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Duh!!

Seriously, there was no "idea of Pakistan" behind AIML electoral politics before 1940.

It's like even a Pakistani kindergartener has a more solid grip on their country's history than a supposedly "educated" false flagger from across the border pretending to be a Pakistani! :lol:

Even during The Cabinet Mission Plan in 1946 Jinnah was not fighting for a separate state/country but only separate electorate.

Congress leaders forced the creation of Pakistan.
 
The truth is, Punjabi Muslims often find they share more in common with a fellow Muslim living on the opposite side of the planet than with a Hindu or Sikh neighbor living just across the Radcliffe Line. And I am inclined to agree with them
This is not true in my experience. I have seen plenty of Pakistani Punjabis hanging out with Sikhs. Maybe people of Haryana are different but other Indians Punjabis are almost the same as Pakistani Punjabis.
 
This is not true in my experience. I have seen plenty of Pakistani Punjabis hanging out with Sikhs. Maybe people of Haryana are different but other Indians Punjabis are almost the same as Pakistani Punjabis.

Sikh hate Hindus and Love Muslims.
 
while Punjabi migration to Kashmir was always non-existent.

Gujjar Punjabis have been living in Kashmir valley from centuries...

These people are the Roma tribes of Kashmir... and oh in case you did not know even the Roma tribes in Europe have Punjab origins as well.



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Kashmiri muslims were peasants, the brahmin class hindu is completely different. Kashmiri muslims were dying of hunger and thats when their movement to punjab started in 18th century. In reality there are even older kashmiris in punjab. We know from Mughal era texts that officials used to go to Kashmir to buy fair brides. You people are daughter sellers along with empty stomach that are now slaves of hindutva regime that is raping and pillaging your so called educated lot. Because they made educated choice of joining hindu Nehru over Jinnah.
Punjab has a history of traitors. Who invited Mughals in Punjab and allowed them to establish a capital? Even today you people celebrate its history as if they were your own people. Not only you sold your women, you sold your land to them. There is a reason why many of you claim ancestry from other races. In the streets of Punjab you will find people who even have a Mughal surname. It is also written all over history books that Punjabis use to shower roses on foreign invaders on the banks of River Ravi.


Why half a million people from Punjab enlisted to fight for Britain in World War I​



Historically Kashmir was an independent state with its own Kings one that was ruled by even Kashmiri Muslims. Due to regional invasions including that of neighbouring Punjab, Kashmir was under the control of Doghras. Nehru btw was a Kashmiri Pandit. In any case, besides religion, there are no fundamental differences between Muslim and Hindu Kashmiris.

There was famine in Kashmir and some of them did migrate to Punjab. If there was no famine in Punjab, you can thank yours masters, the British for that, who developed the agriculture.


From British Colonization to the Green Revolution:

The colonial rulers transformed Punjab’s land into intensified systems of irrigation, which involved growing cash crops. In particular, during the formation of the famous Chenab colony, the Chenab river was transformed into a system of perennial canals (Barrier, 1967, p. 356). The British considered the Chenab colony its “model” colony, using it as a blueprint as they sought to transform other areas in Punjab. Overall, in the colony, six million acres of desert land were converted into systems of intensive irrigation (Talbot, 2012, p. 7). The British introduced cash crops, including wheat, tobacco, sugarcane, and cotton at the expense of traditional crops (Talbot, 2012, p. 5). By the end of the 1920s, Punjab produced a tenth of India’s total crop production and a third of its wheat; its per capita crop output increased by forty-five percent between 1891 and 1921 (Talbot, 2012, p. 5).

Wheat was an important cash crop because of its export value. In the Chenab, Jhelum, and Lower Bari colonies, wheat alone made up more than thirty-percent of all cultivated areas (Ali, 2014, p. 224). In other areas, it sometimes made up half of all cultivated land due to the
abundant supply of canal water, and commanded high prices since it was primarily grown as an export crop. New varieties of wheat were created in order to fulfill the needs of the British market; the English, under Forbes Watson, tested more than one thousand samples of Indian wheat (“Agrarian Conditions of Punjab,” p. 8). Traditional red wheat started to be replaced by white wheat, as the British favored the latter for bread and flour (Ali, 2014, p. 244).

The British encouraged farmers to cultivate another cash crop, cotton, to support their own textile market (Ali, 2014, p. 225). Although cotton was not as popular in the early years of colonization, from 1910 to 1940, the proportion of cotton increased by fifty percent in both the Jhelum and Chenab colony; in the Lower Doabi colony, cotton cultivation at times equaled the production of wheat (Ali, 2014, p. 225). Furthermore, the British Cotton Growing Association (BCGA) received a grant of 7,500 acres for the cultivation of cotton; the grant was the largest given to a metropolitan commercial organization in the colonies (Ali, 2014, p. 226). The BCGA bred seeds for positive traits, managing crops that were later exported to textile mills in Lancashire (Ali, 2014, p. 226): colonial innovation adapted American long staple cotton to Punjab’s soil and climate (Ali, 2014, p. 225). More than one thousand samples of Indian wheat were tested in England under Forbes Watson (“Agrarian Conditions of Punjab,” p. 8). The British strategically chose cash crops, such as cotton, based on their profitability as exports.


And oh btw the origin of the Indus River is in the Himalayas. Without that you would just be a desert.

Butts/khawjas are considered the lower caste even by the kahsmiri standards. The reason why upper caste Kashmiris don't marry their kids to -------, can ask any raja or shaikh-------. Besides, Nawaz and co played pretty well by keeping Pakistanis and punjabis at large preoccupied with the kahsmiri issue while engaging in business dealings with indian state etc .

