What's new

Turkey may abandon EU membership for SCO membership

Muji.Iqbal

SENIOR MEMBER
Joined
Apr 19, 2023
Messages
2,218
Reaction score
-3
Country
Pakistan
Location
Canada
1689179965764.png

1689180043301.png

News|Recep Tayyip Erdogan

Can the SCO be Turkey’s alternative to the West?​

Erdogan suggests Turkey will seek full membership of the Russia and China-led Shanghai Cooperation Organisation amid strained ties with the West.

Russian President Vladimir Putin and Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan shake hands

Erdogan and Putin shake hands during a meeting on the sidelines of the SCO summit in Uzbekistan on September 16 [Alexander Demyanchuk/Sputnik via Reuters]
By Umut Uras
Published On 21 Sep 202221 Sep 2022

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has expressed his NATO-member country’s intention to become a member of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO), suggesting Ankara is seeking alternatives to its problematic ties with the West.
Erdogan, who made the remarks after attending last week’s SCO summit in Uzbekistan, was also quoted as saying by the Turkish media that the SCO’s 2023 meeting in India will be a venue to discuss this prospect further.

Keep reading​

list of 4 itemslist 1 of 4

Turkey offers to mediate in Ukraine nuclear plant standoff

list 2 of 4

Turkey says concerns over US sanctions warning ‘meaningless’

list 3 of 4

Erdogan agrees to NATO expansion at Madrid summit

list 4 of 4

Turkey resumes gas exploration in the eastern Mediterranean

end of list
China, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Russia, Tajikistan, Pakistan, India and Uzbekistan are the full members of the of the political, economic, and security organisation.
Afghanistan, Belarus, Iran, and Mongolia are SCO observer countries, while Armenia, Azerbaijan, Cambodia, Nepal, Sri Lanka and Turkey are the bloc’s dialogue partners.
“Our ties with these countries will be moved to a much different position,” Erdogan told reporters on Saturday.
When asked by reporters if he meant Turkey would seek to become a member of the organisation, the president said: “Of course, that’s the target.”

The SCO is not seen as an alternative to NATO, a military alliance with collective defence responsibilities under Article 5 of its founding treaty, which considers an armed attack against one or more members to be considered “an attack against all”.

Mensur Akgun, a professor of international relations, told Al Jazeera that the SCO is an hybrid bloc that seeks to prevent a vacuum in Central and South Asia through cooperation.
“It aims to increase dialogue and cooperation, solve problems among its members when needed and stand in solidarity with one another against interventions in the region by outside powers,” he said, adding that the SCO is closer to the model of the European Union than to NATO.
“An organisation that has arch-rivals India and Pakistan under its umbrella would not be able to have automatic military interdependence like NATO has,” Akgun said.

Sign up for Al Jazeera​

Week in the Middle East​

Catch up on our coverage of the region, all in one place.


right-mark-icon.3a446adc.svg
Please check your email to confirm your subscription
By signing up, you agree to our Privacy Policy
Akgun also said that growing political and economic ties between Turkey and Russia in recent years contributed to Erdogan’s remarks on SCO membership, especially considering Turkey’s often tense relations with Western powers.
Turkey bought Russia’s S-400 defence systems, which prompted US sanctions in addition to Turkey’s removal from a US-led programme developing F-35 fighter jets. Russia is also building Turkey’s first nuclear power plant and the two countries signed an economic cooperation deal in August.
Even though Turkey and Russia backed opposing sides in Syria’s war, the two countries have largely coordinated closely during the conflict.

The Turkish government has also taken a balanced stance over Moscow’s February invasion of Ukraine. It has provided Ukraine with arms, in particular with drones, but it has not imposed sanctions on Russia and criticised what it calls Western policies “based on provocations” towards Moscow.
Ankara has tried to act as a mediator between Russia and Ukraine since the beginning of the conflict and helped broker an agreement in July for Ukrainian grain ships to sail to outside markets.

Strained ties with the West​

Galip Dalay, a nonresident senior fellow at the Middle East Council on Global Affairs, said that Erdogan’s remarks on SCO membership stem from Ankara’s tensions with the West.
“Whenever there is discontent with the West – in particular, with the US [over] the perception that Turkey is treated unfairly – the idea of alternatives come up,” he told Al Jazeera.
“And because of that Ankara currently believes Turkey’s interests are better served by a balancing act between different centres of powers – meaning China, Russia and the West,” Dalay said.

