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US HR Watch urges Indian govt to probe killings along Bangladesh border

well nothing wrong in probing the killings....However what makes me sick is the hypocracy of these HR organizations..... I hope they are as much adamant about the human rights violations that happen in various US actions around the globe...Anyhow two wrongs don't make it right...New Delhi should do whatever she can to pacify these allegations and if there is any wrong doing culprits should be punished.....
 
The report, titled 'Trigger Happy: Excessive Use of Force by Indian Troops at the Bangladesh Border', said: "Since both Indians and Bangladeshis have fallen prey to this excessive use of force, both governments need to open a joint independent investigation to turn the situation around."

I agree with the above statement.
 
bro dont u know that they never use water after pooh-pooh lol

cmon now, we have all seen slumdog millionaire. We all know pretty much how life works there.

Look it won't be pretty if I share the urban legends about Bangladeshis we have in Calcutta, will it? ;)

Let's get back to the topic.
 
well nothing wrong in probing the killings....However what makes me sick is the hypocracy of these HR organizations..... I hope they are as much adamant about the human rights violations that happen in various US actions around the globe...Anyhow two wrongs don't make it right...New Delhi should do whatever she can to pacify these allegations and if there is any wrong doing culprits should be punished.....

When HR organizations and the western media print stuff negative about Bangladesh it is fine but when it is about India they are all slanted and biased. What I want to know is will the Indian government act to curb the abuses by the BSF? If not then Bangladeshis on the border should be armed and if attacked by BSF thugs the villagers should shoot. That would quickly put an end to BSF atrocities.
 
from HR reports to toilets.......that too within 19 posts .
good job bangladeshi trollers
 
Its better that such a probe is done so that for once and all things and doubts get cleared and mistrust removed. The concerned party if found guilty should be punished according to the rules
 
Do you have one in your home? :lol: It seems not! :no:

Its funny that you are from BD and talking about India. Don't you think that is shameful for you?

Please be careful what you say about BD. It is not right to brag and make false propaganda about the sanitary condition of your big country India. See a recent foreign press report below to know about your country's sanitation:

India's dirty big mess exposed to the public | The Australian

India's dirty big mess exposed to the public Bruce Loudon From: The Australian September 25, 2010 12:00AM
DECADES of progress have failed to bring basic sanitation to more than half the population.

IT is a country whose teeming millions have to be paid in an effort to persuade them to spend a penny in a toilet rather than defecate in public.

India is where human waste, discharged along the vast, 65,000km rail network, corrodes the tracks to such an extent the rails have to be replaced every 24 months instead of having a normal 30-year lifespan. This is the human waste left by the 20 million passengers carried each day by Indian Railways.

India is where staggering numbers tell a story of squalor that lies behind so much of the controversy and apprehension surrounding next month's Commonwealth Games.

More than six decades after India won its freedom from British colonial rule, 55 per cent of its people - by one count 638 million - do not have access to a toilet of any kind and defecate in the open.

Paradoxically, more people have access to mobile phones in India than to basic sanitation. A recent estimate suggested about 366 million people have access to sanitation while there are about 600 million mobile phones in service in the emerging economy.

"It is a tragic irony to think that in India, a country now wealthy enough that roughly half of the people own phones, about half cannot afford the basic necessity and dignity of a toilet," a UN report has stated.

It is hardly surprising that India's Environment and Forests Minister Jairam Ramesh has said: "If there is a Nobel prize for dirt and *****, India will win it, no doubt." He is right.

Outside of the glitz of the sumptuous hotels where many tourists stay, the reality is that despite the great strides India has achieved in some areas, hygiene standards in India remain abysmal. The notorious malady known as "Delhi belly" is rampant.

Indians have been let down severely by successive governments since independence. The sort of mindset that has allowed ***** to spoil Commonwealth Games preparations is testament to that failure.

N. R. Narayana Murthy, an eminent Indian and founder of Infosys Technologies, has summed up that failure thus: "The enigma of India is that our progress in higher education and science and technology has not been sufficient to take 350 million Indians out of illiteracy. It is difficult to imagine that 318 million people in the country do not have access to safe drinking water and 250 million people do not have access to basic medical care. Why should 630 million people not have access to acceptable sanitation facilities?"

He goes on: "When you see world-class supermarkets and food chains in our towns, and when our urban youngsters gloat over the choice of toppings on their pizzas, why should 51 per cent of the children in the country be undernourished? When India is among the largest producers of engineers and scientists in the world, why should 52 per cent of the primary schools have only one teacher for every two classes?

"Our corporate leaders splurge money on mansions, yachts and planes, and our urban youth revel in their latest sports shoes. Why should 300 million Indians live on hardly 545 rupees [$12] a month, barely sufficient to manage two meals a day, with little or no money left for schooling, clothes, shelter and medicine?"

Why, indeed. And why, as diplomat, politician and writer Sashi Tharoor asks in his book From Midnight to Millennium and Beyond, is there such an "astonishing disregard for public sanitation" in a country that has otherwise made such remarkable strides in so many areas.

"It is common to find sumptuous luxury apartments in buildings that are ******, ******* and stained, whose common areas, walls and staircases have not been cleaned in generations. Each apartment owner is proud of his own immediate habitat but is unwilling to incur responsibility or expense for the areas shared with others, even in the same building.