Bhat, also spelled as Bhatt or Butt, is a Kashmiri Pandit surname found among the Brahmins of the Kashmir Valley, as well as Kashmiri who migrated to Punjab, a region now divided between India and the neighbouring Pakistan. Many such Kashmiri Muslims migrated to Punjab in the late 19th century/early 20th century due to the 1878 Kashmir drought, escaping discrimination by local rulers and seeking trade opportunities. The surname is now shared by both Kashmiri Hindus and Kashmiri Muslims who mostly retained their last names.
 
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Gujjar Punjabis have been living in Kashmir valley from centuries...



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Punjab has a history of traitors. Who invited Mughals in Punjab? Even today you people celebrate its history as if they were your own people. Not only you sold your women, you sold your land to them. It is written all over history books that Punjabis use to shower roses on foreign invaders on the banks of River Ravi.


Why half a million people from Punjab enlisted to fight for Britain in World War I​



Historically Kashmir was an independent state with its own Kings one that was ruled by even Kashmiri Muslims. Due to regional invasions including that of neighbouring Punjab, Kashmir was under the control of Doghras. Nehru btw was a Kashmiri Pandit. In any case, besides religion, there are no fundamental differences between Muslim and Hindu Kashmiris.

There was famine in Kashmir and some of them did migrate to Punjab. If there was no famine in Punjab, you can thank yours masters, the British for that, who developed the agriculture.


From British Colonization to the Green Revolution:

The colonial rulers transformed Punjab’s land into intensified systems of irrigation, which involved growing cash crops. In particular, during the formation of the famous Chenab colony, the Chenab river was transformed into a system of perennial canals (Barrier, 1967, p. 356). The British considered the Chenab colony its “model” colony, using it as a blueprint as they sought to transform other areas in Punjab. Overall, in the colony, six million acres of desert land were converted into systems of intensive irrigation (Talbot, 2012, p. 7). The British introduced cash crops, including wheat, tobacco, sugarcane, and cotton at the expense of traditional crops (Talbot, 2012, p. 5). By the end of the 1920s, Punjab produced a tenth of India’s total crop production and a third of its wheat; its per capita crop output increased by forty-five percent between 1891 and 1921 (Talbot, 2012, p. 5).

Wheat was an important cash crop because of its export value. In the Chenab, Jhelum, and Lower Bari colonies, wheat alone made up more than thirty-percent of all cultivated areas (Ali, 2014, p. 224). In other areas, it sometimes made up half of all cultivated land due to the
abundant supply of canal water, and commanded high prices since it was primarily grown as an export crop. New varieties of wheat were created in order to fulfill the needs of the British market; the English, under Forbes Watson, tested more than one thousand samples of Indian wheat (“Agrarian Conditions of Punjab,” p. 8). Traditional red wheat started to be replaced by white wheat, as the British favored the latter for bread and flour (Ali, 2014, p. 244).

The British encouraged farmers to cultivate another cash crop, cotton, to support their own textile market (Ali, 2014, p. 225). Although cotton was not as popular in the early years of colonization, from 1910 to 1940, the proportion of cotton increased by fifty percent in both the Jhelum and Chenab colony; in the Lower Doabi colony, cotton cultivation at times equaled the production of wheat (Ali, 2014, p. 225). Furthermore, the British Cotton Growing Association (BCGA) received a grant of 7,500 acres for the cultivation of cotton; the grant was the largest given to a metropolitan commercial organization in the colonies (Ali, 2014, p. 226). The BCGA bred seeds for positive traits, managing crops that were later exported to textile mills in Lancashire (Ali, 2014, p. 226): colonial innovation adapted American long staple cotton to Punjab’s soil and climate (Ali, 2014, p. 225). More than one thousand samples of Indian wheat were tested in England under Forbes Watson (“Agrarian Conditions of Punjab,” p. 8). The British strategically chose cash crops, such as cotton, based on their profitability as exports.


And oh btw the origin of the Indus River is in the Himalayas. Without that you would just be a desert.



Bhat, also spelled as Bhatt or Butt, is a Kashmiri Pandit surname found among the Brahmins of the Kashmir Valley, as well as Kashmiri who migrated to Punjab, a region now divided between India and the neighbouring Pakistan. Many such Kashmiri Muslims migrated to Punjab in the late 19th century/early 20th century due to the 1878 Kashmir drought, escaping discrimination by local rulers and seeking trade opportunities. The surname is now shared by both Kashmiri Hindus and Kashmiri Muslims who mostly retained their last names.


Dude you guys are too full of yourselves . I've got a butt friend who occasionally talks about how certain races are physically and intellectually stronger than the rest and then end up mentioning kashmiris while another one who happens to be a raja kashmiri target other kashmiri castes with reference to their lower social standing including buts .
 
Butts/khawjas are considered the lower caste even by the kahsmiri standards. The reason why upper caste Kashmiris don't marry their kids to -------, can ask any raja or shaikh-------. Besides, Nawaz and co played pretty well by keeping Pakistanis and punjabis at large preoccupied with the kahsmiri issue while engaging in business dealings with indian state etc .
Dilion ke raja @Mentee bai butt se shade karte Kiya?
 
Nae , vaadoo baari C yar :lol:

*Disclaimer, vaadoo doesn't mean she has a loose character .
Sai keta jee ve kam keta. unse pata se mentee heera hega dasti marketu ghaib ho jasi
 
How is saving Punjabi language and culture a threat to Pakistan?

It's sad to see that the only Punjabi majority country in the world actively crushes it's own roots and imports/promotes bhaiya language and culture as something superior.

Weaklings.
They link Punjabi Nationalism and linguistic pride with an imagined threat and hatred i.e. towards the Pashtuns and the Afghans. I am not against Punjabi language but creating hatred with communities who have been living together for centuries for political gain is wrong.
 

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