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PA ORBAT - Updated

11 Corps (HQ Peshawar):
  • 7 Infantry Division - Peshawar
  • 9 Infantry Division - Kohat
  • 104 AD Brigade - Peshawar
  • Corps Artillery Brigade
10 Corps (HQ Rawalpindi):
  • FCNA - Gilgit (Mountain Infantry)
  • 12 Infantry Division - Murree (Mountain Infantry)
  • 23 Infantry Division - Jhelum
  • Corps Artillery Brigade
Reserve 10 Corps:
  • 34 Light Infantry Division (Special Security Division) - Rawalpindi
  • 111 Independent Infantry Brigade Group - Rawalpindi
30 Corps (HQ Gujranwala; subordinate to Central Command, Kharian):
  • 2 Artillery Division - Gujranwala
  • 8 Infantry Division - Sialkot
  • 15 Infantry Division - Sialkot
  • 54 Independent Infantry Brigade Group - Sialkot
  • Corps Artillery Brigade
Reserve 30 Corps:
  • 19 IABG - Gujranwala
  • 30 Independent Infantry Brigade Group - Lahore
1 Strike Corps (HQ Mangla; subordinate to Central Command, Kharian):
  • 6 Armoured Division - Gujranwala
  • 17 Infantry Division - Kharian
  • 19 Infantry Division - Mangla
  • 37 Infantry Division - Kharian
  • 8 IABG - Kharian
  • 101 AD Brigade - Mangla
  • Corps Artillery Brigade
4 Corps (HQ Lahore; subordinate to Central Command, Kharian):
  • 10 Infantry Division - Lahore
  • 11 Infantry Division - Lahore
  • 212 Independent Infantry Brigade Group - Chunian
  • 4 AD Brigade - Lahore
  • Corps Artillery Brigade
Reserve 4 Corps:
  • 3 IABG - Chunian
12 Corps (HQ Quetta; subordinate to Southern Command, Quetta):
  • 33 Infantry Division - Quetta
  • 41 Infantry Division - Quetta
  • 109 AD Brigade - Quetta
  • Corps Artillery Brigade
31 Corps (HQ Bahawalpur; subordinate to Southern Command, Quetta):
  • 14 Infantry Division - Okara
  • 35 Infantry Division - Bahawalpur
  • 101 Independent Infantry Brigade Group - Bahawalpur
  • 105 AD Brigade - Mailsi
  • Corps Artillery Brigade
Reserve 31 Corps:
  • HQ 26 Mechanized Division - Bahawalpur (commands 10 IABG - Bahawalpur, 14 IABG - Bahawalpur and 44 IMBG - Bahawalpur)
2 Strike Corps (HQ Multan; subordinate to Southern Command, Quetta):
  • 1 Armoured Division - Multan
  • 40 Infantry Division - Okara
  • 42 IABG - Multan
  • 102 AD Brigade - Multan
  • Corps Artillery Brigade
5 Corps (HQ Karachi; subordinate to Southern Command, Quetta):
  • 16 Infantry Division - Pano Aqil
  • 18 Infantry Division - Hyderabad
  • 21 Artillery Division - Pano Aqil
  • Corps Artillery Brigade
Reserve 5 Corps:
  • HQ 25 Mechanized Division - Malir (commands 2 IABG - Malir, 12 IABG - Malir and 330 IABG - Malir)
  • 31 Independent Infantry Brigade Group - Karachi

Army Air Defence Command (HQ Rawalpindi; Corps-equivalent):
  • 3 AD Division - Sargodha
  • 4 AD Division - Malir

NOTE:
  • Both Infantry Divisions of 11 Corps heavily involved in COIN, op HQ's established elsewhere.

@Joe Shearer @Nilgiri @Signalian
 
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Gryphon said:
PA ORBAT - Updated

