5 Ways to deal with Indian Trolls on PDF

[waz]

Oh poor Thing, you have no clue how PDF makes money?

Indian presence brings heavy troll traffic from Pakistan >> heavy traffic and some level of positive chinese views >> attract monetary gain (bribe in the form of gifts and shopping coupons from the Chinese) >> Keep up good work for one year and give partial access to the Chinese members to push Chinese narrative you will get foreign monetary gain in your account directly no questions asked.

Well, you ban Indian the wheel breaks. 2 weeks later Pakistanis feed on Pakistanis, being already a failed state you won't have anything much to discuss anyway so the kaboom on the traffic. Do you think the webmaster is stupid to cut his own bread and butter for the likes of a few immature manchildren?

Well, there are skeletons in the closet that you ordinary folks are not aware of including the mods mostly. Next time try questioning why they are ordered to give a free hand to the Chinese by the Admin?

Now that you know what is happening most likely ill be banned and the comment deleted so better take a screenshot when you can. Adios

@KAL-EL @Striver77 @Bengal71 @Protest_again @Zapper

Oh keep quiet would you! Failed state this, we Indians are so important, we make you so much money, bribes from Chinese etc etc . Just utter rubbish.

The site is self sufficient from Pakistani traffic alone. PDF stats below.

Here is how India's supreme website on Indian military affairs does bharat rakshak.

I suggest you go there to boost your terrible stats.

 

[Baibars_1260]

Agreed.

And there is an even more strident "Jai Jai Shree Ram" followed after "Jai Shree Ram" and an Indian will be just pretending if he or she doesn't get the significance especially in these days.

Lastly, were you intending to mean the Abhinav Bharat group instead of Akshay Bharat ?

Yes, it's Abhinav Bharat. Thanks for the correction.
The trolls are from there as well.

The more strident version is "Jai 'Jai Shree Ram' " which means hailing
the slogan and the ideology behind it . Note that I inserted single colons after the first "Jai" which implies the second statement. This is a parody of the traditional practice in Sanskrit where there is a double "Shri" ( meaning Sir or Respected). So the words are juxtaposed as "Shri 'Shri .....' " denoting a religious ceremony or event.

 

[HostileInsurgent]

@jamahir @xeuss @KedarT @rishav @lightoftruth @Buddhistforlife

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Last narrative I heard is that any one who is NOT a RSS, VHP Bajrang Dal, Akshay Bharat member is NOT a proud Hindu .
The ancient secular greeting
"Jaisiya Ram" is replaced by the strident "Jai Shree Ram " . The defence of that slogan should be an eye opener for the mods ( @waz )
Which is my answer to @KedarT when my post was criticized that I was bracketing all Indian PDF members as Hindutvavadis

I stand by my OP.

So if " Jai Shee Ram " is allowed with dreams if hoisting it on Islamabad ( was it hoisted on Dhaka ) then should we shout "Allah Hu Akbar " here ?
What next Har Har Mahadev and
"Ya Ali " ?
Is that what we must allow this forum to degenerate to?
Then how about going below the belt with choice " BC ", "MC " , " B k L " ? A common language we ALL understand.

@masterchief_mirza @PanzerKiel
@Vortex @User @ARMalik

Jai Siya Ram is spoken in Uttar Pradesh, you’re just trying to abuse our Dharma so better stop it.

you don't even give a voice to your own minority citizens

We don’t slap blasphemy and hang our minorities for that, and “Islamic” Republic of Pakistan should not preach secularism to India.

 

[Unite & Defend]

TO ALL PAKISTANIS THAT ARE NOT YET MEMBERS OF PDF, BUT HAVE BEEN LURKING SHOULD CONSIDER JOINING AND HAVE YOUR SAY!

FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT!

PAKISTAN NEEDS YOU!

 

[Baibars_1260]

Jai Siya Ram is spoken in Uttar Pradesh, you’re just trying to abuse our Dharma so better stop it.

Tell that to the Marines.

When was Jai Shree Ram ever used before the Ram Janam Bhumi Babri Masjid movement prior to 1989? ...

Abusing YOUR Dharma ?
Are you the spokesperson for 1.3 billion Hindus ?

Better stop it ? Whom are you threatening?

Go and tell that to your wretched minorities cowering in their filthy ghettos.

Go and protest in front of the BBC .
( Link )
Jai Shri Ram: The Hindu chant that became a murder cry

• 10 July 2019
• 
  
• India

In many parts of India, Hindus often invoke the popular god Ram's name as a greeting. But in recent years, Hindu lynch mobs have turned Ram's name into a murder cry, writes the BBC's Geeta Pandey in Delhi.

