see the staggering figures.

It does not stop there, India has epic (no pun intended) numbers of people in slavery. Pakistan is also afflicted but the differance is India wins the gold medal for slavery. Pakistan on the other hand by capita fares lot better. So @EpiiC you can have your Mumbai along with it's epic poverty and slavery. I will stick with plain, simple Pakistan.

Slavery Inc > India http://www.theatlantic.com/news/archive/2016/05/where-the-worlds-slaves-live/484994/

I would though say Pakistan needs to fix it's education system although in KPK some great things are being done.
 
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Dude Mumbai Alone has bigger GDP than Pakistan, As of October 2015, Mumbai's GDP is $278 billion ..... Pakistan don't have a city like Mumbai... Even Islamabad or Karachi or Lahore can't compete with just Mumbai.....

You can't win when you are a fraction of Indian might.......

If Mumbai had a GDP that size then the GDP per capita of the rest of India is about $1,400 (less than Pakistan).
 
India ranks better from HDI to literacy, quality of life index, education index, average years of schooling, internet penetration, Hunger Index etc. which says everything.

Dress the figures up any way you want the simple fact is India is a major world economy, Pakistan is not
India has 390 billion in forex Pakistan has 20 billion, India GDP is eight times the size of Pakistan, Indian per capital income is now larger than pakistans

Dude Mumbai Alone has bigger GDP than Pakistan, As of October 2015, Mumbai's GDP is $278 billion ..... Pakistan don't have a city like Mumbai... Even Islamabad or Karachi or Lahore can't compete with just Mumbai.....

You can't win when you are a fraction of Indian might.......

So where in India are you from?
 
India ranks better from HDI to literacy, quality of life index, education index, average years of schooling, internet penetration, Hunger Index etc. which says everything.

Dress the figures up any way you want the simple fact is India is a major world economy, Pakistan is not
India has 390 billion in forex Pakistan has 20 billion, India GDP is eight times the size of Pakistan, Indian per capital income is now larger than pakistans

Dude Mumbai Alone has bigger GDP than Pakistan, As of October 2015, Mumbai's GDP is $278 billion ..... Pakistan don't have a city like Mumbai... Even Islamabad or Karachi or Lahore can't compete with just Mumbai.....

You can't win when you are a fraction of Indian might.......

Mumbai's economy is around 220 billion . Dont pull out stats from your behind . Mumbai is also the dirtiest city in the world something the relatively cleaner Pakistani cities can only dream off .

http://www.firstpost.com/mumbai/mumbai-voted-worlds-dirtiest-city-557491.html
 
If it's about standard of living, than PPP per capita can show the standard of living. PPP itself does not show the standard of living.
Yourself confused or confusing me?:confused:

India is world's cheapest country to live in alongwith currency de appreciation which further lowers nominal GDP per capita.
If in Europe, you can buy one thing with a coin, you.can have 4-5 in India. So, judgement on living standards in India in nominal terms isn't fair.

Okay, you don't wanna take only money in account for indicating standard, you can include HDI, IHDI, GHI, FSI, internet penetration, Education Indices (average years of schooling, literacy, University ranking) etc. etc.. That's enough to shut the guys up who call India poor even after being unable to conduct a proper census for counting population since 1980s, can't even calculate poverty properly.:P

relatively cleaner Pakistani cities can only dream off
Still, more than 45% of Pakistani urban population living in slums against our 24%?

Well well, Mumbai too has many faces, go through multimedia section. Mumbai has also something which you can't even dream off.
 
Mumbai's economy is around 220 billion . Dont pull out stats from your behind . Mumbai is also the dirtiest city in the world something the relatively cleaner Pakistani cities can only dream off .

http://www.firstpost.com/mumbai/mumbai-voted-worlds-dirtiest-city-557491.html

You dont seem that concerned with the Pakistani scholar pulling out stats from his behind at the very foundation of this retarded thread, like Indian defence spending being 3rd highest in the world etc. Such intellectual dishonesty seems to be accepted in pakistani nationalistic circles as just about every jingo in Pakistan sprinkes plenty of white lies in their "burnol analyses".

Pakistani flame white lies OK. Very low class mentality I must say.
 
Well well, Mumbai too has many faces, go through multimedia section. Mumbai has also something which you can't even dream off.

Islamabad , Lahore and Karachi are miles better than Mumbai which honestly will make congo look like switzerland .