11 Corps (HQ Peshawar):
  • 7 Infantry Division - Peshawar
  • 9 Infantry Division - Kohat
  • 104 AD Brigade - Peshawar
  • Corps Artillery Brigade
10 Corps (HQ Rawalpindi):
  • FCNA - Gilgit (Mountain Infantry)
  • 12 Infantry Division - Murree (Mountain Infantry)
  • 23 Infantry Division - Jhelum
  • Corps Artillery Brigade
Reserve 10 Corps:
  • 34 Light Infantry Division (Special Security Division) - Rawalpindi
  • 111 Independent Infantry Brigade Group - Rawalpindi
30 Corps (HQ Gujranwala; subordinate to Central Command, Kharian):
  • 2 Artillery Division - Gujranwala
  • 8 Infantry Division - Sialkot
  • 15 Infantry Division - Sialkot
  • 54 Independent Infantry Brigade Group - Sialkot
  • Corps Artillery Brigade
Reserve 30 Corps:
  • 19 IABG - Gujranwala
  • 30 Independent Infantry Brigade Group - Lahore
1 Strike Corps (HQ Mangla; subordinate to Central Command, Kharian):
  • 6 Armoured Division - Gujranwala
  • 17 Infantry Division - Kharian
  • 19 Infantry Division - Mangla
  • 37 Infantry Division - Kharian
  • 8 IABG - Kharian
  • 101 AD Brigade - Mangla
  • Corps Artillery Brigade
4 Corps (HQ Lahore; subordinate to Central Command, Kharian):
  • 10 Infantry Division - Lahore
  • 11 Infantry Division - Lahore
  • 212 Independent Infantry Brigade Group - Chunian
  • 4 AD Brigade - Lahore
  • Corps Artillery Brigade
Reserve 4 Corps:
  • 3 IABG - Chunian
12 Corps (HQ Quetta; subordinate to Southern Command, Quetta):
  • 33 Infantry Division - Quetta
  • 41 Infantry Division - Quetta
  • 109 AD Brigade - Quetta
  • Corps Artillery Brigade
31 Corps (HQ Bahawalpur; subordinate to Southern Command, Quetta):
  • 14 Infantry Division - Okara
  • 35 Infantry Division - Bahawalpur
  • 101 Independent Infantry Brigade Group - Bahawalpur
  • 105 AD Brigade - Mailsi
  • Corps Artillery Brigade
Reserve 31 Corps:
  • HQ 26 Mechanized Division - Bahawalpur (commands 10 IABG - Bahawalpur, 14 IABG - Bahawalpur and 44 IMBG - Bahawalpur)
2 Strike Corps (HQ Multan; subordinate to Southern Command, Quetta):
  • 1 Armoured Division - Multan
  • 40 Infantry Division - Okara
  • 42 IABG - Multan
  • 102 AD Brigade - Multan
  • Corps Artillery Brigade
5 Corps (HQ Karachi; subordinate to Southern Command, Quetta):
  • 16 Infantry Division - Pano Aqil
  • 18 Infantry Division - Hyderabad
  • 21 Artillery Division - Pano Aqil
  • Corps Artillery Brigade
Reserve 5 Corps:
  • HQ 25 Mechanized Division - Malir (commands 2 IABG - Malir, 12 IABG - Malir and 330 IABG - Malir)
  • 31 Independent Infantry Brigade Group - Karachi

Army Air Defence Command (HQ Rawalpindi; Corps-equivalent):
  • 3 AD Division - Sargodha
  • 4 AD Division - Malir

NOTE:
  • Both Infantry Divisions of 11 Corps heavily involved in COIN, op HQ's established elsewhere.

@Joe Shearer @Nilgiri @Signalian
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OK thanks buddy, will update as soon I got time to map.
 
Nilgiri said:
OK thanks buddy, will update as soon I got time to map.
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He granted your wish :-)

Joe Shearer said:
I noticed that, trying to reconstruct events in that conflict, and in 1965, and got thoroughly muddled. Why is that, @Signalian?
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Command level set up was not efficient. Things don't go always as planned. Planning at GHQ level went awry since Corps HQ were missing. Its difficult to command Divisions from GHQ. In the end, ad hoc formations were made out of existing formations. Commanders should be with troops to lead them. Corps HQ/Div HQ/Bde HQ move forward as the troops make progress. Now the command levels have further improved by making zones like northern central, southern etc.
 
@Signalian @Gryphon @Joe Shearer , please check the orbat on discord when u got a chance.

I will then post it here. I think northern theatre is of most relevance to this thread anyway, but I will also produce the updated southern theatre and master map etc a bit later depending on interest.
 
Nilgiri said:
@Signalian @Gryphon @Joe Shearer , please check the orbat on discord when u got a chance.

I will then post it here. I think northern theatre is of most relevance to this thread anyway, but I will also produce the updated southern theatre and master map etc a bit later depending on interest.
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FCNA has 4 Bde's:
1. 28 Bde
2. 62 Bde
3. 80 Bde
4. 323 Bde

Gryphon can confirm.
FCNA Ops area looks deserted on the mountain in the north west side of Kashmir.

on your map in discord
 
Signalian said:
FCNA has 4 Bde's:
1. 28 Bde
2. 62 Bde
3. 80 Bde
4. 323 Bde

Gryphon can confirm.
FCNA Ops area looks deserted on the mountain in the north west side of Kashmir.

on your map in discord
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Well I put it as division....we can do another variant (later) where we split all the divisions into their brigades....but things will get crowded in other parts of map. Maybe particular zones with more details we can do that kind of thing.

Let's just have understanding for now that Divisions have brigades under them....the brigades I did highlight have some individual purpose to them fairly separate/independent of the divisions around them etc (i.e IABG, IIBG, arty bde, aad bde etc).

Right now I just need to hear from Joe or someone from our end as to where to even go from here on what we want to project/analyse.
 
Nilgiri said:
Well I put it as division....we can do another variant (later) where we split all the divisions into their brigades....but things will get crowded in other parts of map. Maybe particular zones with more details we can do that kind of thing.

Let's just have understanding for now that Divisions have brigades under them....the brigades I did highlight have some individual purpose to them fairly separate/independent of the divisions around them etc (i.e IABG, IIBG, arty bde, aad bde etc).

Right now I just need to hear from Joe or someone from our end as to where to even go from here on what we want to project/analyse.
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Thats alright.
PA is heavily armed at south of LOC, moving north the deployments become sparse, terrain becomes difficult.

plus there is paramilitary units attached in FCNA just like NG units in 12 Inf Div
 
post 246.
28 Brigade was attached later, FCNA has 3 bde's.
 
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