Last month, a video that went viral on social media showed a terrified Muslim man tied to a pole being assaulted by a lynch mob made up of Hindu men in the eastern state of Jharkhand.

In the video, 24-year old Tabrez Ansari is seen pleading for his life, blood and tears streaming down his face.

His attackers force him to repeatedly chant "Jai Shri Ram", which translates from Hindi to "hail Lord Ram" or "victory to Lord Ram".

Mr Ansari does as told, and when the mob is finished with him, he is handed over to the police.

The police lock him up and his family is not allowed to see him. He dies four days later from injuries sustained during the attack.

Mr Ansari is not the only one to have been singled out in this manner. June was a particularly bloody month for Indian Muslims, who were targeted in several such attacks.

• Arrests over lynching of India Muslim man
• Is India descending into mob rule?

In Barpeta district in the north-eastern state of Assam, a group of young Muslim men were assaulted and then made to chant slogans like "Jai Shri Ram", "Bharat Mata ki Jai" (long live Mother India) and "Pakistan murdabad" (death to Pakistan).

In the commercial capital Mumbai, a 25-year-old Muslim taxi driver was abused, beaten up and told to chant "Jai Shri Ram" by a group of men. Faizal Usman Khan said he was attacked when his taxi broke down and he was trying to fix it. His attackers fled after a passenger called the police.
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[Bambi]

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You say this as if Muslims never engage in crimes, should I remind you of the Bangalore riots last year when a muskim guy posted an objectionable pic of our goddess and a Hindu boy belonging to the so called Dalit community responded with a Charlie Hebdo cartoon, a horde of muslim mob chanting Allahu Akbar started rioting in Bangalore, bur ed cars, and etc and for propaganda created a fake human chain to protect a nearby temple and recorded a video and shamelessly or unknowingly spoke “bhai hogaya ab facebook pe daalde jaldi se” before ending the video recording.

Or should I remind you the Sarai Kale Khan violence in new delhi because a muslim girl married a hindu boy, a boy in bangalore had a muslim friend who was a girl was killed and thrown into a canal, or delhi’s rahul who was chopped to pieces by a muslim girl’s family because he used to talk to her. Or should I remind of the muslims in India working in restaurants spitting on rotis and when arrested and asked why you do so, their reply would be “mujhe kafir pasand nahi”.

Or the name changing to marry non muslim girls, force them to convert and then give them talaq also called as Love Jihad by Kerala High Court, or the killing of non muslim women in India by muslim men if they refuse to marry them.


When you filter out the other side of the story to present a particular version of the story, it is called propaganda.

Pls stop your mindless chartering you are engaging with a _____ who has full hate of India and a certain religion and will stop at nothing to demean it as we are an enemy country no more needs to said here a Link

For your amusement this is interesting 19470826

 

[Baibars_1260]

TO ALL PAKISTANIS THAT ARE NOT YET MEMBERS OF PDF, BUT HAVE BEEN LURKING SHOULD CONSIDER JOINING AND HAVE YOUR SAY!

FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT!

PAKISTAN NEEDS YOU!

Yes, the fight has to be fought in the virtual space with as much vigor as on our eastern border.
For every 155 mm shell lobbed at our women and children we reply in kind.
But a nation is not defeated only on the battlefield.
A nation can be defeated by false propaganda alone by simply projecting a superiority of race, ideology, intellect , economy and military power that the nation simply gives in. Czechoslovakia fell to Nazi Germany without a shot simply because the Czechs were so
overawed with Nazi Germany thaf it broke up and fell in 1938 with no military opposition. In reality the Czech military and economic capabilities was an even match for Germany.

Our enemy knows they can't fight a nuclear war with us, Unlike Czechoslovakia in 1938, Pakistan is a nuclear power. By a false propaganda and with the help of traitors the Hindutva Nazis hope to
repeat a Czechoslovakia here .
We CAN stop them.
Learn Hindi, or one South Indian language, preferably Telugu, and follow the media to know what the enemy is thinking,,

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Pls stop your mindless chartering you are engaging with a _____ who has full hate of India and a certain religion and will stop at nothing to demean it as we are an enemy country no more needs to said here a Link

For your amusement this is interesting 19470826

Why don't you put me on your ignore list ? Will save you the trouble of looking for icons .