I dont have to go through Lahore and see miles upon miles of poverty like Mumbai
 
Islamabad , Lahore and Karachi are miles better than Mumbai which honestly will make congo look like switzerland.
Designated! :facepalm:
I hope Pakistan also is able to have some basic infrastructure like Delhi.before comparing with Mumbai.
I dont have to go through Lahore and see miles upon miles of poverty like Mumbai
I can bet my money that you don't even have got to visit Lahore ever, leave alone Mumbai (father of modern Lahore was Ganga Ram, never mind, off topic).
Just by closing eyes over Lahore won't change reality. Stats say that half of Pakistani urban population lives in slums and not India's.
And hey, please, don't troll us over poverty at least before completing a proper census which doesn't leave more than 1/3rd of population unaccounted.

And here is to see miles upon Mumbai.:devil:
https://defence.pk/threads/growing-mumbai-the-city-of-dreams.371812/
 
Designated! :facepalm:
I hope Pakistan also is able to have some basic infrastructure like Delhi.before comparing with Mumbai.

I can bet my money that you don't even have got to visit Lahore ever, leave alone Mumbai (father of modern Lahore was Ganga Ram, never mind, off topic).
Just by closing eyes over Lahore won't change reality. Stats say that half of Pakistani urban population lives in slums and not India's.
And hey, please, don't troll us over poverty at least before completing a proper census which doesn't leave more than 1/3rd of population unaccounted.

And here is to see miles upon Mumbai.:devil:
https://defence.pk/threads/growing-mumbai-the-city-of-dreams.371812/

Basic infrastructure? Roads in Lahore and Islamabad are wider and better than any Indian city . Meanwhile next year orange line will be completed in Lahore on top already having BRT .


Not going to compare Islamabad because you dont have a city that compares well with how well planned , clean and green it is . Ask anyone worldwide which is the dirtiest country in the world and they will only tell you one name .

Going into stats game is fruitless because have done that to death with alot of Indian posters .
 
Yourself confused or confusing me?:confused:

India is world's cheapest country to live in alongwith currency de appreciation which further lowers nominal GDP per capita.
If in Europe, you can buy one thing with a coin, you.can have 4-5 in India. So, judgement on living standards in India in nominal terms isn't fair.

Okay, you don't wanna take only money in account for indicating standard, you can include HDI, IHDI, GHI, FSI, internet penetration, Education Indices (average years of schooling, literacy, University ranking) etc. etc.. That's enough to shut the guys up who call India poor even after being unable to conduct a proper census for counting population since 1980s, can't even calculate poverty properly.:P


Still, more than 45% of Pakistani urban population living in slums against our 24%?

Well well, Mumbai too has many faces, go through multimedia section. Mumbai has also something which you can't even dream off.

You can use PPP per capita as an indication of living standard. How is India by that measurement?
 
If Mumbai had a GDP that size then the GDP per capita of the rest of India is about $1,400 (less than Pakistan).

True, if we take out this city from India their GDP will be lower than $2Trillon...

So where in India are you from?
Now what made you think I am from India? Just because I said Mumbai has a very high GDP?

Mumbai's economy is around 220 billion . Dont pull out stats from your behind . Mumbai is also the dirtiest city in the world something the relatively cleaner Pakistani cities can only dream off .

http://www.firstpost.com/mumbai/mumbai-voted-worlds-dirtiest-city-557491.html

As of October 2015, Mumbai's GDP is $278 billion (from 2014). and its per-capita (PPP) income in 2009 was ₹486,000 (US$7,200), which is almost three times the national average. I am not pulling stats from behind but from Wikipedia....


Islamabad , Lahore and Karachi are miles better than Mumbai which honestly will make congo look like switzerland .


I dont have to go through Lahore and see miles upon miles of poverty like Mumbai


Islamabad might be the best City in this Ind-Pak region due to being newer and cleaner..... Islamabad also has higher literacy rates than both Delhi and Mumbai..... Lahore is slightly lower in literacy rating.....

Basic infrastructure? Roads in Lahore and Islamabad are wider and better than any Indian city . Meanwhile next year orange line will be completed in Lahore on top already having BRT .


Not going to compare Islamabad because you dont have a city that compares well with how well planned , clean and green it is . Ask anyone worldwide which is the dirtiest country in the world and they will only tell you one name .

Going into stats game is fruitless because have done that to death with alot of Indian posters .
Islamabad has been rated 2nd best or beautiful capital in the world....

Can I request you not to PM me anymore please. You are nothing but a closet Ganga hiding under false flag and even of your are not,you are no better. I am the biggest critic of Pakistan and frankly after the attack on the Ahmadi community I am even disgusted and ashamed but I am not going to place Pakistan in the shadow of so called shining India.