"This attitude is also visible in the lack of a civic culture in both rural and urban India, which leaves public spaces dirty and garbage-strewn, streets potholed and neglected, civic amenities vandalised or not functioning. The Indian wades through dirt and *****, past open sewers and fly-specked waste, to an immaculate home where he proudly bathes twice a day."

Some Indians, that is. Those in Tharoor's well-heeled circle of the wealthy elite.

Mostly, however, they're in that hapless 55 per cent who have not even the most basic toilet facilities. They include the labourers at the Delhi Games sites who have made such middens of the new toilets, unused to such facilities and uncaring about how they treat them.

Eight of my long years as a foreign correspondent have been spent in India, recently living in the heart of the up-market Lutyens district of central New Delhi, alongside former Raj bungalows worth $40 million.

Central to this area are the famed Lodhi Gardens, a green haven that is to Delhi what Hyde Park is to London or Centennial Park to Sydney, a refuge from the teeming city beyond its walls.

But those walls tell the sad story of India's abysmal standards of public hygiene. They are constantly used as urinals by streams of Indians and the stench is overwhelming. New toilets installed by the Delhi Municipal Corporation are ignored. Despite the astronomical value of the houses in the areas, laneways are piled high with rubbish over which legions of mangy pye-dogs do battle.

It's bewildering. One of the neighbours while I was there was the head of a global telecom, a billionaire on the Forbes rich list. His luxurious home was worth many millions yet the laneway outside was a rubbish tip.

It's a weird mindset, one that officials in some parts of India have tried to challenge with little success. In Tamil Nadu state impoverished locals have been paid under a novel plan that aims to persuade them to stop defecating in public and use toilets.

Then there's the story of the railways and the human waste that pours on to its tracks each day from passengers either using "open-discharge" toilets or simply defecating openly.

Ironically, Delhi was the setting a couple of years ago of the World Toilet Summit when 40 countries met to discuss how best to bring low-cost, environmentally safe toilets to people in the developing world.

The technology is easy. What's lacking is a change in the sort of attitude that led a top Commonwealth Games official, Lalit Bhanot, to say defensively this week: "Everyone has different standards about cleanliness. The Westerners have different standards, we have different standards. These rooms [in the Games village] are clean to both you and us. However, it may not appear so to some others. They want certain standards in hygiene and cleanliness which may differ from our perception."

There are suggestions Indians believe in the inevitability of their hapless fate and have a couldn't-care-less attitude to life. "Worrying about where they pee and whether it offends people is hardly high on their list of priorities," a newspaper editor says.

But it may be more a consequence of decades of deprivation, of being locked in a seemingly interminable downward spiral from which so many can see no escape.
 
But it may be more a consequence of decades of deprivation, of being locked in a seemingly interminable downward spiral from which so many can see no escape.[/QUOTE]

Yes, at a certain point people lose all hope and self respect and are fine with crapping in public.There exist two problems, inability of Govt to provide sanitation and of the public to use these appropriately.

Back to killing on border, the US HR report starts by saying both sides have done it but do not go on and describe the other side of the story. Its funny US HR is so involved in this when after a long time Indo-Bangla relations are on the upswing.

Someone doesnt want this relationship to grow better..me thinks.

Last but not the least, if 900 people have died then its 900 people too many.Ive heard murmurs of a problem of refugees from Bangladesh.Dont have enough knowledge of this subject to make conclusions.
 
Do you have one in your home? :lol: It seems not! :no:

Its funny that you are from BD and talking about India. Don't you think that is shameful for you?

Bro...i dont think fallstuff has posted with a negative intention...i guess all he had to say is that these type of threads lead us no where :)
 
Please be careful what you say about BD. It is not right to brag and make false propaganda about the sanitary condition of your big country India. See a recent foreign press report below to know about your country's sanitation:

You did a big mistake by comparing BD with India. There is question of sanitation if people believe in sanitation but is there really any sanitation in BD???? Don't you know that your human development index is the poorest in the region? You have the lowest per capita income! You even don't have a car company! With what face you talk about India? When you take aid, soft loans from us don't talk about us!

When your 10 million people took refugee during 71 war we not only provided them shelter and food but sanitation as well.

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Bro...i dont think fallstuff has posted with a negative intention...i guess all he had to say is that these type of threads lead us no where :)

Do you think they have anything more than this to discuss? :lol:
 
900 civilians in a decade isn't a small number by any standards. Lets form a JAC with BD and try and find a solution. Fencing may be an option but then I read somewhere that BD is not to keen on it.
 
You did a big mistake by comparing BD with India. There is question of sanitation if people believe in sanitation but is there really any sanitation in BD???? Don't you know that your human development index is the poorest in the region? You have the lowest per capita income! You even don't have a car company! With what face you talk about India? When you take aid, soft loans from us don't talk about us!

When your 10 million people took refugee during 71 war we not only provided them shelter and food but sanitation as well.

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Do you think they have anything more than this to discuss? :lol:

seems like you are reading too much Talibani newspaper sitting in Afghanistan. Good luck
 

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