From my records , You got banned once isn't it ?
Fill in the blanks in your post ( if you dare )
Would love to see you with the
"BANNED" banner beside your name again,

 

[Bambi]

Yes, the fight has to be fought in the virtual space with as much vigor as on our eastern border.
For every 155 mm shell lobbed at our women and children we reply in kind.
But a nation is not defeated only on the battlefield.
A nation can be defeated by false propaganda alone by simply projecting a superiority of race, ideology, intellect , economy and military power that the nation simply gives in. Czechoslovakia fell to Nazi Germany without a shot simply because the Czechs were so
overawed with Nazi Germany thaf it broke up and fell in 1938 with no military opposition. In reality the Czech military and economic capabilities was an even match for Germany.

Our enemy knows they can't fight a nuclear war with us, Unlike Czechoslovakia in 1938, Pakistan is a nuclear power. By a false propaganda and with the help of traitors the Hindutva Nazis hope to
repeat a Czechoslovakia here .
We CAN stop them.
Learn Hindi, or one South Indian language, preferably Telugu, and follow the media to know what the enemy is thinking,,


Why don't you put me on your ignore list ? Will save you the trouble of looking for icons .

From my records , You got banned once isn't it ?
Fill in the blanks in your post ( if you dare )
Would love to see you with the
"BANNED" banner beside your name again,

Your records don't mean nothing
You got a warning on 27 Jan
For spamming then
i dare to do many things first will be this. )݊x2ƭ

 

[KedarT]

Last narrative I heard is that any one who is NOT a RSS, VHP Bajrang Dal, Akshay Bharat member is NOT a proud Hindu .
The ancient secular greeting
"Jaisiya Ram" is replaced by the strident "Jai Shree Ram " . The defence of that slogan should be an eye opener for the mods ( @waz )
Which is my answer to @KedarT when my post was criticized that I was bracketing all Indian PDF members as Hindutvavadis

I stand by my OP.

'Jai Shree Ram' simply means 'Glory to Lord Ram' nothing else. Now, it being misused currently in communal issues doesn't mean the slogan itself is communal. So a Hindu saying 'Jai Shree Ram' doesn't make him communal nor does it make him a member of VHP, RSS, Bajrang Dal, etc.
However, it's more of a North Indian slogan and in my state Har Har Mahadev or Jai Bhavani Jai Shivaji is more popular but it doesn't mean people don't use Jai Shree Ram over here.
With respect to Jai Siya Ram, that too is more of a North Indian thing.

With regards to saying it on a forum, I'll agree it's uncalled for.

So if " Jai Shee Ram " is allowed with dreams if hoisting it on Islamabad ( was it hoisted on Dhaka ) then should we shout "Allah Hu Akbar " here ?

I have seen people saying 'Allah Hu Akbar' on this forum.

 

[Invicta]

THank you.... Please let us add to it Chinese ones as well.

We need to clean up this forum of both of them.

Good luck with that, its never happening, certain sections of this forum are so far up China's behind they will never see sense.

 

[Arsalan345]

Who is banned? All Pakistanis and Chinese members are not Banned, Pakistani members don’t post that much on D.F.I but Chinese members on Indian Defence Forum post a lot.

Isn’t strategic frontier dead? D.F.I is a lot more active.

It is not Bajrang Dal or VHP flag, and they don’t have any registered trade mark over Jai Shree Ram. All Hindus proudly say it irrespective of Political beliefs.

they don't allow to speak. if you defend your country, you will be banned. look at you guys. free here. i mean look at us and look at you.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

5 Ways to deal with Indian Trolls on PDF
Part 1 of 2

Presence of Indian Trolls
The presence of Indian Trolls on PDF , and other forums is a common nuisance but there are ways to deal effectively with them other than outright banning.
Before we discuss my suggestions on how to deal with them let's first discuss the objectives of the Indian Trolls and why they are on Pakistani forums and not elsewhere in such numbers.
Fact: The Chinese, Bangladeshi, Sri Lankan, and Arab English language forums have a far smaller presence of Indian Trolls.

Why are they here ?
Not a single Indian PDF forum members is the least bit interested in a dialogue or any kind of civil discourse with Pakistanis. These Indian Trolls are part of the RSS VHP IT cell, and are thorough paid professionals, with excellent English language and social media skills. These Hindutva Trolls are engaged in the most sophisticated game of psychological warfare ever initiated in recent history matched only by the sophisticated German Nazi Propaganda machine established in the 1930s in a pre-internet age . The initial object is to humiliate, embarrass, shame, confuse, Pakistanis by manipulated propaganda and sow discord, emphasizing on linguistic, ethnic differences. The ultimate object is to establish completely the concept of the superiority of the "Hindutva" ideology based on concocted ancient mythology, and exaggerated current military and economic power. The average demoralized Pakistani must be made to accept the futility of opposing the aggression against his nation and accept his inferiority by technology, education, religion, race and culture to his Hindutva overlords. A demoralized population is a pre-requisite to a successful military conquest and occupation. The battle on the social media and on forums like these is just one aspect of the larger religious campaign being waged by Hindutva fascists. The other battles are of course the ritual communal pogroms of Indian Muslims, killing of Pakistani civilians by shelling , gunning down Bangladeshi civilians by sniping, with no consequences.
It is possible that some of the Hindutva Indian PDF Trolls may have actually participated in communal pogroms. In a different avatar, on other social media sites mostly in Hindi, Gujarati, and Marathi, Hindutva trolls openly boast their "score". The PDF posts are simply a battle by other means.