Frankly it was our misfortune that the British came and integrated us to the Ganges and Deccan. What happened, happened but if you think India or your Mumbai is great you got to be kidding me. I would much prefer typical small town in the northern Pakistan then that humongous pile of detritus called Mumbai with it's planet shaming slums that even inspire Hollywood.

Of course India is on many indicators going to be ahead of Pakistan because of it's size - being nearly 7 times larger. But the fact is the numbers living in abject poverty is far greater in India. Leaving asides those cheap pressure groups with agenda like IFPR the reality for India is sobering. Poverty indicators are so easy to distort because it depends where you place the poverty bar. If you used UK's povert threshold 90% of Pakistan would be classed as poverty stricken. However using standard £1.90 as the minimum threshold gives us a easy way to campare poverty across countries - it is not idea but still is better then others. This below is World Banks data which is rather less subject to partiality then some private pressure group or think tank. The fact is India has far larger number of people living on less than $1.90 then Pakistan.

W8hB5h4.png


This is a telling statistic. After this does it matter about bright lights,. Bollywood movies, pretty half clad girls swaaying their ample hips driving fancy cars. The flip side is Mumbai uis huge cesspit of defecation, detritus and people swimming in ocean of abject poverty. Please apply the % on 1.25 billion population of India to see the staggering figures.

It does not stop there, India has epic (no pun intended) numbers of people in slavery. Pakistan is also afflicted but the differance is India wins the gold medal for slavery. Pakistan on the other hand by capita fares lot better. So @EpiiC you can have your Mumbai along with it's epic poverty and slavery. I will stick with plain, simple Pakistan.

Slavery Inc > India http://www.theatlantic.com/news/archive/2016/05/where-the-worlds-slaves-live/484994/

I would though say Pakistan needs to fix it's education system although in KPK some great things are being done.

Hold on yo it's a fact that Mumbai has a very high GDP no city in Pak comes close to it in terms of GDP!! I only said it has higher gdp, Islamabad is more cleaner and greener and better literacy ..... But India does better in stats as well... By the way your claim of me being Indian and or 'closet Ganga' is totally unfounded .....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_literacy_rate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where-to-be-born_Index

http://hdr.undp.org/en/content/education-index

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Hunger_Index
 
True, if we take out this city from India their GDP will be lower than $2Trillon...


Now what made you think I am from India? Just because I said Mumbai has a very high GDP?



As of October 2015, Mumbai's GDP is $278 billion (from 2014). and its per-capita (PPP) income in 2009 was ₹486,000 (US$7,200), which is almost three times the national average. I am not pulling stats from behind but from Wikipedia....





https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_literacy_rate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where-to-be-born_Index

http://hdr.undp.org/en/content/education-index

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Hunger_Index

Yet wikipedia also says Mumbai accounts for 6% of Indias economy (around 140 billion in 2016)... Something tells me nationalist Indians have been at work on the page.
 
True, if we take out this city from India their GDP will be lower than $2Trillon...


Now what made you think I am from India? Just because I said Mumbai has a very high GDP?



As of October 2015, Mumbai's GDP is $278 billion (from 2014). and its per-capita (PPP) income in 2009 was ₹486,000 (US$7,200), which is almost three times the national average. I am not pulling stats from behind but from Wikipedia....





Islamabad might be the best City in this Ind-Pak region due to being newer and cleaner..... Islamabad also has higher literacy rates than both Delhi and Mumbai..... Lahore is slightly lower in literacy rating.....

Islamabad has been rated 2nd best or beautiful capital in the world....



Hold on yo it's a fact that Mumbai has a very high GDP no city in Pak comes close to it in terms of GDP!! I only said it has higher gdp, Islamabad is more cleaner and greener and better literacy ..... But India does better in stats as well... By the way your claim of me being Indian and or 'closet Ganga' is totally unfounded .....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_literacy_rate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where-to-be-born_Index

http://hdr.undp.org/en/content/education-index

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Hunger_Index

Wiki seriously ? Couldnt you have taken your figures from a reliable source ? I can go and make Afghanistans economy $500 billion in wiki . Entire Maharstra's economy is $289 billion .


http://statisticstimes.com/economy/comparing-indian-states-and-countries-by-gdp.php

As for rankings and stats

http://www.dawn.com/news/1246041

http://blogs.wsj.com/indiarealtime/2015/07/01/india-lags-behind-pakistan-nepal-on-sanitation/

http://www.thecitizen.in/index.php/OldNewsPage/?Id=6623

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...els-higher-than-Pakistans-says-UN-report.html

There are alot of them where you are behind .
 

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