Reuters report exposes Indian claims of major destruction

[Solomon2]

What are you supposed to do on bomb sites??? Let everyone walk everywhere

Agreed.

Stop fabricating lies -

Not fabricating a thing. I'm not particularly fond of this BBC article - it's vague as to what "the area" is, which is rather sloppy.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

We will respond accordingly but we have to deal with indian propaganda for the time being.

If 700K IA troops remaining bogged down by <1K Mujahidin inside the IOK, with full land/air connection with the mainland India, for a good #of decades isn't a response in "constant motion" then I don't know what a response can be????

It is not that easy. Our borders are next to each other. It doesn’t take long to infiltrate airspace. It is a matter of minutes and probably even seconds.

I agree this is a lapse, but one that cannot be prevented that easily.

There is only one effective solution to counter airspace violations so close to each other and that is to arm the vulnerable border areas with anti-missile systems. Anti-missile systems can engage in a matter of split seconds. Fighters cannot. Especially if they are not airborne or in immediate vicinity. It takes time before an airborne fighter is informed and reaches the place of violation. It takes even longer for a grounded fighter to reach the spot.



Stop fabricating lies stupid Zionist.

And, EW systems like ASELSAN KORAL, which can effectively jam and deceive enemy signals including communications!!!

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

India released pic of camp before attack! all Pak journo/keyboard warriors needs to do is go to the location and publish video of still standing structure!!

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/iaf...ned-ammo-storage-1999652?pfrom=home-topscroll

The alleged pictures could be from anywhere. What's needed to prove Indian claims is evidence of a destroyed structure.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

More reporting indicating no damage as claimed by the Indians:

Witnesses and local journalists told Al Jazeera that the Indian munitions appeared to strike a mostly uninhabited forest near the mountain village of Jaba.

"The payload was dropped near the forest in Batrasi, it is totally uninhabited," said Khalid Chaudhry, a local journalist. Two other journalists at the scene corroborated that version of events.

The Reuters news agency quoted a local villager as saying he heard four loud bangs, but that damage was limited to trees and one house.

Local residents told Al Jazeera the area was once home to a JeM training camp, but that it had been shut "years ago". They spoke on condition of anonymity, given the sensitivity of the subject.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019...dian-air-raids-territory-190226162648237.html​

 

[KhalaiMakhlooq]

There are four different things you need to think about in a situation such as this one.

1. Given the distance from the LOC, a competently designed and run mission profile by a low flying aircraft packet can enter PK undetected, use the terrain in its advantage, release weapons and get back over the LOC in something like 5 minutes. Even less possibly.

2. The defensive force can react to such a mission after it detects the packet. Given the distances and the terrain involved, this may have or have not happened by the time the planes were back in IK.

3. Detecting the force is one thing. Intercepting it is another all-together. Again, given the approximate time the packet stayed inside PK, it is prudent to assume that the margins were very tight for any defending force.

4. Even if the force was intercepted, you also need a clear RoI doctrine applicable at the time of said interception. This may or may have not been in place. If the defending force needed high command authorization to dispatch weapons and the outstanding RoI was to warn first, it is possible that the attacking force was well over the LOC when said authorization could have arrived.

great advice, but that now how Pakistan thinks. Pakistan waits for chaos and then uses its sixth sense to re order out of chaos, creating an outcome for its favour. It doesn't care about others perceptions and measures of the outcome, just that it is satisfied that it is acceptable to itself, and in the process thrives, raising its state from one level to the next. Pakistan will never have a logical order like others, no matter how good that may be, as per your advice.

 

[SQ8]

so... real question.. how do you hide 350 bodies?

They were already in a vegatative state.

 

[KhalaiMakhlooq]

great advice, but that now how Pakistan thinks. Pakistan waits for chaos and then uses its sixth sense to re order out of chaos, creating an outcome for its favour. It doesn't care about others perceptions and measures of the outcome, just that it is satisfied that it is acceptable to itself, and in the process thrives, raising its state from one level to the next. Pakistan will never have a logical order like others, no matter how good that may be, as per your advice.

Pakistan should have taken full advantage of the moment of chaos. This was denied and now IK's head is on the line.

We should have bounced, rebounded and aggressively attacked with a multitude of forces, instantly penetrating the core of the enemy force. IK's fault for the loss. An insult.

We operate like non-humans, thats why you couldn't defeat the Taliban. Unfortunately traitors let us down.

Now the effort required for us to draw up an attack momentum is hard. The energy jump is wasteful. Shame on us.

Every second of time delay is stupidity. The only other option is full blown, unpredictable total war. You forced our hands.

Khalai Makhlooq

 

[graphican]

So now instead of the embarrassing situation of an incursion into air space despite claims on ‘ not being surprised ‘ , the emphasis shifts to ‘ See ! I didn’t get hurt !’ ?

You didn't destroy nothing, you've got no evidence, no photo, no footage, no video, no geographic location where you dropped bombs - and Indian pilot committed suicide.

Who's the loosing side? And Pakistan is yet to inflict damage to India ... India is a loser from every side.

 

[KhalaiMakhlooq]

And thats exactly what we plan. annihilation.

One day I hope you wake up to reality of war. Its the only certainty. You cannot delay it. It just hurts more for you

The funniest thing for us, is that you cant even identify the enemy, never mind detect them.

don't believe me? ask the top brass. we live forever.

give us the head of IK, now

or put a bullet in my head and watch me morph back to life in front of your eyes.... forever.

bow to the true king.

 

[untitled]

And when we gonna learn that in war nothing is illegal.

Not a big fan of that phrase. It may look good in artistic works of prose and poetry but in reality it just doesn't work.

You do realize that phrase "All is fair in love and war" actually legalizes all sorts of crimes amidst a conflict

 

[maverick1977]

When an enemy plane violates your airspace, you warn and then scramble your jets and then shoot down the plane. That is what most countries do.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1100239081236242433

Loo loo, u don’t know shit

 

[rott]

You didn't destroy nothing, you've got no evidence, no photo, no footage, no video, no geographic location where you dropped bombs - and Indian pilot committed suicide.

Who's the loosing side? And Pakistan is yet to inflict damage to India ... India is a loser from every side.

Hey graphican, any thoughts on how Pakistan will respond? Just curious.

 

[third eye]

Who's the loosing side?

This was not a winner - loser situation

 

[graphican]

Hey graphican, any thoughts on how Pakistan will respond? Just curious.

I have few ideas but won't share them here. You got to wait.

 

[jetray]

I dont know why most ppl talk about the physical damage, the very idea was to to target the deep state not the civilian govt in pakistan.


The air raid has achieved its result of putting the military boys on backfoot. Any big loss of civilian lives would have made Imran Khans life difficult. Now the the military in pakistan has to demonstrate they can strike back, not doing so would decrease their influence & power on civilian govt. This raid has just reinforced Imran khans position and at the same time satisfying the for retaliation requirement for the pulwama episode.