Their methods
The game is to first start by posting innocuous posts, on "affinity", such as language, music, culture, food, dress, etc. Once the bonafides of the member have been established the posts are then cleverly switched to propagating religious culture, which has no connection to Pakistan. Temple architecture, ancient dance forms, religious music. This is to bring a sense of awe and "shame" to Pakistanis by showing how superior ancient India was.
Message 1: Pakistanis or Muslims should be ashamed of their past for abandoning and
rejecting such a beautiful heritage.
Message 2 : Pakistanis and Muslims were Hindus once and must revert to becoming
Hindus of whatever caste or status is determined for them by their
soon-to-be victorious overlords.

Then the gloves are off. Threads are deliberately started to highlight India's military might, space programs, nuclear might, stock market etc. Also started are threads highlighting the "1000 year victory" , " Don't forget 1971 ". "300 killed in Surgical strikes etc. "
The third and final message :

Message 3 :

Resistance is futile. Pakistan has suffered a string of consecutive military
defeats at the hands of Hindus and India. Pakistan is an illegal, artificial and economically
unviable state that Is militarily too weak to sustain an assault by India. In order to avoid
annihilation Pakistan must first surrender Azad Kashmir to India and subsequently
completely relinquish the rest of it's territory to India by disarming and surrendering .
Pakistan must merge back into India, and its population must either reconvert to the
Sanatan Dharma and get it "due" place in the caste hierarchy or be annihilated.

The Pavlovian Reflex:
The Hindutva IT professionals have an advisory board of trained psychologists who know what Pavlovian Reflex to generate by starting a thread or diverting a topic . So diverting a topic based off a comment ( example : 1971 war ) is sure to generate a heated response.
The object of the Pavlovian Reflex is to divert anything that brings the least amount of national pride amongst Pakistanis. This could be as remote as a successful completion of a stretch of a highway in the mountains of North Punjab. The post could be derailed by "Don't forget 1971... we nearly captured that area ). Every discussion can be derailed by a provocative post and these invariably are.

( To be continued Part 2 )

That is why I proposed that ALL indians and ANYONE else who supports them and their views should be PERMANENTLY banned from PDF. We should have 0 contact with them.


PS I agree with 99% of what you say apart from the excellent "English and IT skills" of indian trolls. They severely lack that as well as lacking average intelligence and common sense.

 

[Paro_Peagus]

Oh keep quiet would you! Failed state this, we Indians are so important, we make you so much money, bribes from Chinese etc etc . Just utter rubbish.

The site is self sufficient from Pakistani traffic alone. PDF stats below.

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Here is how India's supreme website on Indian military affairs does bharat rakshak.

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I suggest you go there to boost your terrible stats.

Well I adore your naive opinion. But any way this scheme of pushing chinese narrative isn’t limited to nationality or so called defensive forums. It stands for all forms of social influencing like reddit, discord channels, YouTube channels with considerable traffic. for god sake even the new place you a mod at. I know because I have seen it first hand. You dont know because your just a mod in you free time. Im done here anyway cya.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

seems accurate assessment by initial poster

 

[KedarT]

Likewise "Jaisiya Ram" is an ancient traditional form of greeting somewhat like "Ram Ram " in Haryana and Rajasthan.

And also in UP and Bihar like @HostileInsurgent mentioned.

"Jai Shree Ram " is a political concoction backing a fascist agenda
akin to " Seig Heil " for Nazis or "God wills it " used by the crusaders.

I already explained that people nowadays using it in communal issues doesn't mean the slogan itself is communal. Many people might use it in religious ceremonies as well. Comparing it with non-religious Seig Heil which can be easily replaced is incorrect.

Question for you:
The Indian Prime Minister traditionally ends the Indian independence day speech from the Red Fort with " Jai Hind " .
When will that slogan be replaced with " Jai Shree Ram"?

You don't need to worry, it won't be replaced. Jai Hind, Bharat Mata ki Jai, etc are here to stay.