Ankara has also been at odds with the US and certain EU member states over their support for Syrian Kurdish fighters who allied with the West in the fight against ISIL (ISIS) in the war-torn country.
Turkey considers the Syrian Kurdish People’s Protection Units (YPG), the main part of the anti-ISIL alliance, to be an extension of the outlawed Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK), which has been fighting against the Turkish state for decades.
Erdogan threatened to block Sweden and Finland’s NATO bids over what he said was their support for these groups, but lifted his opposition after a meeting with US President Joe Biden in June.
Following the move, Biden expressed support for sales of F-16 jets to Turkey – warplanes currently in use and inferior to the F-35s in development. However, he needs the approval of the US Congress for the move.
In July, the US House of Representatives approved an amendment creating a new hurdle for Biden’s plan to sell F-16s to Turkey, imposing strict conditions to any sales.

Erdogan said last week that his government might consider other options if the US is unable to fulfil its promise to provide the jets.
Recently, escalating tensions in the Mediterranean Sea between NATO members Turkey and Greece have also prompted the EU and the US to condemn Turkey.
Ankara and Athens are at odds over an array of issues such as overflights, the status of islands between the two countries, maritime boundaries and hydrocarbon resources.
However, Akgun believes that Turkey is unlikely to gain SCO membership for several reasons, considering the bloc’s structure and purposes.
“Turkey’s membership to the SCO does not seem possible as a NATO member and an EU candidate, but also because it is currently geographically and politically irrelevant to the SCO’s purposes of existence,” Akgun said.

Source: Al Jazeera
 
Don't think it makes any sense for Turkey, to get into SCO. They will only upset US even more
 
Don't think it makes any sense for Turkey, to get into SCO. They will only upset US even more
Yes but Turkey had tried for EU membership for a very long time.

It is unfair to Turkey to wait for so long for EU membership lol.
 
Yes but Turkey had tried for EU membership for a very long time.

It is unfair to Turkey to wait for so long for EU membership lol.
That maybe, but geographically they won't get any special benefit by joining SCO. They already have good relations with Russia, and am not sure of their relations with China (which I feel are not that high economically or defense wise).

The current members if you see, have a geographical proximity more or less.

I can't comment on Turkey's accession to EU (and if its fair or unfair about them being not allowed till now), but SCO is not a alternative for EU. Economically they will gain more by joining EU. SCO will never have EU like structure
 
Don't think it makes any sense for Turkey, to get into SCO. They will only upset US even more

The US nowadays only gets upset. No worries pajeet. Turkey will handle it.

Yes but Turkey had tried for EU membership for a very long time.

It is unfair to Turkey to wait for so long for EU membership lol.

Turkey will never be allowed to enter the EU. You and I already know the reason.
 
This has been claimed a million times, I doubt it's authenticity.

Thr SCO is an anti-terror alliance, while the EU is an economic union. The two are fundamental different.
 
This has been claimed a million times, I doubt it's authenticity.

Thr SCO is an anti-terror alliance, while the EU is an economic union. The two are fundamental different.
Yes, Sir, but according to wikipedia:
1689185437252.png


1689185466323.png

1689185501283.png


There is Economic Cooperation in SCO and China wants a FTA in SCO.

Regards.

This has been claimed a million times, I doubt it's authenticity.

Thr SCO is an anti-terror alliance, while the EU is an economic union. The two are fundamental different.
Yes but a reputable news agency like Al Jazeera is reporting it, lol.
 
Yes, Sir, but according to wikipedia:
View attachment 938609

View attachment 938610
View attachment 938611

There is Economic Cooperation in SCO and China wants a FTA in SCO.

Regards.


Yes but a reputable news agency like Al Jazeera is reporting it, lol.
Regardless, the FTA is still a long way off, and economic cooperation is basic at best.

Also, it really doesn't matter who's reporting it, this is unlikely to happen. The EU is still Turkey's most reliable trading partner.
 
Not in a million years. I'd rather bow down before the EU and accept every single condition than get in an alliance with the Chinese.
but thats the the problem, for these racist regimes of EU, they see turkey as asian muslim horde and make execuses like we dont want muslim invasion or terrorist or economic migrants.
 

Pakistan Affairs Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom